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Thanks for your great help Louise

Deborah, this thread is now closed as I have a new one running. Could you please see that thread and let me have a little more info if you have it? Would be useful to have the parents years of births if you know them, I searched for 2 year old Susannah but there was no obvious match. The birth dates of parents would help me to filter out a lot of the rogue matches for them! Louise :O)

Hello Louise, Could you trace Richard james, Rebecca James husband and wife daughter Susannah James about 2 yrs there might be a twin sister we know she died but don't know when of what her name would have been in the 1861 census for the Pontypridd/Lanwonno area in South Wales. Thanks for your help. Debbie

Roderic and everyone, Please can you see my new thread for look-ups etc. I'm finding this format very confusing and would prefer requests by email. It means also I can reply and send you relevant images immediately! Also, any private info doesn't have to be shared on the board. So this thread is now closed and my new thread gives details on how to ask for look-ups! Thanks everyone, Louise :O)

Hi Louise did you have a nice break.Did you have any luck with the Genower's family. Thanks alot Rod

I am away from today until Friday 27th May so won't be able to make any look-ups until I'm back. See you all in a week! :O) Louise

Hi Thanks Louise Like you i think the last death record of Thomas is the best bet i will look into it a bit more. Ann's surname was her maiden name her married name was Simmons. Is there anything there for her? Thanks so much

Hi Louise sorry to muck you around. In 1891 census Edward and Marion Genower also Thomas and Florence Genower. In the 1901 census THe same two couples plus Charles and Ann, William and Fanny also Sarah who is widowed. I received all the images. Many thanks Rod

Good morning, Louise. The John Howard that you found on 1861 could very well be mine? I'm probably putting 2+2 together and getting nowhere but, I wonder if Sarah Rogers could be his Sister maybe? as his eldest Daughter was Jane Sarah. John's occupations in all the other cencuses were general labourer and tanners labourer, so i'll email you for the image and have a look, if that's ok. Thanks everso much for all your help!! All the best, Gaynor xx

Claire, I can only search at Ancestry which has some deaths but they're certainly not complete records. You may also want to try at FreeBMD, but again, they're not complete. Some possible matches found at Ancestry as follows: Name: Simmons, Thomas Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 50 Quarter: December Year: 1873 District: Dartford County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 220 (click to see others on page) Name: Simmons, Thomas Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 70 Quarter: March Year: 1892 District: Malling County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 5_7 (click to see others on page) This looks to be your best bet: Name: Simmons, Thomas Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 77 Quarter: June Year: 1899 District: Sevenoaks County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 410 (click to see others on page) I couldn't find a reference for Ann's death in Sevenoaks - is the surname Medhurst her married or maiden name? Deaths would be registered under her married name of course :O) Louise :O)

Hi Rod, Frederick and wife in 1901 appear in a reply above! I'm probably being very dim, but who do you actually want me to search for in 1891 and 1901? Oh, and did you get the 5 images OK as I sent them all together and it would have been a large attachment! Louise :O)

Hi Louise thanks Can you lookup deaths? If so can you see if Thomas Simmons born 1822 Penshurst Kent appears on there and Ann Medhurst born 1825 Kemsing Kent. They both lived in Sevenoaks where their children and grandchildren etc lwent on to live so i am presuming they would have died in Sevenoaks Kent. Thanks for your help. Claire

Hi Louise thank you so much for all your help. They all fit together it looks like that Frederick Genower remarried because his 1st wife died in 1884 , could you look up his 2nd marriage. As Genower is an unsual name in the 1891 and 1901 census they must all be related to each other could i have a look at the rest of them. Many thaks Rod.

Rachel, the site doesn't let email addresses print in full (see my opening post for a taster!!). Perhaps you could email me directly for the images? I only got the first part of your address in your message :O( Louise

Thanks so much for the Pafford lookups 11/05/05 l have had no internet so only got to see them today, thanks again, could you please email the originals to [email protected] regards Rachel

I have half an hour to spare before I head off to bed if anyone would like a look-up? :O) Louise

Hi Cheryl Ann, I've had no luck I'm afraid. There are some close matches for the daughter, but only if she was living in Wales! Sorry :O( Louise

