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Hello Robin Thank you once again for your help. I'm afraid I don't have anyone as posh as a Surgeon in my family - I'm interested in a Thomas Howley who was a servant with this family in the 1841. I contacted you before about Thomas, when you told me he was working as a servant, and living in Worksop.in 1841. Have since found out he was working for this family. I was hoping that he may still have been with them in 1851 (possibly with his name mistranscribed), as you couldn't find him before on 1851. Unfortunately, he's not! He's one of those people who just seems to have vanished off the face of the earth! Thanks again.

Debbie Bingo I hope. Derbys 1861 Piece 2493, West Hallam Village. There are a number of Hobson families but this is the only Mathew. Folio 8 , 62 Twistle?Gate Mathew Hobson, Head, Marr, 55Yrs Ag Lab Dorothy Wife 56Yrs Eliza Dau 18 Yrs House Servant Mathew Son 16Yrs Coal Miner William GSon 13 Yrs dit All b West Hallam except Dorothy who is b Ockbrook (Derbys) If this is not him I will check Ilkeston (Notts 1861)

Ann Notts 1851 Piece 2122, Worksop Folio 51, 55 Potter Street William G Beardsall, Head , Mar, 50 yrs, Surgeon &General Practioner, Eliza , wife 33yrs, Barbara May/Mary Dau 12yrs,Elizabeth ???{Deakin?} UnMar 15yrs General Servant, All b Worksop. These three are all on the 1841 Census at Gateford Road, Worksop. I am not sure if you are tracking Beardsall or the servants as there is another Beardsall at 64 Potter Street who is also a Surgeon, with family and servants. Also looking at the 1841 Census the heads of these two families may be brothers with a father George who was also a Surgeon and married a Barbara in 1799. Let me know if you want details.

Hello Robin. Would you be so kind to look someone up for me, on the 1851? William Beardall, or Beardsall, aged around 50, living Worksop, a Surgeon. I would like to know all members of his household, including servants. Thank You.

Hello Robin Thanks again for that look up, i would like to take you up on the other offer when your not so busy Thankyou Debbie

Debbie I have checked Piece 2126 Notts 1851, which covers parts of Ilkeston, Shipley, Cotmanhay and Heanor (Derbys. )No Trace. West Hallam is covered by Piece 2141 ,Shardlow, Derbyshire census in 1851. I have both for 1861 if you need those but remind me next week end if you need them.

Hello Robin Thanks for looking that up for me , im mainly looking for matthew Hobson age about 3 ,living in West hallam ,if it covers that area ,or any others in that area or in Ilkeston . Thanks again Debbie

Debbie Yes about 50. I am away until next week end. If you can give me an idea of who and where to look for then, I will check.

Hello Robin could u please look and see if there are any Hobson,s on it please . Many Thanks Debbie

Thanks anyway, Robin. Will try to look at the original.

You're right Robin -2 of Anthoneye Winge and Ursula Baxter's children were christened at Denton. They certainly got around as they married in W Allington. Being ag labs suppose they went where the work was, mostly seasonal. Jackie

Jackie I have Anthony Wing of West Allington married at Staunton 21st May 1761 to Sarah Atkinson, which looks like the one you already have. Denton is about 4/5 miles away so I would imagine there will be connections eventually. Thanks for the e mail. Nice to know we got there in the end.!

Ann The answer is no Sorry.As I am working from a transcription surname indexed all I can tell you is that there are no other Howleys at Gateford Road. House numbers are not given so you would need to see the original to find out who he is working for.

On 28/6 you kindly told me about Thomas Howley working as a servant, aged 15, living Gateford Rd, Worksop, on the 1841 census. Would it be possible for you to give me exact address, and all other members of the household. Thank You.

Hi Robin Not too sure about the Rotherham link. Some did go there around mid 1800s and married and settled Sheffield/ Doncaster etc working in the iron foundries etc. Really the E allington ones i'm after. I see there are loads from Denton. What is the likelihood that there was a connection between them and those in E Allington? It's Anthony b c 1736 I'm after married Sarah Atkinson. Absolutely nothing (think you may have looked before for him) tHere are anthonys before him in E Allington, his son Anthony but nothing for his birth on IGI. If you do have the time to look, would be very grateful if it's not too much trouble. His son Anthony died Sedgebrook. Jackie

Aaaargh!! That's frustration. Anyway thanks, at least I know where she isn't.

Janice The surname Cooper is not listed on the Index in Kneesall or North Muskham. I have checked again visually=negative

Lorna Negative I am afraid nor are the marriage and the christening listed on my indexes.

Thanks anyway. She might be using the name Cooper and is in North Muskham. If you get chance could you have a quick look. Thanks again, Janice.

Janice I cannot find her 1851/61