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Hi Dionne

Read on this site somewhere the other day that GR had lost/removed somones entire thread!!

Might be a good idea to print off your entire thread for your records and also maybe save it electronically, that way if the worse was to happen, you could just copy and paste it back in. It would be awful to lose this thread til you have managed to close it yourself.

Take care

Nicki

Hi Deb

What a wonderful ending to you search.I am so pleased that you have had such great sucsess.
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I know that my father can request records on his sisters and this is something that we are going to do.But as you can see there is so much going on in this story at the moment and with so many things still to be sorted.The sisters are very much on top of the list. I also have to prepare my father as I know that he is the one that has to make the first contact with social services.At the moment I dont think he is 100% ready to do this.It seems every few weeks I am giving him more information on the family that he never knew he had.

Thankyou for your wishes
Dionne
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Thinking of you Dionne, Everything Crossed,

Selena

Hi Dionne,

I've just read through your thread from page one and can't believe the similarity to my own search!

My maternal grandmother left her first born with relatives, her second born (my mother) with strangers in North Wales and her 2 youngest were adopted.

I managed to trace the first born and he and my mother were reunited last year after 67 years. As siblings, they were able to access the adoption records of the younger 2 and also the court records with my grandmother's original statements regarding the adoptions.

We've managed to contact the younger siblings and are now in constant contact.

What you will need to do is contact the Social Services in the district that the adoptions took place. Your father, as the sibling, will be the only person who can access these records. There shouldn't be any cost involved (there wasn't for us) as most local councils now have government support for tracing adoptees.

I wish you all the best in your search.




Deb:)

Hi Diane

Thankyou for your posting. I am going to read this again tomorrow when I am less tired. I to think I have to go through everything all over again as there is so much information and things can get quite confuseing.I do know that Edwins sisters seemed to settle near Clacton but I also take your point on board about the London children being sent to Clacton.
I am still greatful for any information that I can get.
Many thanks
Dionne
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Hi Dionne,

I've finally gone back and read this from page 1, and I wondered if you exhausted all the information you wanted from the orphanage at Clacton?

Unfortunately looking on SEAX, the Essex Record Office index, they only have building plans. But I then found a thread on rootsweb via google, and the entries in the census list had all the children on a page as born in London, which implies perhaps that your father was sent there from London, not because of family ties with the Clacton area.

I'm sure there must be more history on this if you are interested. There appears to be an orphanage taken over by Barnado's in 1947, and I can't think that there were two? Also the orphanage was evacuated in WW2 and the girls went to Gloucestershire under the care of John Groom who had set up the orphanage, but I think your father would have been there later?

Good luck.

Thanks Malcolm

Hi Dionne.

Will email you later with info.

Malcolm.

Thankyou for your support everyone.
I sent all the details of today so fingers crossed.
Angela I have sent you a PM.
Have a good weekend.
Dionne
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Dionne

Fantastic news about the help from the Museum. Fingers and toes crossed for you.

Nicki

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Dionne, I started to read your thread as I caught sight of the mention of the Army Personnel Centre at Kentigern House which is where I work. several hours and now cold feet and hands later I came to the end of the thread, My what a journey you have had.
Can I just say that there will be a little delay in Disclosures getting back to you as they are very busy answering lots of queries from people like yourself. Also have you considered getting in touch with the Army Medals Office which is at Innsworth, I can give you the address for that if you PM me.
Even today children might not be entered on a service person's record if there were no monetry reason for doing so. Also records have always been subject to the soldier reporting the matter or the clerk updating the record.
I found one piece of information very interesting from his record when it says he was removed from the QM Dept for misconduct. Was there any record of a charge on his record?
Thank you for a fantastic read. I have always known that folks on here were great but this thread has just confirmed everything that I thought.

Wow Dionne, not only have you got the most kindest helpful people here, it shows there are still some left elsewhere.

Good Luck

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That's great Dionne
Hope you get some result's

I check this thread every day to see if there is any updates.

good luck
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Ah bless you Ann.
Thankyou.

Good news Dionne - hope it leads to more information for you (and us!). I did start to look at the medal rolls for the regiment but there were so many - absolutely loads!!! that I had to give up.

Thankyou for your information Brenda.

I spoke to the South African embassy and without an area of birth in the country they cannot issue a certificate.
Dionne
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Good evening everyoone.

I might have had a break through today. I called the
Army Medical Services Museum that Nicola so kindly posted details on. I spoke to a really helpful gentleman in the research department for over half an hour and explained the Livermore story and the need to know where Edwin was stationed in South Africa.

I explained about finding no death certificate for him in this Country and the need for the birth certificate of Dorothea.Also who Dorotheas mother was.

He explained that soldiers were moved all over South Africa.If Edwin had been an officer then there would have been records on him.But Edwin was only a corporal. I read as much information from Edwins Army records that I could understand. There is a section on the records about medals received but it only uses abbreviations so was hard to understand.

He was so interested in my story and asked that I send copies of Edwins service records directly to him and any other information that I might have. He wants to personally go through the records and will do some research for me.He wants to help me as much as he can.

I have spent a couple of hours writting a letter with all the information that has been gathered.I have copied records and and a few certificates.Everything is now ready to be posted first thing tomorrow morning.

So fingers crossed we might just get a result from this.
Dionne
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Hi Dionne.

Have you tried the Salvation Army? They use to help with tracing people some years ago as a friend of mine was very lucky with there help. It is worth asking them, but I not sure what they do now.

poached this from another thread on todays Records:

"West Country Lass
Today at 09:32

Not sure if the below is of any help to you.

South Africa:


The Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths
Private Bag X114
Pretoria
0001

The Registrar of Births, Marriages and Deaths
Department of Home Affairs
Civitas Building
Cnr Struben & Andries Streets
Pretoria

Tel: 012 324 1860
Fax: 012 324 1121

There are often delays in the issue of South African certificates. The British High Commission cannot take responsibility for these. Also, due to possible errors in manual transcription, we might need to see a photocopy of the original vault copy held by the Registrar’s Office.

Last updated January 2004

This is from the British High Commision website.

www.britishhighcommission.gov.uk "

Wondered if this could be of any use.

Brenda