Hello again Rod, :O) Frederick and James - 1861: Edward John Genower 1846 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, England Son Bethnal Green St Matthew Middlesex Fredrick Cayzer Genower 1848 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, England Son Bethnal Green St Matthew Middlesex James Bromly Genower 1850 London City Son Bethnal Green St Matthew Middlesex John Edward Genower 1808 Wormley, Hampshire, England Head Bethnal Green St Matthew Middlesex Rebecca Genower 1816 London City Wife Bethnal Green St Matthew Middlesex Thomas Alfred Genower 1847 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, England Son Bethnal Green St Matthew Middlesex William Henry Genower 1843 Bethnal Gn, Middlesex, England Son Bethnal Green St Matthew Middlesex Image Ref: Genower 4 1871 - No trace of either 1881 - No trace of Frederick but potential for James below: Archibald Genowerabt 1878 London, Middlesex, EnglandSon Spanby Rd No 6, Bromley St Leonard, London, England Catherine Genowerabt 1876 London, Middlesex, EnglandDaughter Spanby Rd No 6, Bromley St Leonard, London, England Charlotte Genowerabt 1852 London, Middlesex, EnglandWife Spanby Rd No 6, Bromley St Leonard, London, England Hilda Genowerabt 1880 London, Middlesex, EnglandDaughter Spanby Rd No 6, Bromley St Leonard, London, England Jas.B. Genowerabt 1850 London, Middlesex, EnglandHead Spanby Rd No 6, Bromley St Leonard, London, England Image Ref: Genower 5 1891 - No trace of either 1901 - Possibles for James followed by Frederick in 1901 (variant on surname) Alice Ganower abt 1884 Bow, London, England Daughter Barking Essex Archibald Ganower abt 1878 Bow, London, EnglandSon Barking Essex Bertram Ganower abt 1882 Bow, London, EnglandSon Barking Essex Charlotte Ganower abt 1852 Bow, London, EnglandWife Barking Essex Hilda Ganowerabt 1880 Bow, London, EnglandDaughter Barking Essex James Ganowerabt 1850 Ec, London, England Head Barking Essex Louisa Ganowerabt 1892 Bow, London, England Daughter Barking Essex Lydia Ganowerabt 1886 Bow, London, England Daughter Barking Essex Ruth Ganowerabt 1888 Bow, London, England Daughter Barking Essex Eliza Harvieabt 1859 Bow, London, England Sister-in-law Barking Essex Image Ref: Genower 6 Arthur H Genowerabt 1899 Clerkenwell, London, EnglandSon Clerkenwell London David H Genowerabt 1889 Clerkenwell, London, EnglandSon Clerkenwell London Emma E Genowerabt 1847 Shadwell, London, EnglandWife Clerkenwell London Frederick C Genowerabt 1848 Hackney Rd, London, EnglandHead Clerkenwell London Grace P Genowerabt 1880 Islington, London, EnglandDaughter Clerkenwell London Jabez T Genowerabt 1882 Forest Gate, Essex, EnglandSon Clerkenwell London James B Genowerabt 1890 Clerkenwell, London, EnglandSon Clerkenwell London Jessie E Genowerabt 1897 Clerkenwell, London, EnglandDaughter Clerkenwell London John P Genowerabt 1893 Clerkenwell, London, EnglandSon Clerkenwell London May F Genowerabt 1900 Clerkenwell, London, EnglandDaughter Clerkenwell London Image Ref: Genower 7 Will email all images! Louise :O)

Hi Gina, James the younger would have been born too late to show on any census. His father may well have been born too late too (assuming he was say, 25 when his son was born, that would make him born around 1906). I had a look at 1901 for you and there were several James Sharples' born in the late eighteen hundreds in Lancashire. I need a little more info I'm afraid, to filter out the rogue Sharples! :O) Any idea when he may have passed on, and the age he was when he died? At least then we can work out roughly when he was born. But I did find one James Sharples born in Clayton le Moors who might be a link - see what you think.... I think he's too old by far to be the father, but possibly an uncle or even James Senior's father? Alban Sharples abt 1899 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Son Clayton le Moors Lancashire Alfred Sharples abt 1894 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Son Clayton le Moors Lancashire Bernard Sharples abt 1896 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Son Clayton le Moors Lancashire James T Sharples abt 1886 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Son Clayton le Moors Lancashire Jane Sharples abt 1890 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Daughter Clayton le Moors Lancashire Peter Sharples abt 1864 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Head Clayton le Moors Lancashire Peter Sharples abt 1892 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Son Clayton le Moors Lancashire Sarah J Sharples abt 1863 Clayton le Moors, Lancashire, England Wife Clayton le Moors Lancashire Image Ref SHARPLES Hope this helps! Louise

Hello again everyone :O) Sorry, it wasn't Ancestry playing up at all, it was my useless firewall which caused my connection to dip every 5 seconds, so nothing would load for me :O( Anyhoo, all sorted and replaced now, so here we go! Firstly, hello again Gaynor :O) Could this be your John as a visitor in 1861?? John Howard 1838 Croydon, Surrey, England Visitor Croydon Surrey Charles Rogers 1856 Mitcham, Surrey, England Son Croydon Surrey Robert Rogers 1832 Carshalton, Surrey, England Lodger Croydon Surrey Robert Rogers 1852 Mitcham, Surrey, England Son Croydon Surrey Sarah Rogers 1835 Mitcham, Surrey, England Wife Croydon Surrey Image Ref HOWARD 1 Louise x