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I dont think it is them Steve. on 1861 census given to me yesterday it says mary jones b:c1831 smethcott (wife) Huhben Jones agr lab b:c1836 winstanstow Son-in-law Elenor Harriet Jones b:c1860 Smethcott daughter. i searched for marriage and only found Hugh Jones and mary. what do you think? lesley :~)

Lesley This looks like them in 1881 although Mary and Hugh are much older than you said; Alice Jones abt 1861 Llangedwin, Denbighshire, Wales Daughter Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, England Ann Jones abt 1879 Trefarclawdd, Shropshire, England Granddaughter Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, England Eleanor Jones abt 1861 Trefonen, Shropshire, England Daughter Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, England Hugh Jones abt 1818 Trefonen, Shropshire, England Head Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, England Jane Jones abt 1857 Trefonen, Shropshire, England Daughter Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, England John Jones abt 1853 Trefonen, Shropshire, England Son Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, England Mary Jones abt 1818 Trefonen, Shropshire, England Wife Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, Richard Jones abt 1850 Trefonen, Shropshire, England Son Nr. Fron Fach, Oswestry Rural, Shropshire, ------------------------------------------------------ Does this look anything like them to you?

Adi on the 1901 census, there are only two James Mulvey's born in lancashire within a coupl of years of 1898 and neither has a father called James. There is a James Mulvey, born in Oldham, Lancs in 1892 whose father is also James, but I guess this can't be him? Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Thomas Brady abt 1871 Ireland Boarder Oldham Lancashire Annie Connor abt 1892 Oldham, Lancashire, England Niece Oldham Lancashire Thomas Daley abt 1880 Ireland Boarder Oldham Lancashire Matthew Merrick abt 1877 Ireland Boarder Oldham Lancashire Tom Merrick abt 1881 Ireland Boarder Oldham Lancashire Emily Mulvey abt 1880 Oldham, Lancashire, England Sister Oldham Lancashire James Mulvey abt 1863 Oldham, Lancashire, England Head Oldham Lancashire James Mulvey abt 1892 Oldham, Lancashire, England Son Oldham Lancashire Margaret Mulvey abt 1863 Walsall, Staffordshire, England Wife Oldham Lancashire Mary Ann Mulvey abt 1890 Oldham, Lancashire, England Daughter Oldham Lancashire -------------------------------------------- If I can look any further for you, let me know. Steve

Hi Steve could you please look up on 1871 & after census's for Head: Hugh Jones b:c1836 Wistanstow shropshire Wife: mary Fox b:1831 Smethcott shropshire Daugh: Eleanor/Elenor Harriet b; 1861 Trefonen shropshire. i have them in 1861 living with mary's father John Fox at 60 park lane smethcott shropshire. any other children??? Many thanxs lesley :~)

Beryl There are two possibilities, both in the registration district of Liverpool; Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1895 Aspinall William Liverpool 8b 195 Reilly Thomas Liverpool 8b 195 Roberts Letitia Ann Liverpool 8b 195 Robinson Mary Liverpool 8b 195 ----------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1896 Aspinall William Liverpool 8b 33 Coleman Ada Liverpool 8b 33 McAndrew Michael Liverpool 8b 33 Robinson Mary Liverpool 8b 33

Jane I've had another look using Eliza Jane, but I'm afraid I've had no more luck Steve

Heather Here's the family in 1861, father William is a Blacksmith; Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Ann Coates abt 1827 Scotland Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Elizabeth Coates abt 1859 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire John Coates abt 1856 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Mary Ann Coates abt 1849 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Robert Coates abt 1854 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire William Coates abt 1818 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire William Coates abt 1852 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire and in 1871, a rather large family...William is now a Bedstead Smith, as are Sons William amd John; Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish or Township County/Island View Image Ann Coates abt 1829 Scotland Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Ann Coates abt 1865 Birmingham Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Benjamin Coates abt 1862 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire Elizabeth Coates abt 1859 Birmingham Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Jane Coates abt 1867 Birmingham Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire John Coates abt 1856 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire Mary Ann Coates abt 1849 Birmingham Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Robert Coates abt 1854 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire Thomas Coates abt 1870 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire William Coates abt 1821 Birmingham Head Birmingham Warwickshire William Coates abt 1852 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire If you'd like the images, let me have your e-mail address. Steve

Colin I'm afraid I've not had much luck with Beatrice Mallon. I've looked for the marriage between 1901 and 1909 to no avail, nor are there any Beatrice Mallon's on the 1901 census. There are three unmarried Beatrice Mallen's on the 1901 census, one born in 1899 (and so too young to be married with a child 10 yrs later). The other two, 1875 and 1892 are possibilites, but they are living in Durham and Worcestershire respectively. Beatrice Mallen abt 1899 South Shields, Durham, England Daughter South Shields Durham Beatrice Mallen abt 1875 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Daughter Lye Worcestershire Without finding the marriage or indeed any other information, it's difficult to narrow down.

