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hello
i am looking for Samuel Portingale's parents. samuel was born about 1780c (can u go back this far) he was born in Frome,Somerset, England. ive been trying to get past this point for so long and cant find a thing.
your help would be very much appreciated.
many thanks
*Beth*

Karen
Lawrence junior i will not be able to find on a census as he was born after 1891 census was done and unfortunately i dont have access to 1901 census.

However this is possibily Lawrence senior, what do you think?
1881 census - household transcription
Person: JOHNSON, Lawrence A
Address: ?, Normanton


Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born

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JOHNSON, Alfred L Head Married M 38 Railway Agent Carrier
Thirsk, Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Louisa C Wife Married F 36
Soham, Cambridgeshire
JOHNSON, Lawrence A Son Single M 11 Scholar
Normanton,Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Charles Son Single M 10 Scholar
Normanton, Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Herbert Son Single M 8 Scholar
Normanton, Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Percival E Son Single M 5
Normanton, Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Maude L Daughter Single F 1
Normanton, Yorkshire

If the above is him, this would appear to be him in 1891.
1891 census - household transcription
Person: JOHNSON, Lawrence
Address: South Milford, South Milford


Name Relationship to
Head of H'hold Condition Sex Age Profession/Occupation
Disability Where Born Standard
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BEDFORD, Joseph Head Married M 34 Railway Assistant Station Master Monk Fryston, Yorkshire
BEDFORD, Mary Wife Married F 31
Leeds, Yorkshire
BEDFORD, Mary J Daughter F 12 Scholar
Milford Junction, Yorkshire
BEDFORD, Alice M Daughter F 10 Scholar
Milford Junction, Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Lawrence Lodger Single M 21 Railway Porter Birkin, Yorkshire, Normanton

Hope this helps
Ceri

Hi my name is Sarah and I'm searching my family tree for my grandparents at the moment as they are unable to do it themselves. I'm 16 years old and I'm no good at this, so please can you help me?

There seems to be one family member who is very intreaguing but we know little about him. I began a thread about him under the title 'Ancestor jacamo Merani.'

We know he moved from Italy some tiem in the 1800's and we know he found himself in Liverpool. It would be great if you could help me out as I barely know what I'm doing.

Thanks, Sarah.


By the way, congratulations with your baby :)

Hi Ian could you please look for a marriage certificate of my mam and dads.My dads name was James Martin Loughran born 23rd november 1909 in Middlesborough and my mums name was Sylvia Ward born 12th Jan 1917.
If this will help my dads fathers name was also James Loughran and his Mothers name was Margaret Dooley,
and my mothers parents were called Samual Ward and Frances Ward (formerly Thompson),i know its a lot to ask but i am realy stuck with setting my tree up i keep getting it all wrong,any help would be very welcome.Thank you from Joyce.

Hi Ceri,

sorry my message was a bit confusing.
my great grandfather was lawrence arthur johnson born 1897.married in 1919 to amy arnold in isleworth and he worked as a carpenter.
his father was a lawrence arthur johnson born roughly 1870? he also was a carpenter.i have no idea where born though.

sorry for the confusion

thanks karen

Hi Ceri,
Sorry it took me a while to ge back to you.
I dont think that can be my Elizabeth now as she was a Thwaite minus the "s" and her first child turned out to be a daughter!! No sons before 1919.
Thank you anyway for your time...I know how busy you are xxxx

THANK YOU FOR THE INFO IAN I HAVE SENT FOR THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE LIKE YOU SUGESTED I JUST HOPE HER FATHERS NAME WILL BE ON IT I HAVE A WEDDING PHOTO WITH ALL THESE RELATIVES IN BUT ON ALICES SIDE IT IS ALL WOMEN .IF JOHN IS HER FATHER THEN SHE HAD SIBLINGS .I WAS ALWAYS LED TO BELIEVE HER TO BE AN ONLY CHILD I AM WONDERING IF MAYBE THIS JOHN WAS HER UNCLE .THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN BRENDA

Hi Ceri
Thank you for replying.
Hope you are resting!!
Di

Hi Faith
I do not have the USA census so will be unable to help you with your look up.
Sorry
Ceri

Hi Ceri
Thank you for looking up John Charles Longstaff for me but this is not him as his mum is Barbara Stogdale. I appreciate you looking though.
Wonder if you could do a census search in USA for a Thomas Stogdale who went to live in Illinois Chicago in 1923. He sailed on the ship Cedric which left Liverpool. He was 40 then but don't know where he went and whether he stayed in America. He was married to Mary but don't think she went with him. Any info as to his whereabouts would be great. My John Charles apparently was going to stay with Thomas (his Uncle) when he went in 1946 so I know he was alive then.
Thank you again for the kind offer.
Di
Thanks

