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wow..this tread is causing quite a debate!!! i would like to thank you all for your help, AND putting up with my mistake in the begining

I know what your saying Jools ... no record of him being born ... maybe he was one of the few that was never registered ? Elaine :-0

Elaine - I wasn't questioning the marriage you'd found. From FR home page QUOTE The site includes all known Civil Registration Index images from 1866 to 1983. Also there is a fully searchable database for Births, Marriages and Deaths from 1866 to 1920 as well as 1984 to 2002 ENDQUOTE 1866-1920 is searchable by specific name, 1921 onwards returns results the same was as 1837online - the name you're after may be on the page. What I'm getting at is that if it is such an unusual surname - which it seems to be - how come there isn't a english/welsh birth which ties in datewise with the name of the marriage you found? Were they born as something else or has the name gillas been entered as something which sounds the same - gillers for example. Right now it looks as if someone married who was never born !!!

Jools, I see where your coming from ... and I agree, would seem highly unlikely ! I've never used this Family Relatives site that your referring to ...is it 100% complete & reliable (if its transcribed) I can only give what I find and its definately on the marriages 1837online ...shall I send you the image from 1837 ? Elaine :-)

Margaret - if you look at the bottom of page 1 of this thread, you will see that I posted the result of a search on familyrelatives 1866-1920. This is what I was referring to. I know 1837online is the place to go 1921 forwards. I still ask the question - if the last Gillas birth on family relativres in the period 1866-1920 is 1872, how can someone called Gillas marry in 1930 and go on to have children, it is almost biologically impossible.

Jools Familyrelatives is only transcribed up to 1920. After that its just like 1837online. The lists it gives you are just the first and last names on the pages. Easier to use 1837online after 1920 at the moment Margaret

Elaine - if Harold J Gillas married an Edwards in q1/1930, how come there are no Gillas births on familyrelatives after 1872??

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This COULD be a mistranscription on the 1901 ... but I'll have a LOOK on the image and get back to you: George Giles 34 Paddington, London, England Head Croydon Surrey Mary M M Giles 32 S Norwood, Surrey, England Wife Croydon Surrey George A Giles 11 Paddington, London, England Son Croydon Surrey Arthur W Giles 10 Croydon, Surrey, England Son Croydon Surrey Elsie F Giles 7 Croydon, Surrey, England Daughter Croydon Surrey Annie E M Giles 4 Croydon, Surrey, England Daughter Croydon Surrey Harold J Giles 2 Croydon, Surrey, England Son Croydon Surrey Christopher Walker 39 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Boarder Croydon Surrey Christopher Walker 39 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Boarder Croydon Surrey Adeline M Walker 23 Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Boarder Croydon Surrey It DOES look like Giles on the image .... Fingers crossed that the Marriage Cert gives you their ACTUAL age and not 'of age'.. Elaine :-)

Hello ! How about this one for the actual MARRIAGE. March 1930 Harold J Gillas = Edwards Kensington 1a, 326 March 1930 Ada A Edwards = Gillas Kensington 1a, 326 This is the ONLY GILLAS marriage between 1925 - 1931 IT MUST be yours ..sorry, I'm NOT taking NO for an ansa !! LoL Ada's middle name must be Annie Elaine :-))))

thank you.....i didnt have a clue to be honest where it was

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Tell ya what ...now that we seem to be a little straighter with the info, I'll go have a look for 'possible' mistranscriptions of the Gillas that MAYBE was born by the time of the 1901 census !!! I'll only come back if I find anything promising ! Brought a smile to my face anyway ! Elaine :-) !!

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john married audrey brown 1933 (my info source)................' I think that is when she was born LOL not when he married her

lol not their wedding date............her birth date !!! lol im writing wrong and u r reading wrong hehehe

We are only human !! but .... 'they had john gillas 1930-1991................. john married audrey brown 1933 (my info source)................' am I reading it wrong !!!! LoL ! Elaine :-)

arghhhhhh SORRY.....my mistake, they werent married in 1900 , this is about when charles henry gillas was born...... he married annie edwards in fulham.................. they had john gillas 1930-1991................. john married audrey brown ( born 1933) (my info source)................ they had susan gillas 1958-1988............... susan married les martin (now my partner).............. they had sarah martin 1986 (my step daughter)............. very very sorry for not explaining properly:-(

Just what I was thinking Jools & Elaine lol

Hi Jools, Just glad I didn't see the thread earlier and start looking ! Elaine :-)