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Hi Ian
can you do lookup for passenger lists from 1910 to USA
Mary Gallagher (nee Keegan) dob 1886
born Houghton le Spring,Co. Durham England
and James Valentine Gallagher,her husband. she would have been about 26.
It is thought they went to live in Maryland? or Springfield? and its possible that they left england because James was "in trouble"??
I know its not much to go on but I am desperate to find some idea of what happened to them.
thanks catherine

Julie
It is possible, as relatives did tend to live extremeley close to each other, bear in mind though that the 1841 census is not very helpful for us as it doesnt provide much info, the only way to be sure would be to make a note of them all somewhere until you can confirm there relationships via certificates etc.
I had about 3 generations all living next door to each other at one point (i couldnt live that close to my family, i dont think!!)

Frances in 1841 was old enough to have been working and probably would have been!! I would say that the census i posted is maybe the household she worked for ie a cook, servant or similar and her family lived in the same road as she worked (they may have been friends of the family that had given her the job) Definately worth digging some more
Ceri

Ceri

Hi Ceri

Looking at that 1841 census there are some Moodys living in the same street/lane, but there only seems to be one house number ! i can see a charles and jane moody, do you think there is a contection? it could be her parents.

Jules

Hi Ceri

Well that certainly looks like their marriage, and her in the 1841 census, could be grandparents on there as well ! and cousins ! I will have to dig deeper.

Your a star
cheers

Jules

Cheryl
You have asked me to look up your grt grandparents Edmund Martin and Dorothy Ward.
However you have not stated an approximate year of birth/marriage/death for them or any further details. They are both quite common names and therefore there are hundreds of results, can you provide any further details, even if just the county that im expecting to find them in would help.
Thanks
Ceri

Yvonne
You didnt provide an estimate of what age i was expecting him to be, but i found the following from Glasgow to Canada

Name: Leslie MCKENNA
Date of departure: 10 May 1923
Port of departure: Glasgow
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada
Age: 25
Marital Status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Labourer
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 13
Ship: MARBURN
Official Number: 111248
Master's name: S C Clews
Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific
Where bound: Montreal, Canada
Square feet: 13720
Registered tonnage: 6631
Passengers on voyage: 409

The following are the only other Leslie Mckenna's on the passenger lists.

MCKENNA Leslie 6 M 1920 Liverpool USA Philadelphia
MCKENNA Leslie 16 M 1924 London Australia Sydney
MCKENNA Leslie 20 M 1928 Greenock Canada Quebec
MCKENNA Leslie F 19 M 1928 Liverpool USA New York
MCKENNA Leslie 14 M 1928 Liverpool USA New York


Ceri

Julie
If that was her in marriage cert then this is her on 1841 census, i dont know what the other members of household relationships are as they didnt give these in 1841!

1841 census - household transcription
Person: MOODY, Frances
Address: Church Lane, St Sidwell, Exeter
FLOOD, Sarah F 78 Devon VIEW
FLOOD, Elizth F 35 Devon VIEW
STONE, Frances F 20 Devon VIEW
MOODY, Frances F 19 Devon VIEW
ALFORD, Frances F 6 Devon VIEW
RG number:HO107 Piece:268 Folio:12 Page:19

Registration District:Exeter
Sub District:St Sidwell

Civil Parish:
St Sidwell Municipal Borough:
Exeter Address:
Church Lane, St Sidwell, Exeter County:
Devonshire

Ceri

Julie
This is a possible marriage for Henry and Frances Webber (the birth cert for one of the children will confirm it is them, as it will give Frances's maiden name! But this would make one assume that she could be Frances MOODY.

Marriages Sep 1844
MOODY Frances Exeter 10 131
MULLINS Henry Exeter 10 131
PRING Ann Exeter 10 131
STADDON Elizabeth Exeter 10 131
WALROND Benjamin Exeter 10 131
WEBBER Henry Exeter 10 131

Ceri

Brenda sorry i only have access to English records, sorry
Ceri

hi ian thank you for your help,it is a passenger list ,name of leslie mckenna ,from scotland,around 1910,,to usa or canada,dont know if alone or a wife also.thank you again.yvonne

Cheers ceri
That is great info, that is them without a doubt, I will get the birth cers to find out what fanny's maiden name was. my mum thinks your womderful ha ha, she loves all this finding out about her family and being 83 loves all the bits of scandel, she is ringing her brothers every nite with all the info.

