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Dear Kal, Thanks very much for your offer of help - much appreciated! I am having problems finding information for 1841 and wonder if you could look up the name Killin (sometimes spelt Killen)? They were a family of watchmakers and lived in Coventry - many thanks. Suzanne

Suzanne, No killen's on any census. 41/51/61 But here's what i did find. On the 1841.......living at swanswell street. Thomas Killings...55 ribbon weaver...born warks. Elizabeth Killings...37....born Ireland. James Killings...13...born Ireland. William Killings...9...not born warks. Thomas Killings....7...born warks. Joseph killings ...4...born warks. There are no relationships on the 1841 i'm afraid. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1851.......living at Yardley Street, holy trinity, coventry. Elizabeth Killin ...head..widow.45...laundress...born Rose Common Ireland. James Killin ...son..22 watch finisher...born congleton chs. Thomas Killin...son...17...ribbon weaver...born coventry. Joseph Killin...son...13...power loom weaver..born coventry ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1861...living at Canterbury street, holy trinity, coventry. Elizabeth Killin...head..widow...56...attending to domestic affairs....born Rosscommon, Ireland. Joseph Killin..son...23...unmarried...watch finisher....born foleshill. Elizabeth porter....lodger, widow....silk filler...born coventry. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1861......living at Yardley street, holy trinity, coventry. James b killin...head...32...watch finisher...born congleton, chs. Emma Killin...wife...26...silk winder...born stretton on dunsmore. William b Killin...son...3...scholar...born coventry. James b killin...son..2 months....born coventry. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1861 ...living at court 3 house 7 bond street, holy trinity, coventry. John Killin...head...41...silk weaver..born Ireland. Elizabeth Killin...wife...41...silk winder...born Coventry Thomas Killin...son...7..scholar..born coventry. Joseph Killin...border, widow....84.....silk weaver...born coventry. Hope this helps. Happy hunting. kal

Hi Kal, I am looking for George James Makepeace on the 1861 census of Coventry. He was born 1849-1851 in Coventry. His parents are I think William Makepeace and Elizabeth Cosford. Hope you can Help Lin

Hello Lin, Your makepeace family,.............I could not find a George james makepeace on the 1861, but i believe this is him, I also looked at the 1851, and you will see the similarities of the family. I think it is the same person. On the 1851 you have..........living at priory yard, holy trinity, coventry. William Makepeace ...head...44....brewer...born everdon, NTH. Elizabeth Makepeace...wife...45...laundress....born priors marston, warwickshire. Thomas Makepeace...son...20..erand boy...born priors marston, warwickshire. William makepeace...son...12....scholar...born coventry. Alfred makepeace..son...4...born coventry. James Geo...son...1...born coventry. Lin on the 1851 there are 4 makepeace's born in Everdon, NTH. I am not sure if it's supposed to be everdon or everton ? NTH. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the 1861 you have...living at 1 byron place, stoney stanton road. William Makepeace...head...55...brewer...born everton, NTH. Elizabeth Makepeace..wife...57...born priors marston. warwickshire. Thomas makepeace...son....30..unmarried...born coventry. James makepeace..son...11...scholar...born coventry. John Lenton...boarder...30...ribbon weaver...born foleshill. No sign of William or Alfred on the 1861. Lin on the 1861 there are two people born Everton NTH. Just in case you want to know who they are, lol. I had a look on the 1841 as william in 1851 age 12, states born coventry, but no luck. sorry. Hope this helps. let me know if i can help more. kal

Sheila, On the 1861 you have...................living at meriden, sorry no other address. George Cooper...head...28...Ag Lab...born Appleby, Lei. Elizer Cooper....wife...28...born packington, warks. Ann Elizabeth Cooper...daughter...3...born fillongley, warks. Elizer Cooper...daughter...9 months...born meriden, Warks. Hope this helps, sheila i looked on the 1851 and never found George sorry. Kal

