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Brenda

Thankyou for the further information that you have supplied. It looks very interesting and I cant wait to receive the copy of my fathers birth certificate.Hopefully all will be relealed there. I will keep you posted.
many thanks
Dionne

Perhaps this may come in useful for future reference. Could this be the death of Herbert J Sloper that Dorothea married. If so, he was a good deal older than her.

Herbert J Sloper age 68 (born 1880)
Lambeth
4th qtr 1948
vol 5c page 1177

Just found another one!

Herbert J Sloper age 81 ( born 1886 )
Newport
4th qtr 1967
vol 8c page 220

Brenda

Hello again.

Moody Blue posted a message on 25/9 at 18.31

Arther Ernist Knight died 2000 Worthing.

On further investigation this couldnot be the same Knight that my grandmother married. My parents met
my grandmother in the late 1970's. Arther Knight had died before my parents met my grandmother.They beleive he died in the middle to late 1970's.
can this information help?
Many thanks
Dionne

Again thanyou all for your help.

Brenda... The marriage betwwen my grandmother and Arther Knight is correct.
As for the daughter Dorothea M Livermore before my grandmother married Sloper I really dont know. Then there were two other daughters that might have been hers.It seems if my grandmother had all of these children she didnt bring the daughters up and only kept my father. But he eventually went into childrens homes.
I have ordered her marriage certificate so once that arrives hopefully it wil help solve this mystery. I am sure that we have the year of her birth correct as she was around six months older then my mothers father and he was born in 1909. The only problem now is trying to match her birth with her death records.
I will keep you posted and thankyou for your help.
regards
Dionne

Do you think that this person could be Dorothea's child before she married Mr Sloper - or is it just a coincidence?

Dorothea M Livermore mmn Livermore
Edmonton
2nd qtr 1928
gro ref: vol 3a pae 1018

Brenda

If she died in Denmead then the Droxford death must be the one as Denmead's in that district.

Name: Dorothea Maud Knight
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1909
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1998
Age at death (estimated): 88
Registration district: Droxford
Inferred County: Hampshire
Register number: 52C
Entry Number: 15

Rose

thankyou so much for all of your help.I am going to buy the marriage certificate of sloper/livermore as you have suggested and then try and take things from there.
I will keep you all posted.
Many thanks
Dionne

Kath, I should have said the only one with a death in 1996 and born in 1908

Brenda

Brenda,

There are 13 Dorothy Knight deaths in 1996, but only one in Hampshire which is registered in South East Hampshire district.

The birth year for this Dorothy is given as 1913 and I found a coresponding birth, which I have given to Dionne but I really thing she needs her father's birth certificate so she has the correct names for his parents before doing anything else.

Kath. x

KNIGHT, Dorothy Patricia 17 March 1908 Manchester 1996 September District No 0061G
Reg No G47B
Ent No 251
Dor 996

This is the only Dorothy death in 1996 birth 1908

There is this one in Portsmouth:

KNIGHT, Dorothy May 11 January 1913 Portsmouth 1999 April District No 4971B
Reg No B53A
Ent No 200
Dor 499

BUT - then there is this one in Droxford Hampshire

KNIGHT, Dorothea Maud 30 October 1909 Droxford 1998 April District No 4921
Reg No 52C
Ent No 015
Dor 498

cannot find corresponding births - could Dorothea have been the one to have been born in South Africa?
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marriage
Dorothea M Sloper ....Arthur Ernest Knight
Worthing, 3rd qtr 1971, gro ref: vol 5h page 1987

KNIGHT, Arthur Ernest born 28 December 1921 died Worthing 2000 April District No 7864B
Reg No 4B24C
Ent No 147
Dor 400

Brenda

Dorothea died in Denmead(near Portsmouth) Hampshire in sheltered housing. Or it would have been Queen Alexander Hospital Cosham Portsmouth. She wanted to be cremated in Worthing but I dont know if this wish was carried out.
Dionne

If I were you I would wait until you receive your father's birth certificate before doing anything else. That way you will have his father's full name and you can then decide whether the marriage you have been given is the right one (although I think it probably is).

Do you know where Dorothy/Dorothea died, as there are several Dorothy Knight deaths in 1996, but only one Dorothea Knight. They all seem to have different birth dates given to what you have (but that could be because the informant made a mistake (people's age or date of birth is often wrong on death certificates).

I would definitely wait for your father's birth certificate before progressing.

Kath. x

I am so sorry.You are all correct. I have just had confirmation that Dorothea was born in the month of March after all. My fathers memory of his mother are very 'sketchy' as he had very little contact with her.
Thankyou
Dionne

well i have looked at all qtrs from 1930 to end 1942 and those two girls are the only ones showing with mmn Livermore. No davd/Adam.

the only boy is your dad in 1942

Dorothea isnt registerd in the Oct-Dec qtr of 1908 would say that birth ref of mar 1908 more likely

Dorothea was born on the 31st October 1908
hope this helps
Dionne

well both girls are sloper with mothers maiden name of livermore

have searched the deaths from1934 - 1942 inc and not found any deaths for the girls names or a David/Adam

This could be Constance's birth?

Births Sep 1910 (98%)
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LIVERMORE Constance W. Ham 4a 392

Would this be Dorothea? Do you know where she was born?

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)

Livermore Dorothy Ethel M Braintree 4a 889

I would be pretty certain about the sisters, same father's name and same mother's maiden name.

Selena