Thanks very very much,
I am sure I will speak to you soon

Jules

Hi Ceri,

Would you be able to look up my great grandparents for me at all? My grandfather, Edmund Martin was born on 31 May 1935 to Edmund Martin and Dorothy Martin, formerly Ward. He was born at 147a Mill Road, Everton. They were ordinarily resident at 39 Harrogate Street, Everton. My great grandfather's occupation was Corporation Labourer.

Many thanks if you can help.

Kind regards

Cheryl

Hi Ceri,
Thanks for trying.I'll look for something English for you to find for me sometime.
Bye,
Joan

Hi Ceri,

What can I say, wow, thankyou so much for finding all that information for me. Very very much appreciated.

Thanks again for your help, Emma

Emma

Daniels Christening (this shows his parents) and his marriage
DANIEL SMY
Christening: 05 FEB 1837 Chillesford, Suffolk, England
Parents: Father: JOHN SMY, Mother: LUCY
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C131821 1837 0918530 Film NONE Sheet: 00

DANIEL SMY
Spouse: MARY ANN WARNER
Marriage: 27 APR 1857 Chillesford, Suffolk, England
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M132022 1857 0952451 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

This is possibly Herbert's birth
Births Jun 1859
SMY Herbert Plomesgate 4a 642

MaryAnn's birth (daughter)
Births Jun 1861
SMY Mary Ann Plomesgate 4a 666

Frederic's birth
Births Dec 1863
SMY Frederic Plomesgate 4a 609

Alfred's birth
Births Mar 1866
SMY Alfred Plomesgate 4a 688

George's birth
Births Jun 1870
Smy George Plomesgate 4a 691

Daniel's birth (son's)
Births Jun 1868
SMY Daniel Plomesgate 4a 656

Arthur's birth
Births Sep 1874
Smy Arthur Plomesgate 4a 692

Then this is Walter (the grandson living with them) birth
Births Dec 1885
Smy Walter Plomesgate 4a 822

Hope this helps
Ceri

Emma

This is them on 1891 census (i dont have access to 1901, sorry)

1891 census - household transcription
Person: SMY, Daniel
Address: Ferry House, Ferry Road, Sudbourne, Woodbridge
SMY, Daniel Head Married M 55 Farm Labourer
Chillesford, Suffolk VIEW VIEW
SMY, Mary Ann Wife Married F 59
Earl Soham, Suffolk VIEW VIEW
SMY, Daniel Son Single M 22 Farm Labourer
Sudbourne, Suffolk VIEW VIEW
SMY, Arthur Son Single M 16 Farm Labourer
Sudbourne, Suffolk VIEW VIEW
SMY, Walter Grandson M 5
Sudbourne, Suffolk VIEW VIEW
RG number:RG12 Piece:1480 Folio:142 Page:11

Registration District:Plomesgate
Sub District:Orford
EnumerationDistrict:14
Ecclesiastical Parish:Sudbourne

Civil Parish:Sudbourne
Municipal Borough:Woodbridge
Address:Ferry House, Ferry Road, Sudbourne, Woodbridge County:Suffolk

This is them on the 1871 census
1871 census - household transcription
Person: SMY, Daniel
Address: Ferry Lane, Sudbourne
SMY, Daniel Head M 36 Suffolk VIEW
SMY, Mary Ann Wife F 40 Suffolk VIEW
SMY, Herbet Son M 11 Suffolk VIEW
SMY, Mary Ann Daughter F 9 Suffolk VIEW
SMY, Frederic Son M 7 Suffolk VIEW
SMY, Alfred Son M 5 Suffolk VIEW
SMY, Samuel Son M 3 Suffolk VIEW
SMY, George Son M 1 Suffolk VIEW
RG number:RG10 Piece:1764 Folio:79 Page:7

Registration District:Plomesgate
Sub District:Orford
EnumerationDistrict:8

Civil Parish:Sudbourne
Address:Ferry Lane, Sudbourne
County:Suffolk

Them on 1861 census
1861 census - household transcription
Person: SMY, Daniel
Address: Fore Street, Orford
SMY, Daniel Head Married M 24 Farm Labourer
Chillesford, Suffolk
SMY, Ann Wife F 26 Earl Soham, Suffolk
SMY, Herbert Son M 1 Orford, Suffolk

RG number:RG09 Piece:1175 Folio:36 Page:3

Registration District:Plomesgate
Sub District:4 Orford
EnumerationDistrict:4

Civil Parish:Orford
Address:Fore Street, Orford
County:Suffolk

Just looking for BMD records for you.

