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24 Aug 2007 11:22 |
Hi Ever Sorry bout delay but i have been trying to check all records for you, I cannot find a Mary Ellen Maggs on the passenger lists, or a Mary Ellen Thomson (other than one, travelling with a Joseph but this was in 1919, so at that point she wouldnt have been Thomson)
I have also looked at the deaths overseas records from 1993 onwards and have nothing for her in the name of Thomson up to and including 2005, she could of remarried maybe or long shot i know but still alive she would be 104yrs!!
Have you tried contacting the nursing home she was in? Thanks Ceri
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24 Aug 2007 11:30 |
Colin
With regards to your query regarding death certs being given for victims of war, i really dont know the answer for sure, however you will note that from the information on the war death i found earlier that i was able to find an index for them (vol no and page no.) whether this would allow you to obtain the actual certificate or whether it would be for further information surrounding his death i dont know.
But i would say that i am under the impression that with the death index you would be able to apply for the death cert (Maybe from the army direct)
Thanks Ceri
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24 Aug 2007 13:25 |
Hi Ian if poss could you please look up passenger list to canada from scotland. i am looking for George Winchester i believe he went around 1905.also his brother John he went around 1910 would like to know what ship they sailed on any help much appreciated. Barbara [holland].
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24 Aug 2007 13:30 |
Hi Judy
Here is his birth record. Name: Sydney Bullard Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: St Saviour Southwark County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 39
Here is his mariage record. Name: Sydney Bullard Year of Registration: 1901 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: St Saviour Southwark County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 155
This is him in 1881:
1881 census - household transcription Person: BULLARD, Sydney Address: 2 Elizabeth Cottage, St George The Martyr Southwark BULLARD, Frederick Head Married M 32 Basket Maker, Ware, Hertfordshire BULLARD, Anne Wife Married F 34 Wadesmill, Hertfordshire BULLARD, James Son Single M 11 Hoddonser, Hertfordshire BULLARD, Frederick Son Single M 9 Enfield, Middlesex BULLARD, Henry Son Single M 7 Southwark, Surrey BULLARD, Rosa Daughter Single F 3 Southwark, Surrey BULLARD, Sydney Son Single M 1 Southwark, Surrey RG number:RG11, Piece:524, Folio:21, Page:40 Registration District:St Saviour Southwark Sub District:Kent Road This is him in 1891: 1891 census - household transcription Person: BULLARD, Sydney Address: 10, New Church Road, Camberwell BULLARD, Annie Wife Married F 43 Wadesmill, Hertfordshire BULLARD, James Son Single M 21 Basket Maker Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire BULLARD, Frederick Son Single M 19 Basket Maker, Enfield, Hertfordshire BULLARD, Henry Son Single M 17 Blind Maker Walworth, London BULLARD, Rose Daughter F 14 Walworth, London BULLARD, Sydney Son M 11 Scholar Walworth, London BULLARD, Maud Daughter F 7 Scholar Walworth, London BULLARD, Nellie Daughter F 3 Walworth, London HAMILTON, William Boarder Single M 17 Basket Maker Camberwell, London RG number:RG12, Piece:488, Folio:51, Page:51 Registration District:Camberwell Sub District:St George EnumerationDistrict:12 Ecclesiastical Parish:St Georges
You will note that on the 1891 census his father Frederick has disappeared, and on the 1901 i cant seem to find him!! However it would appear that he volunteered for army duties in the first world war, i cannot confirm, whether this is definately him though without furthr clarification. Thanks Ceri
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24 Aug 2007 14:16 |
Hi Adrian
Found the following for you although you didnt say where in the country they were from so here's to guessing:
This is Jesse Birth (i checked 1844 - 1847) Name: Jesse Thorn Year of Registration: 1847 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Luton County: Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire Volume: 6 Page: 108
This is Job's birth Name: Job Thorn Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Leighton Buzzard County: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire Volume: 6 Page: 76
This is David's Birth Name: David Thorn Year of Registration: 1851 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Leighton Buzzard County: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire Volume: 6 Page: 89
Census results will follow. Ceri
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24 Aug 2007 14:18 |