Sheila glad i could help. Kal

Hi Kal 1861 Could you please look up Edwin Johnson (b 1831 coventry), Mary Ann Johnson (b 1837) and Herbert Johnson (b1860). All born Coventry. St Michaels area. Possibly 50 Much Park Street. 1841 Edwin (as above) and Mary Ann Webb (b 1837, parents John & Maria). Again possibly St Michaels area. Thanks Geraldine

Geraldine, The only Edwin Johnson on the 1861 is.............. Edwin Johnson ...head..26...house painter...born foleshill. Ann Johnson...wife...23...silk picker...born coventry. George Johnson ...son...born coventry. Arthur Johnson..son..2..born coventry. living at 17 court 13 st john street, st michael, coventry. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1861 you have....................... Mary Johnson..head...married....26....silk warper...born coventry. Herbert Johnson ...son..1...born coventry. living at 50 much park street, st. michael, coventry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1841 you have..................There are no relationships on the 1841. John Johnson............49..............painter.born warks. Elizabeth Johnson......48......born warks. John Johnson age 22 born warks. ellen johnson.age 17...silk weaver..born warks. adelade Johnson...14..born warks. Edwin Johnson .age 11......born warks. living at Far Gosford Street. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1841 you have............ John Webb .age 36......Baker.........born warks. Maria Webb.age 35....born warks. Martha Webb.........age 10.born warks. mary webb ...age 6.........born warks. living at Much park street,. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1851 you have .......... John Johnson....head...widow...56...painter and glazier...born willienhall, warks. Edwin Johnson.son....18....painter and glazier...born coventry. living at back of Gosford street, coventry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1851 you have.................. John Webb ......47.........baker...........born marston, warks. Sarah Webb .wife...31..........housekeeper.....born bagwith, lec. Martha Webb ......daughter.....19...warper of silk.born coventry. Mary Webb.daughter........16.....warper ofsilk........born coventry. Eliza Webb .......age 6.....scholar...........born coventry. John Webb.son.age 2.born coventry. Geraldine, i know this one has a different wife, but wife no one may have died. Hope ths helps, if you want me to do more, let me know, happy hunting. kal.

Kal Thanks a million. Do you think Edwin Johnson was playing away from home in 1861 and had two wives?!! This branch has been quite easy to follow as they stayed in the same place till at least 1901. However, I'm having more trouble tracking down John Johnson's cousin/siblings and the Willenhall birthplace on the 1851 census is the best clue yet. Can you tell me if the Webbs were still at Much Park Street in 1861. Regards Geraldine

Geraldine, This really does not make sense, i have looked backwards, forwards and sideways. Although i found the Webb family on the 41. and on the 51 living at much park street, but john with a different wife, i have found this family on the 1861, living at Much park street, but it does not make sense, now the children are different, lol, The ages work out right for John and possible second wife sarah, but the children are different, helen and richard, on there, i just cannot find on the 1851. and the family on the 51 i gave you, i can't find on the 61, only these..................... John webb...head...56...baker....born cov. sarah webb...wife...40...born cov. helen webb...daughter...15...silk warper..born cov. maria webb...daughter...born cov fanny webb....daughter...4...born cov. richard webb...son..11...born cov. john webb...son...born cov I'm sorry, but i just can't work it out, lol. I would take this with a pinch of salt, lol. I also have a load of Johnsons born and bred in coventry, but have not started sorting them yet, lol. kal

Hi Kal Could you possibly look up Joseph Mallett for me. He should be around 17 in 1861. I know in 1881 he was a watchmaker and living in Far Gosford Street in the Holy Trinity area. From Family search website I believe that his parents may have been Thomas and Betsey Mallett, but since I cannot find the register of his birth I can't verify them as parents. The 1881 census shows his birthplace as Coventry. Any help really appreciated. Thanks Tracey