Ceri

Julie
If you agree that the 1871 census i posted is them, then this is them on the 1861 census, still at the same address!!

1861 census - household transcription
Person: WEBBER, Frances
Address: New Quay Road, Wolborough, Newton Abbot
WEBBER, Henry Head Married M 38 ... Maker
Exeter, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Frances Wife Married F 38
Exeter, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Henry Son M 13 Scholar
Exeter, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Charlotte Daughter F 11 Scholar
Newton Abbot, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Frances Daughter F 9 Scholar
Exeter, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Emma Daughter F 7 Scholar
Newton Abbot, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Charles Son M 4 Scholar
Newton Abbot, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Annie Daughter F 2
Newton Abbot, Devon VIEW VIEW
WEBBER, Thomas Son M 0 (10M)
Newton Abbot, Devon VIEW VIEW
ROSBROOK, Samuel Boarder Unmarried M 21 Engine Cleaner ...Suffolk VIEW VIEW
RG number:RG09 Piece:1409 Folio:70 Page:45

Registration District:Newton Abbot
Sub District:5 Newton Abbot
EnumerationDistrict:18

Civil Parish:Wolborough
Address:New Quay Road, Wolborough, Newton Abbot County:Devonshire

As i explained the best bet to confirm that this is definately them would be to obtain Emma or Frank's birth certificates.

Ceri

Julie
On second thoughts and looking at the following census again, it is just shouting at me that this is them!! I done a search and it is the only one where ages fit in, place of birth fits in and it has an Emma and Frank Webber on the others have one or the other. It is still only a possibility but definately good possibility (even Frances is sometimes called Fanny)
It is even the same address (house) that they are in on the 1881 census!!!

1871 census - household transcription
Person: WEBBER, Frances
Address: Quay Road, Wolborough, Newton Abbot
WEBBER, Henry Head M 48 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Frances Wife F 48 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Charlotte Daughter F 23 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Emma Daughter F 16 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Charles Son M 14 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Annie Daughter F 12 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Torm Son M 10 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Sarah Daughter F 8 Devon VIEW
WEBBER, Frank Son M 6 Devon VIEW
RG number:RG10 Piece:2084 Folio:55 Page:16

Registration District:Newton Abbot
Sub District:Newton Abbot
EnumerationDistrict:18

Civil Parish:Wolborough
Address:Quay Road, Wolborough, Newton Abbot County:Devonshire

What do you think?
Ceri

Julie
I take it this is the 1881 census you have for her

1881 census - household transcription
Person: WEBBER, Fanny
Address: 22 Quay Ter, Wolborough With Newton Abbot
WEBBER, Fanny Head Widow F 56 Lodging House Keeper Exeter, Devon
WEBBER, Emma Daughter Single F 25 Annuitant
Newton Abbot, Devon
WEBBER, Frank Son Single M 15 Brass Finisher Assistant Great Western Rlway Works ((Apprentice)) Newton Abbot, Devon
WALDEMAN, Violet Dagmar Nurse Child Single F 0 CheltenhamGloucestershire
CORNALL, Thomas Boarder Single M 18 Engine Cleaner On Rlway (Gwr) Torquay, Devon

RG number:RG11 Piece:2165 Folio:81 Page:25
Registration District:Newton Abbot
Sub District:Newton Abbot

Civil Parish:Wolborough With Newton Abbot
Address:22 Quay Ter, Wolborough With Newton Abbot
County:Devonshire

The following is a possible birth for Emma Webber
Name: Emma Webber
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newton Abbot
County: Devon
Volume: 5b, Page: 119

And Frank's birth
Name: Frank Webber
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newton Abbot
County: Devon
Volume: 5b Page: 145

Unfortunately, i have been unable to find Fanny Webber on any other census or a birth/marriage or death record for her.
Could it be possible that Fanny was not her real name (maybe a second name or not at all) Also do you know what her maiden name was?

If you obtain the actual birth certificate for either Frank or Emma Webber this will confirm both parents full names etc.

Ceri

Hi Ceri,

Hope you can help me.

I'm looking for a family in the 1861, 1871, 1891 and 1901 census if possible please.

Daniel Smy, born around 1837 in Chillesford, Suffolk.
Maryann Smy, born around 1836 in Earl Soham/Redgrave, Suffolk.
They also had a son called Frederick who was born 1863 in Sudbourne, suffolk.

Many thanks, Emma