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welcome to the boards Shirley :-)

Mansta posted back in 2013 and that was her only post - she might still be a member so you could try toi contact her through the site by clicking on her name to send a message - if she still has the same email she should get the message

Mansta. My husband's Grandmother was a Hellyer and have traced back to Portland, how are you related please?

Oh my goodness.... I'm descended from the Hellyers on Portland. What a load of info. Thank you :)

Hi there, thanks for your kind offer. Could you please see if there is anything for the 'Barnett' family? My great great grandad came from there - he was born in 1864 - Charles Barnett. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks again, Julie

Those Portland Whites might be the same family, just KV Saunders was wrong in the marriage of John and Mary. I've found a few mistakes too. It's all down to individual interpretation. Chloe

All i really need now is info on Elizabeth White know she married William Stone in 1868-9 and had a son William in 1869 on 1871 census she is a widow and has her mum and various lodgers cant find either her or son on 1881 so either died or she remarried,finding her sister Marys marriage would be a nightmare Kazzie

Thanks Kazzie, that's really sweet.

PS - have you seen this from the IGI. Not sure how reliable it is though -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barnard White Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 14 MAY 1775 Frampton, Dorset, England Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: John White Family Mother: Martha Toogood

Georgie has alot of discs for Dorset so have just emailed her to see if she can find anything on any Tobys,if anyone else you are looking for just ask Kazzie

Thanks Kazzie. If you have more names etc for the Whites, more than happy to look for them on the disc.

Yes have these Claxtons and yeah were related Charles being John and Marys nephew not come across the Reginald though so will look for him now,as for the Whites not to worry as like you said lots of them on there,will kindly ask rellie Georgie for her Gedcom file as be much easier anyway thanks for all your help and if do come across any Tobys will let you know Kazzie

Kazzie - maybe I wasn't clear enough. In Portland, there might well have been a marriage between a John White and a MAry Comben, and the children that KV Saunders found... he just assumed that John White and Mary Comben were the parents, when in fact they might well have moved away and another John and Mary moved in.... make sense???? As for finding more - confused as to what you're asking for. Lots of Whites in Portland so going to need forenames and dates etc. As for Claxton, these are the only records that are on the disc. From Abbotsbury so might well be related somehow. 9 Mch 1885 Charles Richard of Christopher & Susan CLAXTON Abbotsbury; Farmer &c; (bn 1 Feb 85); J PICKLES 15 Jan 1874 Linna? Emily of Christopher & Susan CLAXTON Abbotsbury; Carrier; (bn 19 Dec 73); J C LITTLEY WW2 Memorial - CLAXTON Reginald A As for my Tobys - still not found them on the 1841. I already knew they weren't in Portland..... they must be about somewhere!! Chloe

Just to say Chloe after telling another relative on the Claxton side about your find said she also had white conections and after checking a gedcom file she was sent did show it was Mary Claxton marrying a John White not Mary Comben so anything else you can find on these would be great,did you manage to find your Tobys? Kazzie

Kazzie - remember that the reconstructed families might well be wrong, it is what KV Saunders thought went together. Maybe this John White and Mary Comben that he mentioned married moved away but he assumed that they stayed. Chloe

John WHITE of Portland & Mary CLAXTON married 09-Jun 1821 here is the marriage in Abbotsbury everything fits into place exept the name Mary Comben KAZ

Wow Chloe that is brilliant never thought would find the Whites it was John White and Mary Claxton that married Abbotsbury Bernard and this Hellier were obviously his parents as where the Hellier come into the Joseph Richard Hellier White comes into it gonna sit here and work it all now many thanks Kaz

