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MARY, TRICIA AND ROSEMARY Ive had a good search and nothing Im afraid, sorry Debs

JACKIE this was all I could find and confirm SIMSON, William Marriage Wife: Sarah ELSON Marriage Date: 12 May 1793 Recorded in: North hyckham, Lincolnshire, England Source: FHL Film 1542194 Dates: 1792 - 1798 the nearest I could find to match William and area was SYMPSON, William Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Jul 1766 Recorded in: Bardney, Lincolnshire, England Father: Charles SYMPSON Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 989855 Dates: 1697 - 1876 sorry I cant help you further Debs

Thanks for the help on the SMITHS. Can you look further at Mary Ann HALE, christened 17 Jul 1842 recorded in Therfield Herts ? I think her mother was Jane Monks. I know she's the right Mary Ann Hale but always thought they came from Bedfordshire. Can you look up more info about mother and father John HALE for me ? Thanks

Hi Debbie Again, my thanks for looking - I think I'm going to give up on the Gloucs lot! I appreciate your taking the time to check. Rosemary

Hi DEBORAH could you please do a check on a ROWLAND JOHN NEW born 1883 wiltshire, would like to know if this is the family I want thanks ann

Hi Debs, Please could you try a birth for me ? Henry Marshall, born Croydon, Surrey about 1846. Father's name will hopefully be George. Thanks, Rick.

DEBORAH KNEEBONE sorry my discs only go up to 1906 Debs

MARY BROOKE bingo!!!! HALE, Mary Ann Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 17 Jul 1842 Recorded in: Therfield, Hertfordshire, England Father: John HALE Mother: Jane Source: FHL Film 1042055 Dates: 1841 - 1864 siblings HALE, Emma Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 14 Jul 1844 Recorded in: Therfield, Hertfordshire, England Father: John HALE Mother: Jane Source: FHL Film 1042055 Dates: 1841 - 1864 HALE, Arthur Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 16 Feb 1847 Recorded in: Therfield, Hertfordshire, England Father: John HALE Mother: Jane Source: FHL Film 1042055 Dates: 1841 - 1864 marriage of parents???? HALE, John Marriage Wife: Jane CHAPMAN Marriage Date: 5 Dec 1839 Recorded in: Kelshall, Hertfordshire, England Husband's Father: Samuel HALE Wife's Father: William CHAPMAN Source: FHL Film 1537828 Dates: 1837 - 1845 this was all there was Debs

RICK the only henry I could find in time frame and poss father as George was MARSHALL, Henry Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Apr 1843 Recorded in: Wivelsfield, Sussex, England Father: George MARSHALL Mother: Sarah Source: FHL Film 1067384 Dates: 1573 - 1881 Debs

MARIA sorry nothing for James Smith. What info do you have? Have found poss entry for father if correct SMITH, Ernest Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 28 Jan 1877 Christening Date: 2 May 1880 Recorded in: Mortlake, Surrey, England Father: Robert Smith Mother: Elizabeth Source: FHL Film 1041795 Dates: 1677 - 1881 1881 census Robert SMITH Head M Male 39 Lancashire, England Carpenter Elizabeth SMITH Wife M Female 41 Carmarthen, Wales Carpenters Wife Mary Ann SMITH Daur Female 20 Woolwich, Kent, England Assistant At Grocers Shop Arthur SMITH Son Male 14 Richmond, Surrey, England Scholar Charles SMITH Son Male 12 Richmond, Surrey, England Scholar Elizabeth SMITH Daur Female 6 Mortlake, Surrey, England Scholar Ernest SMITH Son Male 4 Mortlake, Surrey, England Scholar Mary SMITH Daur Female 4 m Mortlake, Surrey, England Ada SMITH Daur Female 4 m Mortlake, Surrey, England Annie PENN Serv U Female 16 Eckfield, Hampshire, England General Servant Dwelling 1 Myrtle Cottage Census Place Mortlake, Surrey, England Family History Library Film 1341201 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0847 / 40 Page Number 35 hope this helps! Debs

Debs, Wrong one, but thanks for looking anyway ! Rick.

Thanks Debra...........more confused now....for some reason I've got John Hale (b.1832)married to Jane Monks daughter of Richard Monks Knotting Beds and later he married Ann Headland, daughter of Thomas Headland from Souldrop Beds. Their children (according to IGI) were Mary Annb.1842, Emmab.1868 and Sarah Elizabeth ,christened 17 Mar.1867 all in Knotting Beds. I got this from IGI - can they be this wrong or are there so many Hales around ? Any ideas ? Mary Brooke

Thankyou Deborah. The marriage is my William. Not sure on the christening but is a possibility. Will have to check location. Thanks again Jackie

MARY BROOKE Mary Ann was the only one that exactly matched the info you gave me! it might be worth keeping hod of and looking into it further. And for the fact that she had a sister called Emma aswell (I know its a gamble but considering they named the offspring after family members). Can you email me direct with all the info you have given me and I will go through my discs again and if not to many will try to see how many Hales in that area and forward them to you Debs

JACKIE I checked the map book and its not really that far away. and considering that the marriage was more likely to take place where the bride was from so its worth looking into Debs

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