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Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:11

OMD's

See you were drawn to this look up

Ian...Just looking through the qtrs for William & Dorothy's marriage

ceri

ceri Report 5 Sep 2007 16:13

The William Hale aged 10 i believe is my relation, however i am not sure that it is the correct Miles family because of her age (it would mean that she was 6 when she had William!!
I have been told by someone on here that thinks they are related to me that Uiley was a local Gypsy girl and William was well known for his bare knuckle fighting in the locals etc

Thanks
Ian

Jane

Jane Report 5 Sep 2007 16:15

Ian,
This 1891 family are the same ones that Reggie found in 1901.

Elijah Miles died apr qtr 1913 Ware 3a 621.

Julie, I've looked from 1920 through 1927...but none there...which possibly was too early to look.

Ian/Ceri...no worries about us looking..we enjoy it x
Is that baby on the way yet?

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:18

Ian

Got any idea when William & Dorothy's 1st child was born

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:19

Ian

Is it this one thats here birth

Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
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Squires Dorothy Annie Saffron W. 4a 719

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:20

Jane

I've just done 1920 to 26 lol, thought she would of been married by then thou

ceri

ceri Report 5 Sep 2007 16:21

Thank you both

Just thinking maybe i have the wrong birth record for William then!
My one had a sister named Ada born 1896 in B.Stortford, then 3 brothers:
Ronald Hale (My late grandad) born 1919 B.Stortford - died 2007!
Percy Hale born 1911 B.Stortford
and Horace Hale born 1907 B.Stortford

I guess that truthly, of the above siblings i am only certain of My grandfathers dates etc the rest i have worked with via record searches and relations

Thanks
Ian

Jane

Jane Report 5 Sep 2007 16:23

How sure are you that the baby was born in 1891?

I seriously think we have found the right family. There are no other births for a Uiley/Ulaly Miles apart from the 1885 one...and no sign of her apart from the one we have here.

How accurate is the information you have been given by the person on here?
I've been told lots of things and found them to be fanciful thinking :0))

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:26

Now im confused

Theres a 23 year gap between Ada & Ronald

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:28

Is Ronalds parents William & Dorothy

ceri

ceri Report 5 Sep 2007 16:29

Jane

Thats why i dont think they are the correct Miles family (unless i have my dates completely wrong)!

Dorothy and Williams son was named Patrick Hale he later married someone by the name of Wendy (maiden name unknown) Unfortunately, i dont know dates etc
Sorry not much help am i
Ceri

Jane

Jane Report 5 Sep 2007 16:30

Ronald Miles born july qtr 1919 Bishops Stortford mmn Miles.

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:30

Ignore me i just read it properly

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:31

Ceri

Please forgive me i have been calling you Ian

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:33

I recon the Hale and Miles marriage is right and the Miles census info if right.

I think the William she marries is not the one born 1891

ceri

ceri Report 5 Sep 2007 16:35

Jane
Our messages may have crossed, the only real thing i guess i am certain about is my grandad (Ronald Hale) he was definately born 1919 and died 2007, the names of his siblings etc are also correct!

In view o this i think it is fair to say that i have been given incorrect information previously and that Elice/Uiley (or whatever else she is written as) is her.

Ronald Hale is the son of William Hale and Uiley Miles! His brother (William Hale)married Dorothy Squires.

Sorry
Ian

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:39

Ian

Did someone tell you that Ada and Ronald were siblings

Jane

Jane Report 5 Sep 2007 16:43

Right,
We're definate on Ronald and his Mother being Uiley Miles.
He was born 1919...which is quite a while after the 1902 marriage...but feasible.

I have no idea what I'm thinking now...so I'm off for a bit ...men must be fed :0)))
Will pop back later and may have had a brainwave by then.

Ceri, hope you're not too uncomfy x

Julie, I'll catch up soon xx

Ceri, dont worry :0)))...We just need to find a William in a shorter timespan. Must go...will be back x

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:43

Ive now look 1915 to 1919 and can't see a marriage

Julie

Julie Report 5 Sep 2007 16:46

Jane

Just C&P this

My one had a sister named Ada born 1896 in B.Stortford, then 3 brothers:
Ronald Hale (My late grandad) born 1919 B.Stortford - died 2007!
Percy Hale born 1911 B.Stortford
and Horace Hale born 1907 B.Stortford


Maybe Ada and William are sibling to each other but not with the others i think

I must go to my 2 keep looking at me lol