Alan I'm afraid I can't find a marriage for William at all. I've found the family in various guises on the 1861, 71 and 91 censuses, just in case one of Janes relatives was living with them, but unfortunately not. Sorry Steve

Mary Here are Samuel and Caroline in Breconshire in 1861; Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish or Township County/Island Caroline Smith abt 1809 Rochampton, Surrey, England Wife Llangattock Breconshire Samuel Smith abt 1808 Fineboro, Suffolk, England Head Llangattock Breconshire ------------------------------- 1871, same place; Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish or Township County/Island Caroline Smith abt 1808 Putney, Surrey, England Wife Llangattock Breconshire Samuel Smith abt 1806 Frimbourgh, Suffolk, England Head Llangattock Breconshire ------------------------------------------- And in 1891, daughter Mary Ann is living with them, 60 yrs old and living with both parents! They have some longevity; Smith, Caroline abt 1807 Rockhampton, Surrey Wife Llangattock Breconshire Smith, Mary Ann abt 1831 Putney, Surrey Daughter Llangattock Breconshire Smith, Samuel abt 1805 Finsbough, Suffolk Head Llangattock Breconshire -------------------------------------------- I checked the 1901 but can't see any of them. Steve

Kirsty The marriage record on BMD wouldn't give her parents names, I have had a look though, but I can't see a marriage between a William Ketteringham and an Emma at all. I searched for a birth or an Emma Yeates (all spellings) in Lincolnshire in in 1867 +-5yrs, I looked on the 1871 census for her, all to no avail. Could she have been born elsewhere, or could her name be wrong? Steve

Margaret I've searched from 1875 to 1890 for your Evans Marriage, but there's nothing involving a David and an Eleanor at all. Sorry Steve

Hi Steve, I am wanting to find James Mulvey SNR Born circa 1860-70 with a son James Mulvey Born 1898. James JNR was born in Lancashire so I would have thought in general that dad may be from there as well. Don't Know of any wife/mother's name as yet sorry I can't give you any more info than that. I wait in anticipation for any help you can give me. Thankyou Adi

Thank you for your kind offer. Please could you look for the marriage, probably in the Burscough area of Lancashire, of William Aspinall (born 1873) to Mary Robinson. I can only guess the wedding would have been in the 1890s. Thank you in advance for any help you can give.

Hi Stephen Thanks for looking for my Foreman family Iwent to see my Nan today and the only other thing she could tell me was that Eliza's name was Eliza Jane I don't know if this helps, if not thankyou for all your help. Jane

Hi Steve, Could you look up for me - John Coates of Birmingham, Warwickshire born approx 1855. Son of Ann Coates (1881 census), am trying to find his father (name unknown) mother Ann is a widow on 1881 census - she was born in Aberdeen Scotland. Approx age 1881, 52 - mangle woman by trade. Has brothers and sisters Annie, Benjamin, Jane, Thomas and Martha. Address in 1881, 6 Betholom Row, Birmingham. Any help truly appreciated. Heather.

Hi Steve Sorry me again - but as you've been so helpful already thought I might push my luck! In 1901, John Viall b. c1878 in Manningt(on)tree, Essex was a boarder with the 'Palmer' family (as you have kindly found out), so I assume he hadn't married then. He was married to a Beatrice Mallon in 1909 when my father was born (as per his birth cert) but I cannot find any record to give me a marriage date. If you can offer anything and any info on Beatrice in 1901 I would be extremly grateful. Many thanks again. Colin

Steve you're a star thanks so much

Thanxs anyway steve re:John fox and Eleanor lesley :~)

Hi Steve, Would you be able to find this family on 1861/71 and 91 Census's please. In 1851 they were living in No.2 Platt, Putney, Surrey, but by 1881 had moved to Dany Park Lodges, Llangattock, Brecon, Wales. Samuel Smith b. 1807 Finborough, Suffolk. Gardener Domestic Servant. Caroline Smith b.1808 Putney, Surrey (wife) Regards Mary