Find Ancestors

Hi there Wayne

I would love to join you,lol.This search is so close to driving me to drink,lol.

There isnt really a great deal more to tell.I am still waiting for the marriage certificate of Constance(Dorotheas sister) to turn up.I want to see if the fathers details on her certificate are the same as Dorotheas.

I joined Ancestry24 a South African site and spent days searching all parish registers for possible births of Dorothea and her sister and marriages for Edwin. Again nothing has turned up. I looked in National Archives Army records.Two Livermores showed up but again they are not the Edwin Livermore I am loking for.

As I said in an earlier thread I think.I am beginning to wonder if an Edwin Livermore in the Army Royal Medical Corps did ever really exist or was it another one of Dorotheas stories??

I cant beleive that I have managed to trace the Sloper side of the family tree back to the 1600's for my father but the Livermore side stops at his grandfather.

So any ideas for other searches would be greatfully received.lol

Many Thanks
Dionne

Hey Dionne

I'm still sitting in the wings, awaiting my turn to help you.... !!!!

Could you do me a favour? Have you got a brief synopsis of where we are right now? Who we still need to find, or where you'd like to start looking next... i'm everso lost lol... and i have a few spare hour to spend with my bottle of Vodka & a hint of Coke!

Thankyou so much Ann and good luck.
Dionne

Let's hope this was one thing she told the truth about!

All I can do is look pre 1914, and 1914-1918 and hope he is there!

Hi Ann

Yes.lol.

But again if you have read this never ending thread you will see that Dorothea told many ' un truths '. We only have the information that she gave is which is not a great deal and what is on Certificates. It has her birth place as South Africa along with her sister. I have searched and searched and many members here have helped me but I find nothing.

I am beginning to wonder if Edwin Livermore was ever her real father.

Thanks
Dionne

So really he could have been in the Army either before WW1, during WW1 or both?

Hi Ann

Thankyou for your offer.I did a search at the National Archives and it found two Livermores. An Ernist Livermore and Edward Livermore.I paid the fee for the documents just to check them.They werenot the Lvermore that I am after.

The only information I have to go on is what was on Dorotheas marriage certificate that being.....

Edwin William Livermore (deceased)
Occupation Corporal Royal Army Medical Corps.

Dorotheas marriage took place in 1930 and she was 21 years old.

I will keep my fingers crossed that you have more luck then me in finding any details of him.

Thankyou
Dionne

Dionne

Would you like me to look for Edwin Livermores service records at Kew? Am I right in thinking that he would have been in the Army 1900 onwards??

Hello Dionne, thanks for keeping us updated. You could write a book on Dorothea (if that's her real name!).

Selena

Good morning everyone.

Brenda.. I have sent a message to the tree member regarding Frank asking if it is possible that we have a match.I am waiting to hear back from him.

I spent hours looking for possible children last night and it looks like Frank and Katherine didnt have children as I have not come across anything.

I had information today on my grandmothers will Dorothea. Again the plot thickens. Would you believe that there is no record of a will. Now I do know that she did have one when she was in contact with my father because she showed it to him. The will was also held at her bank.

Now I am thinking that perhaps when the contact stopped again between her and my father she decided to get rid of her assets before she died.If she did this then she wouldnt have needed a will would she. Am I right on this one?She was a very clever and by all accounts a 'sly' woman.

I am still waiting for the other certificates to arrive.Lets see what the postman brings tomorrow.

Dionne

Thankyou Brenda.

I will check it out.Still looking for children at the moment.lol

Dionne

This member has Frank Weeks b 1888 Lambeth in his tree - could it be the same one?

Frank 1888 Lambeth ....... Raymond

Brenda

Thankyou Brenda

I was checking the area to see if Erith was in the same district.I was going to reply to you but you beat me to it,lol.

Poor Katherine died quite young. I am on the hunt now for possible children.

Many thanks
Dionne

Dionne,

DARTFORD REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Kent.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Bexley; Darent Valley; Dartford; Dartford First; Dartford Second; Dartford & Farningham; ERITH; Farningham; Gravesend.
GRO volumes : V (1837-51); 2a (1852-1946); 5B (1946-65); 5F (1965-74).

Erith is under Dartford registration district

Brenda

Hi Brenda

Thanyou for the information.I dont think this can be the correct Katherine.

Her mothers name was Katherine Philips c1858
Father Henry Sloper 1858

On the 1901 cencus it shows Katherine as being born in Erith Kent.

Many thanks
Dionne

Births 4th qtr 1891
SLOPER Katherine Mary Dartford 2a 444

MARRIAGE
SLOPER Katherine M ..... Weeks Lambeth.1d 873 4 1920
WEEKS Frank W........ Sloper Lambeth.1d 873 4 1920

possible birth for Frank W Weeks:
Births 1st qtr 1889
Weeks Frank William Lambeth 1d 369

death
Frank William Weeks born Nov 1889 ?(could be Nov 1888 perhaps)
Bromley
3rd qtr 1970
vol 5a page 738

Death
Katherine M Weeks age 58
Bromley
4th qtr 1949
vol 5b page 139



Brenda

Hi Selena

Oh yes my head is spinning,lol
It seems one minute I get very close to solveing things and then I end up miles away again,lol.

i have ordered the certificate you have asked about along with quite a few others.I am hoping they turn up this week.

Edwin Livermore is an even bigger mystery.I have his birth and that is it.I dont have a clue as to who he married. There is a possible marriage that a member found and he would have been 17 at the date of marriage.But I really dont think that it is his. I have searched 24ancestry a South African site and I am unable to find anything on him there with the help of other members. I ordered Constance marriage certificate to see if her fathers details are the same as Dorotheas.I am still waiting for this to arrive.

Yes Herbert did move to newport in Wales.

I think you are up to date now.lol
Dionne

Just trying to keep up to date with this. Dionne, your head must be spinning!

Did you ever order this certificate?

Dorothea M Livermore mmn Livermore
Edmonton
2nd qtr 1928
gro ref: vol 3a pae 1018

Also who did Edwin Livermore marry?

Regards,

Selena

Is this the birth you found for Herbert's sister?

Births Dec 1882
Sloper Catherine Maud Greenwich 1d 1006

Only this marriage in Wales - so not sure (didn't Herbert go to Newport?)

Marriages Jun 1911

Sloper Catherine Pontypridd 11a 1002

I remember now, I found a birth for Constance 1910 and a Dorothy (not Dorothea) in 1908.

Hello

I have sent Joanne a letter in the hope that she might contact me.I am also hoping that some certificates turn up this week.
I also remeber that Herbert and Henry had a siser called Katherine. Apart from her birth and also being on the cencus with her brothers and parents, I have not been able to find any more information on her.I am still looking.

Dionne
x