Hi Karen
You have stated that they are both named the same is this correct?
You have also said that Lawrence's father was born about 1870! However you have said that Lawrence himself was a carpenter in 1898! At this point in time his father would have only been 28, which is not old enough to have a child working as a capenter!?
Therefore can you confirm the details again, also could you provide approximate yrs of birth for them both etc.
Thanks
Ceri

Faith
This is his birth record:
John C Longstaff, born Middlebro', mothers maiden name is Conolly, vol 9d, page 899 3rd qtr 1929

My Passenger lists only go up to 1929 at present so have been unable to find him on them.

Let me know what else you would like
Ceri

hi,
are you still looking up census?

if so can you look up a lawrence arthur johnson,worked as a carpenter.in middlesex area 1898 his father was a lawrence arthur johnson also.born roughly1870 i think

thanks
karen

Hi Ceri
Hope you've got your feet up!
Thanks for the kind offer for look ups.
I don't have access to Ancestry USA but know details of the passenger I'm looking for.
Could you do a look up please for John Charles Longstaff who travelled from Liverpool on the ship Empire MacCallum to New York in ?1946. He was about 17 years old. Any more info about him would be appreciated.
Di

Thanks Ceri,

Info on the Povey family was great

Regards

Jean

Hi Jean
This look like his marriage record, but you didnt give a maiden name for Mary so would need to confirm.
Name: Thomas Povey
Spouses Name: Mary Jones or Johnson
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Runcorn
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19

This is a possibilty of thomas and mary on the 1861 census.
1861 census
Person: POVEY, Thomas
Address: Grindley Brook, Whitchurch
POVEY, Thomas Head Married M 33 Agricultural Labourer, Malpas, Cheshire
POVEY, Mary Wife Married F 29 Marbury, Cheshire
POVEY, Eliza Daughter F 7 Scholar
Whitechurch, Shropshire
POVEY, Ann Daughter F 5 Scholar
Whitechurch, Shropshire
POVEY, William Son M 0 (1M) Whitechurch, Shropshire
RG number:RG09 Piece:1889 Folio:14 Page:21
Registration District:Whitchurch
Sub District:1 Whitchurch
EnumerationDistrict:1


There are two possibilities for Thomas on 1841 census, as follows
1841 census - household transcription
Person: POVEY, Thomas
Address: Carden Stone House, Tilston, Carden
POVEY, John M 50 Cheshire
POVEY, Sarah F 50 Cheshire
POVEY, Thomas M 20 Cheshire
POVEY, George M 18 Cheshire
POVEY, Job M 12 Cheshire
POVEY, Sarah F 5 Cheshire
RG number:HO107 Piece:89 Folio:28/4 Page:2
Registration District:Boughton, Great
Sub District:Tattenhall

or
1841 census
Person: POVEY, Thomas
Address: Hurst Farm, Budworth, Great, Appleton
ROBINSON, William M 30 Cheshire
ROBINSON, Elizabeth F 25 Cheshire
ROBINSON, George M 2 Cheshire
POVEY, Thomas M 20 Cheshire
DAWSON, Thomas M 15 Cheshire
CASH, Ellen F 14
RG number:HO107 Piece:92 Folio:14/9 Page:13
Registration District:Runcorn
Sub District:Budworth, Great

Ceri

Thanks for the look-up Ceri but I have my Matthew Little in Ettrick Selkirk in 1841 and again in 1861 so doubt he could be in Northumberland in 1851 though you never know.Problem is the name is very common.
Best wishes,
Joan

Hi Ceri, Asking for your help again please.

I have James Povey bc 1870 Wem Shropshire, his parents are Thomas bc 1826 Holart Cheshire and Mary bc 1838 Wem Shropshire.
That is the only info i have on them. Anything you can find on Thomas and/or Mary before James was born would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Regards

Jean

Hi Ceri,

Thank you for the info on the White family.
Regards

Jean

Ceri

Thank you very much this is a great help and lots to digest. I am new to all this having just lost all my grandparents i realised we didn't really know much about our family name, it's origin or anything to be honest. I'm sure i'll be in touch again for further assistance once I've slotted all this in.

Thanks again
Toni