Adrian Census results
I believe this to be Job and David on the 1861 Census 1861 census - household transcription Person: THORN, Job Address: Kings Hall, Clipperdown, Ivinghoe THORN, James Head Married M 55 Agricultural Labourer,Alloway Herefordshire THORN, Rebecca Wife Married F 44 Straw Plaiter Hareston, Herefordshire THORN, Job Son M 12 Agricultural Labourer Ringshall, Buckinghamshire THORN, David Son M 10 Agricultural Labourer Ringshall, Buckinghamshire THORN, Mary C Daughter F 2 Ringshall Buckinghamshire RG number: RG09 Piece:1008 Folio:27 Page:3 Registration District:Leighton Buzzard Sub District:3 Ivinghoe EnumerationDistrict:2
This 1871 Census for Job 1871 census - household transcription Person: THORN, Job Address: Horsendon Hill Rd, Greenford Magna APLIN, James Lodger M 21 Dorset THORN, Job Lodger M 20 Buckinghamshire RG number:RG10 Piece:1323 Folio:84 Page:10 Registration District:Brentford Sub District:Acton EnumerationDistrict:11 And this him on 1881 Census 1881 census - household transcription Person: THORN, Job Address: Ringshall The Row, Ivinghoe (Bucks) THORN, Job Head Married M 32 Bricklayers Lab Ivinghoe, Buckinghamshire THORN, Annie M Wife Married F 30 Bricklayers Lab Wife Ivinghoe, Buckinghamshire THORN, Arthur Son Single M 3 Ivinghoe, Buckinghamshire RG number:RG11 Piece:1644 Folio:23 Page:4 Registration District:Leighton Buzzard Sub District:Ivinghoe
And this him on 1891 Census. 1891 census - household transcription Person: THORN, Job Address: 23, Ringshall Road, Ivinghoe THORN, Job Head Married M 42 Bricklayers Labourer, Ringshall, Buckinghamshire THORN, Annes M Wife Married F 40 Ringshall, Buckinghamshire THORN, Arthur Son Single M 13 Scholar Ringshall, Buckinghamshire RG number:RG12 Piece:1267 Folio:20 Page:5 Registration District:Leighton Buzzard Sub District:Ivinghoe EnumerationDistrict:2 Ecclesiastical Parish:Ivinghoe
Ceri
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24 Aug 2007 14:35 |
Ian/Ceri Thank you very much for the time and effort you have put into this research for me, sorry for not putting the area which the family were from, was Aldbury, Herts mainly but also Bucks. Seems it's always different with parishes, districts, sub districts etc. Anyway you've given me plenty to look into, thanks again
Adrian
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24 Aug 2007 14:44 |
Hi Sarah,
This is his death record WRIGHT, Frederick Ernest 30 August 1931 Bexley 1991 June Volume No 11, Page No 430 Reg No 691
This is his birth Frederick E Wright, mothers maiden name =House, Born Brighton vol 2b page 256
I have found the following marriage, but cannot confirm that it is definately him, however if you obtain both his birth cert and the marriage cert you should be able to confirm this.
Frederick E Wright to Eileen Morgan @ Bristol in 1st Qtr 1948 - Vol 7b page 51 Hope this helps Ceri
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24 Aug 2007 14:52 |
Hi Mary Unfortunately i only have access to births from 1837, i know there are people in the records office board that do have access so maybe ask them. Sorry, thanks
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24 Aug 2007 15:04 |
Barbara,
How old were they do you know at all?
Anyway i have searched George Winchester to Canada, and the only one from Scotland is the following:
Name: George WINCHESTER Date of departure: 11 February 1910 Port of departure: Glasgow Passenger destination port: Saint John Nb,Canada Passenger destination: Saint John Nb, Canada Age: 49 Marital Status: Single Sex: Male Occupation: Cooper Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 8 The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - Jas WINCHESTER Page 1 of 8 View transcript Ship: CASSANDRA Official Number: 124130 Master's name: John Mitchell Steamship Line: Donaldson Where bound: Saint John Nb, Canada Square feet: 10545 Registered tonnage: 5228 Passengers on voyage: 174
However, you will see that at the time of sailing the above is aged 49 and the date of sailing was in Feb 1910.
As for John Winchester, i have found the following ones for John Winchester travelling to Canada!
WINCHESTER John 33 M 1906 Liverpool Canada Saint John Nb WINCHESTER John 36 M 1909 Glasgow Canada St Johns Nf WINCHESTER John Adult M 1910 Glasgow Canada Quebec WINCHESTER John L 26 M 1911 Liverpool Canada Quebec WINCHESTER John 20 M 1920 Glasgow Canada Quebec
You will see there are a couple travelling from Galsgow and they are all different ages, if you could advise more info i will be able to locate it for you. Thanks Ceri
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Camille
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24 Aug 2007 16:44 |
Hi again Ian /Ceri , may I have a search for census 1851 and 61 please?