Hello Tracy. Do you think this is him on the 1861....... living at 73 black horse spon end. John Keene head 54 born bedworth, malster publican Mary Keene wife 49 born knowle John Keene son 25 born foleshill watch maker Maria keene Daughter 22 born coventry, silk winder George Keene son 18 born coventry, watch maker Emma Keene daughter 5 born coventry JOSEPH MALLET BOARDER 19 BORN ST MICHEALS< COVENTRY, WATCH MAKER George Wilson boarder 15 born west bromwich, watch maker Mary j Keene daughter 10 born coventry. --------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1841 i found this................... living at well street coventry. Thomas Mallett.....42....labourer born warks Elizabth Mallett .....40........silk winder..born warks Thomas Mallet....7........born warks William Mallet.....2..........born warks Joseph Mallett.2 months..born warks Fanny Burton...22......born warks Caroline Burton...20........born warks Elizabeth bradnick.....76..born warks Remember on the 1841 it does not give relationships. Tracy i cannot find any more mallets, on the 1861, even on the 1851 warwickshire census, i have done every name variation there is on all three census's, and no luck i'm afraid, sorry. kindest regards kal

Hi Kal Thank you very much for your help. It does look like the right person. I'm going to go back and look for his birth register again, maybe this time I'll get lucky! He married a lady called Sarah Clark, which must be one of the most common names at that time and so their marriage is proving very hard to find too. But at least one brick wall has come tumbling down. Thanks again Kindest regards Tracey.

Hi Kal, Remember me I was the one with all the Barnacles. Thanks so much for all your work I have been on such a roll since then. Could you possibly help me out again with my grandmothers side. Am looking for any details for William Woolley b.1858 Berkwell, married to Mary Robbins in Stretton on Dunsmore. Think his fathers name might have been George. Thanks again Lin

hello Lin, On the 1861 your William and parents........................ living at Waste Lane, berkswell, meriden. George Woolley...head....age 23........born balsall..agricultural labourer. Ann Woolley...wife...age 27...born asaly warwickshire. Wiliam Woolley..son..age 2...born Berkswell. Thomas Woolley...son...age 1..born berkswell. George Woolley...son..age 2 months....born berskwell. Thomas Baker...boarder...25....born berswell..ag lab. Eliza Baker...wife...Boarder...age 20..born berkswell...servant Sharlott Baker...son...boarder...age 11...born berkswell..scholar. Elizabeth Baker...boarder...age 5..born berkswell...scholar. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Lin i believe these to be Georges parents, lol On the 1851 you have.living at.....beanett farm meriden William Wolley...head..age 45...born Berswell...farm lab. Mary Woolley..wife...age 51...born cubbington warks. Joseph Woolley ...son...age 15...born Ballsall...farm lab. George Woolley...son...age 13...born balsall. Joseph Woolley...brother...age 35 unmarried...born balsall...farm lab. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- And Georges parents on the 1861 living at Bennett House, Arches Lane, Berkswell, meriden. William Woolley ..head...age 56...born Berkswell...ag lab. Mary Woolley ...wife...age 61...born cubbington. Jane Taylor....grandaughter...age 10...born birmingham...scholar. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Lin there is no sign of Joseph woolley age 15 in 1851 with William and Mary, on the 1861. Nor the Joseph that is 35 on the 1851 that is Williams brother on the 1861. Hope this helps. LOl that should keep you busy for a few days, lol. kal

Hi Kal, Could you possibly look in the 1861 census for.. JOSEPH and AMELIA GAGAN. Sometimes spelt GARGEN. The address could be OLD YARD, FOLESHILL. Many thanks, Kaye.