No problem Chris. Glad I could help. Kazzie - weird that you say they were married in Abbotsbury... the marriage is in the Portland register! When did they marry in Abbotsbury? John White's family (this is what the CD has put together) 1799 21 Nov Bernard WHITE (cordwainer) & Sarah HELLYAR (banns); Marr in church by S PAYNE (rector); Bernard WHITE, Sarah (X) HELLYER; wit. Amos WHITE, James TREVIS 1841 census Chesil I Bernard WHITE 65 Shoemaker Y WHI-057 Chesil William WHITE 20 Shoemaker Y ' Children of Bernard White & Sarah Hellyar/Hellier 1800 March (?) [Bernet - deleted] John so Bernet & Sarah WHITE . Married Mary Comben. Died 1849. 1802 January 17 Joseph so Bernard & Sarah WHITE. Buried 1803 December 15 Joseph so Bernard & Sarah WHITE 1804 July 22 Ann Hellyer do Bernard & Sarah WHITE 1806 17 Aug Margery do Bernard & Sarah WHITE. Marriage - 1828 25 Oct banns 28/9, 5 & 12/10 Henry STONE (bach) & Margery Hellyer WHITE (spin); Geo PORT (curate); both signed; wit. Barnard WHITE, Henry PITT . MI for her and family - In loving memory of HENRY STONE/who died Dec 30th 1891/aged 87 years Also of/MARGERY HELLYER/wife of the above who died Feb 18th 1886/aged 80 years Also 3 children of the above/who died as follows EDWARD July 15th 1832/aged 3 years ANN March 31st 1845/aged 9 months ANN REBECCA Oct 8th 1858/aged 8 years Not gone from memory not gone from love But gone to their Fathers home above 1809 5 Mch Joseph so Bernard & Sarah WHITE. Buried 26 May 1830 Joseph WHITE; aged 21; so Barnett & Sarah WHITE; Chesil; so H Harrison off min 16 May 1819 William Richard Hellyer so Bernard & Sarah WHITE; Chiswell; shoemaker; J MANNING AM curate . MI - In/affectionate remembrance of WILLIAM R H WHITE who died February 24 1873/aged 54 years Also/WILLIAM J J H WHITE/son of the above who died October 23 1858/aged 4 months/(?)/(?) Also of MARY GIBBS/widow of the above who died August 6 1881/aged 60 years Sarah Hellier's family 1776 19 Feb Joseph HELLIAR (bach) & Susanna WAY (spin) (banns 4, 11, 18/2 by R DAUBERRY); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY (Curate); Joseph HELLIAR, Susanna (X) WAY; wit. Wm WAY, Wm WAY . Their children - i) 1777 19 jan Sarah do Joseph & Susanna HELLYAR (married Bernard White). Buried - 8 May 1837 Sarah WHITE; aged 60; wo Barnard WHITE; Chesil; J Harington Rector ii) 1777 14 Dec William so Joseph & Susannah HELLYAR Buried 1779 Dec 19 William so Joseph & Suesanna HELLYER iii) 1780 3 July Margery do Joseph & Suesana HELLYER . Buried 1805 9 Jly Margery HELLIER iv) 1782 8 Dec William so Joseph & Suesana HELLYER . Died May 1912 (MI to follow) v) 1785 11 Dep Henry so Joseph & Susannah HELLYER . Buried 22 May 1823 Henry HELLYER; aged 37; ; Cheswell; J Manning AM curate vi) 1788 6 Jly Joseph so Joseph & Susanne HELLYER vii) John born 1791. Buried 1799 10 March John so Joseph & Susanna HELLYER viii) 1793 7 Nov Ann do Joseph & Susanna HELLYER. Buried 1799 20 Oct Ann do Joseph & Susanna HELLYER ix) 1796 25 Dec Richard so Joseph & Susanna HELLYER . Buried 25 Jan 1818 Richard HELLYER; aged 21; ; Cheswell; J Mayne MI of this family. My guess is why William's burial record is not there perhaps because he committed suicide and therefore was not allowed a Christian burial??? Tir'd of the tempest here below Worn out with pain and toil Death lays the gallant seaman low Beneath his native soil To which his body we resign Which long his mind depress'd In hope his soul through love Divine Has gained the port of rest Sacred to the/memory/of SUSANNA wife of JOSEPH HELLYER who died the 23rd of April 1818 aged 63 years Also JOSEPH HELLYER her husband who died the 31st of Octr 1822 aged 73 years ((15 Lines Illegible)) Their children WILLIAM HELLYER their son who was drowned May the 7th 1812 aged 29 years Also RICHARD HELLYER who died the 19th of Jan 1818 aged 21 years Also HENRY HELLYER who died the 17th of May 1823 aged 37 years ((8 Lines Illegible)) Sacred/to the memory of two sons and two daughters of JOSEPH/and SUSANNA HELLYER viz WILLIAM, JOHN, ANN & MARGERY WILLIAM departed this life the 16/of December 1779 aged 2 years JOHN departed this life the/2 of March 1799 aged 8 years ANN departed this life the 12 of/October 1799 aged 6 years Also MARGERY departed this/life 4 of July 1805 aged 25/years ((4 Lines Illegible)) Joseph Hellier's family