Mary Alice or Alice Sumner, Ithink, according to the 1871 census she was born Newbury ,Berks. 1846. I have confirmation of her marriage 1869 in Mortimer, Berks. to George Rampton. I aso have Birth cert. for a Daughter , Emma Jane Sumner ...Born Rotherwick , Hants. 1866, she was born 3 years before Alice Sumner married. I only need to find, if possible, where she is on a census to trace her Parents and possible Siblings. Her Father's name on Marriage cert. states his name as Charles Sumner ( Ag. Lab.)
Many thanks Lulli x
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24 Aug 2007 17:10 |
Hi Ian, Thanks so much for looking for my Mary Ellen and Joseph. I'm afraid I don't know the name or whereabouts of the nursing home, anyhow I am just grateful you found the marriage deails for me. Ian is there any chance you could look up a WW1 soldier for me.......His name was Ralph Hartley (Private) 11585, 14th Bn., Royal Warwickshire Regiment, Died 25 October 1917 and is buried at Tyne Cot Memorial in Belgium. Killed I believe in action. He was born in 1893, England. I would love to know any information at all about him (my grandfather) was he injured, where did he live before he enlisted just anything would be great.
Thank you.. Kind regards
mary
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June
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24 Aug 2007 18:23 |
hi could you find out about stanley rothwell born 1910 all i know is my sister told me he was in the grenadier guards i have no other details of this thanks june
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24 Aug 2007 19:57 |
Hi June
This could be his birth record: Name: Stanley Rothwell Year of Registration: 1910 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Bolton County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 445
This looks like him on the army's roll of honor Name: ROTHWELL, Stanley Branch at death: Infantry Regiment, Corps etc.: The Lancashire Fusiliers Branch at 01/09/39: Infantry Regiment, Corps etc.: The Lancashire Fusiliers Last name: Rothwell First name(s): Stanley Initials: S Birthplace: Bolton Residence: Manchester Rank: J Lance-Corporal Number: 3449244 Date died: 04 December 1943 Theatre of war: United Kingdom
If so this is him Name: ROTHWELL, STANLEY Initials: S Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Lance Corporal Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers Secondary Regiment: Commando Secondary Unit Text: and No. 6 Date of Death: 04/12/1943 Service No: 3449244 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Clough Sec. 8. Row 4. Grave 56. Cemetery: PRESTWICH (ST. MARY)CHURCHYARD, UK
I searched marriage records and did not find him in years 1926 - 1930, so without going through every single record, i have not been succesful in locating his marriage.
Let me know what you think Ceri
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Louise
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24 Aug 2007 20:02 |
Hello Ian, Could you look for Alice Nuttall born 1854 in Atherton,Leigh.in the 1861 and possibly 1871 census. Many thanks Louise
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24 Aug 2007 20:56 |
Hi Lulli Sorry i have had no luck. Ceri
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David
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24 Aug 2007 21:19 |
he was married in nottingham 1932 could you find the marriage?? to confirm june
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24 Aug 2007 21:23 |
Hi Louise
This looks like her on 1871 census 1871 census - household transcription Person: NUTTALL, Alice Address: Cranmer Road, Lambeth RAMSEY, William Head M 31 Lancashire VIEW RAMSEY, Eliza Wife F 32 Staffordshire VIEW RAMSEY, William Son M 7 London VIEW RAMSEY, Eliza M Daughter F 6 London VIEW RAMSEY, James Barlow Son M 4 London VIEW RAMSEY, Dora Mary Daughter F 2 London VIEW RAMSEY, Isabel Daughter F 0 London VIEW RAMSEY, Isabella Sister F 19 Scotland VIEW NUTTALL, Alice Servant F 16 Surrey VIEW RG number:RG10 Piece:677 Folio:89 Page:2 Registration District:Lambeth Sub District:Kennington 2nd EnumerationDistrict:12
Do you know either of her parents names, or anyone living in the households name in 1861 (ie brothers or sisters etc) As there are about 100 results!!
Thanks Ceri
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Camille
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24 Aug 2007 21:23 |
Ian /Ceri, thanks for your time
Regsrds Lulli x
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24 Aug 2007 21:31 |
Hi David/June
You didnt say who you were talking about but i guess Stanley Rothwell, this is the only entry i found in 1932.
Stanley J Rothwell to Ivy Pinder @ Nottingham, 2nd Qtr 1932, vol 7b page 785
Thanks Ceri
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