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MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 21:33

Johns death?

Name: John Hillman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 71
District: Bedminster
County: Gloucestershire, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 524

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 21:34

Publican, living at Old House Inn, Bisley

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 21:34

ah no ....Publican in 1871

Grocer inn keeper in 1861

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 21:36

Guess what Sylvia?

this might not be the right original family! lol

(I suspect it is though)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 21:39

1861 Census


Name: John Hillman
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Bisley, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Bisley
Ecclesiastical parish: Chalford
County/Island: Gloucestershire

Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Bisley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Hillman 50 b. Bisley
John Hillman 50 Grocer & Publican


Publick House, Old House, Bisley


Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 21:39

well, we don't really know that we have the right family in the first place, do we?!

I'm havving fun though!!!




Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 21:41

a John Hillma married in 1857 registered in Stroud .



and not to a Jane!



.......... wonder if it's the same one?????????



Marriages Mar 1857 (98%)
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Butcher Eliza Stroud 6a 391
Hillman John Stroud 6a 391
Messenger William Stroud 6a 391
Skinner Eliza Stroud 6a 391
WHITING WILLIAM Stroud 6a 391



Sylvia

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 21:41

If I was Hazel, I would buy that birth cert for Walter 1840.

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 21:57

From the top....

Elizabeth is with John and the kids in 1841?

Elizabeth died in 1843?

John Married Harriet in 1844?

Harriet is on her own (married) with the same kids in 1851?

Then we find him "with" Jane in the pub in 1861/71?

Maybe Jane was Eliza Jane Skinner/Butcher?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 22:00

BUT I cannot find ANY of the kids after 1851


..............why??

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 22:04

Sylvia

have you looked for deaths? (shudders)
Your quicker than me lol

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 22:07

we need Hazel to be sure we are following the right family!!!



... and no I haven't looked for deaths!



Here goes!

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 22:10

Death

: Walter Hillman
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Stroud (1837 Onw)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 186

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 22:13

Name: George Hillman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 72
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 56

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 22:13

hmmmmmmmmmmmm,

a number of Hillman deaths registered in Stroud between 1841 and 1871.

I've picked out ones with the names that we have been working with. Unfortuantely, these registrations don't give the ages or any other ID


Deaths Dec 1846 (>99%)

HILLMAN George Stroud __ 325


Deaths Jun 1852 (>99%)

HILLMAN Julia Stroud 6a 155
Hillman Julia Stroud 6a 185


Deaths Dec 1852 (>99%)

Hillman Walter Stroud 6a 186


Deaths Dec 1856 (>99%)

HILLMAN Harriet Stroud 6a 165
Hillman Harriet Stroud 6a 16[35]


Deaths Jun 1864 (>99%)

Hillman Harriet Stroud 6a 191


Deaths Mar 1867 (>99%)

Hillman Harriet 66 Stroud 6a 213





Don't know that there is any help there!!!


Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 22:14

Gotta go,



I'll look back alter and see if Hazel has returned, or if you have managed to find anything else.



Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ..........if George is still alive in 1906, why can't I find him????



Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 22:17

how about this from the Mormon site???


1881 Census

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph HILLMAN Head M Male 43 Bisley, Gloucester, England Engine Fitter At Shop
Susan HILLMAN Wife M Female 36 M Hampton, Gloucester, England Laundress
John HILLMAN Son U Male 18 M Hampton, Gloucester, England Gardener (Dom) Servant
Henry HILLMAN Son Male 16 M Hampton, Gloucester, England ... (Fuller) At Cloth Works
Joseph HILLMAN Son Male 13 Worcester, Worcester, England Stick Turner
Walter HILLMAN Son Male 11 M Hampton, Gloucester, England Scholar
Eliza HILLMAN Daur Female 5 M Hampton, Gloucester, England Scholar
Charles HILLMAN Son Male 8 M Hampton, Gloucester, England Scholar
Tom HILLMAN Son Daur Male 2 M Hampton, Gloucester, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling Burley
Census Place Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341615
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2549 / 93
Page Number 10

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 15 Sep 2007 22:18

Death
Name: Julia Hillman
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stroud (1837 Onw)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 185

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 22:19

or this .......


...... although it is a SUBMITTED record


WALTER HILLMAN Pedigree
Male


Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 OCT 1840 Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN HILLMAN Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

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Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.



Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 15 Sep 2007 22:22

parent John Hillman and Elizabeth


England

4. JOSEPH HILLMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 FEB 1836 Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
SUBMITTED record


5. JOSEPH HILLMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 FEB 1837 Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
EXTRACTED record


6. WALTER HILLMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 OCT 1840 Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
SUBMITTED Record


7. JULIA HILLMAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAR 1839 Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
SUBMITTED Record



Sylvia