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Hi checking to see if there is a update?

Cheers

Clare

on edit.... it been only 4 days since last reply but felt like ages to me! lol

dionne,

So we need...

Birth certs for:

Edwin junior, Edith Constance & Dorothea

Death cert for:

Edwin Senior


There is something i thought of. Maybe the SA embassy can help you out here.... were they born British subjects or were they born as SA? if it's the latter then how did they manage to come back and settle? Surely they would have had to take British nationality? maybe we can get some milage out of this? i would have thought that British subjects born abroad would be registered somewhere on records held by Britian? and if they were SA born by nationality there would be citizenship records somewhere. Personally seaking my father is German and my Nan would not let him marry my mum until he change to British Nationality, it was 1968 and she was in WW2, she said there was no way she'd have her son in law fighting against the country he lived in !! (she was a touch paranoid!) But there is a record of that i'll give him a call...

Now something weird i didn't know.... which might hinder us, i have left my bit above so people can see what i was always told. Even back in the '60's things were different, my dad said he never had to take Nationality in the end, when it came to doing it the official said all he needed to do was sign a affadavit. It transpires he was able to automatically take the nationality of his father, who was Scottish/British in which case going further backwards means the Livermore children porbably were able to do the same?

Now if anyone here knows how to search for German rellies... gimme a shout lol




Tracey x

I have the Army records of Edwin Senior(thankyou Ann) but they give little information.No wife or children listed and only states served in the Royal Army medical Corps and went to South Africa.No area.Without an area of the country we cant search any further.

I forgot to add that I dont have birth certificates for ....
Edwin Junior or Dorothea or their sister Edith Constance as it seems they were born in South Africa.
I have also not been able to find a death certificate for Edwin Senior or who he married if he ever did.

Because there is a strong South African link it looks like Edwin Junior and Dorothea were born there.Really dont know about the death of Edwin senior

Dionne
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Here are the Livermore certificates to date,

Possible brother to Dorothea.His marriage

EDWIN WILLIAM LIVERMORE
Married 24/10/1935 aged 24
to LEONORA ISABEL PITTUCK age 23
Hendon Middlesex
Edwin was a Leading Aircraftsman
Leonora was a servant.

EDWIN WILLIAM LIVERMORE SENIOR
DOB 17/05/1884
Maldon Essex
Father William Livermore
Mother Annie Livermore formerly Harvey

WILLIAM LIVERMORE(father to Edwin senior)
DOB 20/04/1862
Maldon Essex
Father Joseph Livermore
Mother Hannah Livermore formerly Freeman.
WILLIAM LIVERMORE& ANNIE HARVERY marriage
14/11/1883
Register office Maldon Essex
William was a courier
Annie no occupation.

WILLIAM LIVERMORE DEATH
11/02/1940
Colchester Essex
Aged 78

SARAH ANN LIVERMORE(wife of William) DEATH
15/12/1941
Colchester Essex
Aged 83

JOSEPH LIVERMORE marriage to Hannah Freeman
21/12/1844

POSSIBLE DEATH OF EDWIN LIVERMORE SENIOR
24/03/1953
AGED 68 IPSWICH
Tugboat owner
Informant D W Harris
Chief resident Officer.Brook House,Henley Rd, Ipswich

Myself and other members dont think that this Edwin is part of my fathers family tree.

I also have the two marriage certificates of Dorothea Livermore (my fathers mother) and her death certificate.
Plus the birth certificates of the two adopted girls(father Sloper)

This is my updated list.
Thanks everyone and have a good day.
Dionne
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Good afternoon everyone.

I am just sneaking in a quick message whilst it is quite at work.

This evening I will post a list of all certificates I have been able to obtain on the Livermores.

Selena...Thankyou for the idea I will check it out later.

Dionne
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Hi Dionne, have you ever had a look at a website rootsweb.com? They have message boards and trees etc that you can search by surname or location etc. I have made a couple of useful contacts there - its free as well.

Worth having a look to see if there are any matches or perhaps adding your own message to the Livermore or Sloper boards

Selena

Hi

What i mean by leaving a update message meaning u type out a full list of persons that u have found so far via certificate etc so that will help people knowing what u have found and what u have struggled with.

Hope this makes sense.

Clare(Clou in Brummie the new name is my xmas name)

Hi Dionne,

could you just run over where you are up to now and who you are still looking for. There are so many pages now it is hard to find lol.

My brickwall is going nowhere so I feel up to a challenge looking at someone elses.

Hi Dionne and everyone....
Please Dionne don't close the thread yet, I will miss my daily read and want desperately for you to find all the information on your family, particularly Dorothea's Mother.. Best wishes, Jennifer

Dionne,

What is a Postem?
A Postem is a short message that is attached to any entry in the FreeBMD database. The purpose of a Postem is to allow those searching the database to leave information about an entry, for example to leave additional details about the event. Postems are only for communication between those searching the database; in particular, no-one in the FreeBMD project will be reading the Postems so it is pointless putting comments or questions for the project in a Postem.

How do I leave a Postem?
Click on the Info button next to the entry and when the information is displayed click on the Add a postem link. This will take you to a page which will allow you to type in your Postem. Please make sure you have the Postem correct before you click on the Create button because once you have created the Postem it cannot be cancelled or changed.

Thankyou Wayne

Thankyou Kim

I will try that.I am greatful for any ideas.

Dionne
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Dionne,

I'm a transcriber on BMD, i'll ask the question...

Hi Dionne, just wanted you to know that I've been fascinated by this thread, it sure beats Coronation Street (on the telly as I type!!!) It might not apply but have you considered using Bloemfontain as a starting point for your SA service search? The reason I ask is that my step ggrandfather served there and I know there was a massive Brit contingent. You never know? Anyway, please don't close the thread, as others have already said, there must be places still left to look.........?
Good luck, Kim

Hi Nicola.

Very spooky indeed.

I have just looked at the Livermore family tree names and guess what? No Albert Edward or Dorothy listed. Sorry.

How do I go about postin messages on BMD.I have looked and dont know where to post.

Dionne
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Hi Dionne

Had to go to Taunton Crem today to lay flowers on my mum's and brother's grave. Directly behind their headstone is a joint Livermore one!! Spooky!!

As follows:

Albert Edward Livermore

Dorothy Livermore

Didnt have a pen with me so took a photo on my mobile to let you have the info, but I cant read it!!

Wonder if they are anything to do with you.

Nicki

Ive also been keeping up with your storyline and think you should keep the thread running,its a marvelous read, and should be made into a Film/TV Soap,Names welcome,,, BOB

Wow such a fantantic story.

Have read it every day checking for updates etc.

I agree with Wayne about putting notes on to BMD or even add a reply adding what certicates/matches u have found so far as this is deffo a long thread but very interesting one though!

Cheers

Clare

Ok everyone.

I have written a letter to the Army.I went to the site and they do have a history section and traceing relitives etc.I have added Edwins Army number and explained the situation and that I need to know the area of South Africa that he served in to enable me to find out what happened to him.There is a lady that I have been speaking to that is very good at researching british military history and soldiers that served in the country but without an area it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
I have written the letter as if it has come from my father as I think I might have more luck then as my father is his grandson.I am taking the letter round to my father tomorrow evening after work to get him to sign it for me.So I am hoping that fingers crossed we might just get a result from this.

Dionne
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Dionne

Agree with Ann & Selena, dont close the thread yet. It is intriguing and you have come so far so quickly, dont give up.

Nicki

I have an idea,

How about putting a note on every relavant BMD entry, for Births Deaths & Marriages?