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thanks sheila, heres hoping the other entry is his father. lol.sue.

Sue - thanks very much for looking up Joseph Kirkland for me - I thinks it's the right one! Cheers, Sheila

hi anthony.cant you get his birth certificate ? that would give you parents names and the address, you would be able to find him on the 1851 census then ? will give youwhat i found, it may be some help to you when you find his parents. parish records/ notts marriages st marys thomas shirley <M>sarah lovett 14/4/1748 john canner <m> sarah shirley 8/2/1780 george wakefield <M> margaret shirley 22/6/1807 james snowden <M> sarah shirley 1/5/1809 st peters john ingal[of laughton] <M> mary shirley 17/6/1743 st nicholas john spencer <M> mary shirley 19/6/1787 farndon james parks <M> priscilla shirley 30/11/1670 west leake george chamberlaine <M> elizabeth shirley 4/12/1723 timothy shirley <M> rachel brookes 6/8/1691 from the vri christenings sarah shirley.31/10/1749. st marys.f thomas.m sarah. mary shirley 11/11/1751.st marys. f thomas .m sarah. thomas shirley.25/5/1755.sotton in ashfield.f thomas.m sarah. woolhouse willows shirley.1/8/1756.s in a. f thomas.m melicent. jonathan shirley.30/11/1760. mansfield.f jonathan m maria. thomas shirley 25/9/1795. m amelia. vri marriages. thomas shirley <M> sarah lovett. st marys 14/4/1748 thomas shirley <M> milicent willows. sutton in ashfield. 20/10/1755. i hope this is eventually some use, sue. the only census i have that covers notts is the 1881, sorry i cannot help more. good luck, sue.

Hi Sue Thanks for the info you found for me very grateful, Its given me a few new leads. Thanks again Cheryl

St.Peters is Leeds parish Church, near the bus station. The trade directories are where I have picked up lots of info about the families connection with wood, that has been invaluable. Besides tracing back there occupations it has also given me info on where there business were sited and it is all around the church area, so maybe one or two of them did decide to become more involved with religon after all. Loll.

hi loll. have you looked at the trade directories ? and where is st peters in leeds ? sue.

Yes I know. I did wonder if some of them are related to us but at the moment the main clue seems to be wood!!! A bit like my head at the moment. Gt Grandfather,Gt Gt Grandfather & Gt Gt Gt Grandfather + brothers & Uncles all seem to be either Cabinet makers, Woodturners or Furniture Brokers, which really helps when looking for an occupation. All these Sedgwicks keep flying at me but don't seem to be able to tie many together at the moment, just keep plodding along.Just been updating my tree had'nt realised how much I had put together until now. Oh well back to work. Take care Loll

hi loll, did notice something strange. the amount of sedgwick's who where curates or church wardens etc, all over yorkshire. any thing like that in your tree ? sue.

Not to worry Sue. Just have to get back to the grindstone and search some more. I hope my decendants appreciate all the time & effort I've put into this. Thanks again Sue for your help, take care now Loll.

sorry loll. only thing i found was rothwell marriage thomas ripley and elisabeth lucas 6/11/1808. both of this parish. sue.

dont worry about it loll, i filled a form in the other day and put 1860 as my dob, mind you the bloke dealing with me said i looked well on it ! now i re read this i have just realised he wasnt complimenting me ! aaaah,and i thought i had got myself a toy boy !!! lol, sue.

Hi Sue , Sorry about that ( brain dead with all this searching ).They come from Leeds area. Everything seems to revolve around St.Peters Church. Glad you like the name , hated it as a child but quite like it now ---- not many of us around.Loll.

hi lorelli [love the name] where did they live. sue.

Hi Sue, Could you find anything on John Sedgwick b 1767 married Elizabeth Lucas b 1765 or John's father John Sedgwick not sure what year born or who he married. Also any siblings of 1767 John.Thanking you in advance take care Loll.

hi sheila. i found a joseph kirkland chr 25/10/1787. f william m hannah. at bullwell / nottinghamshire. also a william kirkland chr 8/4/1741 weston notts f joseph i hope this helps, sue.

hi andrea. all the records on the disc are pre 1837. do you have an address for them from the 1881 ? sue.

Sue - this is a bit of a long shot.....! I'm looking for JOSEPH KIRKLAND, I think from Weston, Notts, need his birth/christening which should be around 1785-1790, parents' names if poss? Thanks, Sheila

Thanks so much for trying Sue I really appreciate it. Linda x

Hi Sue, Thanks for those dates, I think that's definately his father. Yes, all the places are near Rotherham. thanks julia

hi, on the vri- george foers christened 1/10/1767. father john m elizabeth also- james foers chr 16/4/1773 f john m elizabeth. still unsure where these places are near, is it rotherham ? sue.