Hello Kaye, On the 1861 census..Living at Old Yard, Foleshill. Joseph Gagan...Head...age 57.....Born Dublin...Ribbon Weaver. Amelia Gagan....Wife..age 54....Born Foleshill...Ribbon Weaver. Joshua Gagan...Son...age 20...Born Foleshill...Ribbon Waeaver. Joseph Gagan...Son....age 18..Born Foleshill...Ribbon Weaver. John Gagan...Son...Age 14...Born Foleshill....Ribbon Weaver. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kaye also on the 1861 you have. (seperate address from above)...........Living at Old Yard, Foleshill. James Gagan....Head...age 29....Born Foleshill....Silk Weaver Ribbons. Ann Gagn...Wife...age 27...Born Foleshill....Silk Weaver Ribbons. Elizabeth Gagan...Daughter....Born Foleshill. _---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kaye on the 1851 transcribed as Gargen you have ............Living at Old Yard, Foleshill. Joseph Gargen....head....age 44...Born Dublin....Silk Weaver. Amanda Gargen....Wife....age 43....Born Foleshill....Silk Weaver. James Gargen....Son...age 19...Born Folehill. Silk Weaver. Sarah Gargen...Daughter...age 17...Born Foleshill...Silk Filler. C Gargen...Daughter....age 14.....Born Foleshill...Silk Filler. Joshua Gargen...Son...Born Foleshill....Scholar. Joseph Gargen...Son...age 7...Born Foleshill...Scholar. John Gargen...Son...age 3...Born Foleshill...Scholar. Kaye it looks like Amelia was mistranscribed as Amanda, and i Presume the C Gargen to be Charlotte as on the 1841. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- And lastly on the 1841 you have.......Living at Old Yard. Joseph Gaghan...age 30....Born Ireland...Ribbon Weaver. Amelia Gaghan...age 30...born warks. James Gaghan...age 9...Born Warks. Sarah Gaghan..age 8..Born Warks. Charlotte Gaghan...age 4...Born Warks. Joshua Gaghan...age 2 wks...Born Warks. Kaye on the 1841 there are no relationships, and ages were rounded up or down. Hope this helps Kal

HI KAL, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU ARE SPOT ON..IF YOU WERE IN SYDNEY I WOULD GIVE YOU A BIG HUG!! LOL I HAVE ANOTHER ONE WHICH MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE A STAB AT FOR ME.. WILLIAM TAYLOR..YES TAYLOR..GROAN. BORN AROUND 1847 IN COVENTRY. ALL I KNOW IS THEY LIVED IN THE CITY..BELONGED TO ST MICHAELS..AND HE WAS A WATCH FINISHER..JUST WISH HIS NAME WASN'T TAYLOR! THANK YOU SO MUCH KAL, KAYE.

Kaye, lol lol Glad i could help, Taylor oh my god, lol it's as bad as my names, Smith, Davis and Ray, lol Ray may not sound a common name, nut its also spelt ray/reay/rea/wray. lol lol i will have a look. kal

Kaye, Lol you ready for this, On the 1861 you have............living at North side nr bridge Street, Coventry, st john. John Taylor...head...age 42...born leamington....watch maker finisher. Jane Taylor...wife...age 42...born coventry. John Taylor...son..age..18...born coventry...watch maker finishers app. william taylor...son...age 14...born coventry...watch maker finisher on trial. martha Taylor....daughter....age 11..born coventry..scholar. george Taylor..son..age 3...born coventry....scholar. Tom Taylor...son..age 7 months...born coventry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- on the 1851 you have...........living at spon street, st micheal coventry. John Taylor....head...32....born coventry...watch finisher. Jane taylor...wife....age 31...born coventry...weaver. John Taylor...age 8...born coventry..scholar. William Taylor....age 4....born coventry. Martha Taylor...daughter...age 1...born coventry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On the 1841 you have but it doesnt make sense because of martha, lol. living at fleet street, coventry. John Taylor...age 20...born warks...watch maker. Jane Taylor...age 20...born warks....ribbon weaver. Martha taylor age 1 ...born coventry. Kaye there is another william taylor on the 1861, but he is at bablake boys school, age 13 born coventry, but due to the watch making theme i do not think he is yours. lol hope this helps kal