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emma again a servant, I hate it when that happens but, here it is Edwin Church everett 42 solicitor caister nfk jane wife 38 arthur son 11 kathleen daugh 9 hannah lusher 17 servant attleborough living besthorpe lane attleborough. ____________

kaye still no sign of edward people that eleanor was living with robert viney 60 elizabeth daugh 30 samual son 19 eleanor tapp 19 servant.

Thanks very much for this (re Richard Walton) The age looks right and they were still in Aston Was he the only Richard Walton of the right age in Birmingham? Thanks

Hi Sally, Thanks so much for looking for me..Edward may well have been in another county, the regular guys used to get moved all over the place.The info on Eleanor is helpful for a year of birth...I shall keep hunting. Thanks again, Kaye.

Thank you Sally! Although Hannah Lusher is listed as a servant, the head of the household also turns to be her uncle - it wasn't such a disappointment after all! Thanks again, Emma

andrew Yes the only one that age. glad you are all happy. Sally.

Hi Sally, with regard to richard walton - does the census detail the place of birth of the family members thanks again, Andy

andrew. John walton 55 bricklayer lucy wife 45 john son 20 patent leather dresser richard son 15 buck maker joseph son 12 metal cooler henry son 10 all born aston living 8 darwen st, aston.

Thanks Sally - now I can go and see who is still living 30 years later

Hi Sally Could you look up the following 2 names in the Devon census. Ann Burgoyne born 1818 (app) George Ellis born 1815 (app) I think they were living in the Bigbury/Thurlestone areas south of Plymouth. Many thanks Jan

Jan. this is what I have found Ann burgoyne 1818 born thurlestone. 1851 Jane wills head 42 grocer thurlestone ann burgoyne BPtn 33 grocer thurlestone living George Lane Plymouth. I presume BPtn means Buisness Partner.???? the only George Ellis born 1815 1851 George ellis 36 sailor brixham living that night Union Workhouse. what do you think?????????

Hi Sally Thanks for doing that, they both look right. George Ellis was a sailor and I think Ann Burgoyne worked in a shop so it looks as if that is both of them. Jan

Hi Sally, Could you please look for Joseph and Mary Ann Sellick in Bovey Tracey, Jospeh was a stonemason. Many Thanks Cherryl

cherryl, Joseph not there that night must have been staying out of the county, 1851 Mary Ann sellick wife/head M 35 masons wife Bovey tracey John son 12 joseph son 8 mary elizabeth daugh 6 emanuel son 4 living 28 John street stoke damerel.

Barbara, there is a Jane age 63 widow living tiverton which is near exeter but, none born 1824. Sally

Hi Sally I don't know whether you will be able to help me as i have very little information to go on. I am looking for an Edward Jones who was born about 1843/4. The only information i have on him from the 1871/81 census is that he was born in Birmingham Warwickshire. He would be about 7/8yrs on the 1851. On IGI i found two of them. One born 1843 and one in 1844. He married a lady called Jane but i can't find their marriage. Thanks for your help Jane

Jane, THere are 6 Edward Jones born 1843/4 Birmingham so will take me a little longer to research, I will do my best please bear with me.

Thanks Sally I look forward to seeing what information you can find for me on Edward Jones. Thanks Jane

margaret, sorry they are not on 1851 census. but, do not know if this helps found them on 1871 census samuel 56 wire worker stonehouse emily 45 kings stanley edwin 18 wire drawer birmingham sarah L 7 lucy 5 living 16b dartmouth st, birmingham edwin married a annie appleby dec qrt 1876 birmingham and found lucy 1901 living with sister Louisa (which I think was sarah louisa married to a John regan 39 machine fitter and Florence their daughter 14 Lucy Hale 35 living with them at l, st stephens place new town. Do hope this helps.

Jane, I think maybe this is the one charles jones 32 carpenter ann wife 39 harriet daugh 13 william son 12 emma daugh 10 EDWARD son 8 ann daugh 6 aaron son 2 living watery lane bordesley aston birmingham the only marriage I could find was edward to Jane scott dec qrt 1861 which would have made him 18 and her 17 which is feasable what do you think?? If so I can give you Jane's parents etc from 1851 census. Sally.