i) 1745 23 May Elisabeth do Henry & Ann HILLIER ii) 1747 2 Dec Henery so Henery & Ann HELLYER . Marriage - 1770 12 Jly Henry HELLIAR & Tabitha PEARCE (banns); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY (Curate); HENERY HELLYER, Tabitha PEARCE; wit. Thomas STEVENS, William BUTTS . Buried 30 Mch 1821 Henry HELLYER; aged 75; ; Cheswell (Poorhouse); J Manning AM curate. In/memory of TABITHA/the wife of HENERY HELLYER she departed/this life Sep 8 1771/aged 27 years Also to the memory of the above/HENERY HELLYER who died the 27 of March 1821/aged 77 years iii) 1749 21 May Joseph so Henry & Ann HILLIER . Married Susanna Way (see above). Buried 4 Nov 1822 Joseph HELLYER; aged 73; ; Cheswell; J Manning AM curate iv) 1755 9 Nov Isack of Henry & Ann HELLIER . Buried 14 Jly 1821 Isaac HELLYER; aged 65; ; Wakeham; J Manning AM curate Susanna Way's family (siblings) i) 1745 22 Nov Margery do Willm & Susannah WAY. Married 1768 7 Nov William ATTWOOLL & Margery WAY (banns); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY; William ATTWOOLL, Margery WAY; wit. William WAY, Robert PEARCE . Buried 1776 30 Oct Margery wo William ATTWOOLL ii) 1747 6 Aug Mary do Wm & Susannah WAY . Married 1774 6 May Edward ATTWOOL & Mary WAY (banns); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY; Edward ATTWOOLL, Mary WAY; wit. Wm WAY, Wm ATTWOOLL Buried 1786 23 May, Mary wo Edward ATTWOOLL iii) 1749 9 Apr John so Wm & Susannah WAY. Buried 1753 27 Dec John so Wm & Susannah WAY iv) 1753 10 Jne Alexander of Wm & Susannah WAY . Married 1776 5 Jan Alexander WAY (bach) & Mary WINTER (spin) (banns 18, 25/12, 1/1 by R DAUBERRY); Marr in church by Richd DAUBERRY (Curate); Alexander WAY, Mary (X) WINTER; wit. Edward ATTWOOLL, William WINTER . Buried 4 Mch 1825 Alexander WAY; aged 71; ; Poorhouse; J Manning AM curate v) 1755 16 Aug Susannah of William & Susannah WAY . Married Joseph Hellier. Buried 26 Apr 1818 Susannah HELLYER; aged 62; ; Cheswell or Chesil; J Manning curate William Way's family 1717 6 Dec John WAY & Margery STONE (by Banns) . (parents) i) 1719 9 Sep Edith do John & Margery WAY ii) 1722 30 Nov William so John & Margery WAY. Married Susannah ?? Margery Stone's family 1694 21 Jly Benjamin STONE & Agnes NOWELL i) 1695 13 Apr Margery do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Buried 1695 16 May Margery STONE ii) 1696 12 Apr Margery do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married William Way. iii) 1698 4 Sep Eleanor do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married 1718/19 16 Jan Edward GLOVER & Elinor STONE (by Banns) . Buried 1738 17 Apr Eleanor GLOVER iv) 1701 29 Mch Benjamin so Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married . Married Edith STONE. - NO DETAIL,. Will - Will proved at Blandford in 1757 Will of Benjamin STONE of Wyke Regis, quarryman wife, Edith STONE to have the dwelling house, barns, stables, outhouses and some lands elsewhere in Portland and Causeway, Radipole witness, Thomas ALLEN Buried 1757 14 Apr Ben STONE v) 1703/04 6 Jan Alce do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Married 1726 24 Dec John WHITE & Alice STONE (by Banns) . vi) 1705 26 Dec Agnes do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . vii) 1707/08 18 Jan Ann do Benjamin & Agnes STONE . Died ?? viii) 1710 1

All the info exept White marriage was right as they married Abbotsbury have no idea on William Stones dad only found them by chance when found the white mum living with daughter and family and then found the marriage anything on the Whites would be great trying to find Johns parents siblings ect but with so many Whites on Portland isnt easy,thanks again Kaz

Chloe Thank you SO MUCH for all the brilliant GALPIN information - that's a very great help - lots of confirmation of relationships etc. Chris

Nothing on the reconstructed families (goes up to 1844), or marriages in Portland. How old was he when he married Elizabeth? I can't even find the baptism of William Stone Jnr. The parish church baptism records seem to only go up to 1841, I'm afraid. Sorry I didn't realise..... most of my stuff starts at 1801. Is the White family I found the right one?? There are a few generations back on this CD too, if you want that. What was William's father's name? Might be able to see if there's more info.