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hi carol there arent any harper families in gt missenden in 1841 or 1851 could he be in another village? susie

Susie, thanks for trying. I couldn't say where to look for him now, could be anywhere. I suppose you can only search by town is that right? Carol

hi carol yes thats right. they are the actual images for 1841 and surname index for 1851 susie

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Hi Susie You have so kindly provided details for me before, they are falling into place slowly. Some more look ups please for the following: Thomas Alcock (Allcock or Cock) born 1817 anywhere in Bucks John Alcock (Allcock or Cock) born 1809 anywhere in Bucks James Alcock (Allcock or Cock) born 1798 anywhere in Bucks The following could be born and living in Wingrave, are they in 1861 census? Sarah (born 1821) Fanny (born 1823) Isabella (born 1852) Charlotte (born 1856) Many thanks Bryan

And just when you thought i had vanished........... Hi Susie!!!! can you take a look and see if you can find a Henry Hawkes born c 1808 in Bucks. I have him on other census but have not as yet found him with his wife. many many thanks as always xxxxxxxxxxx

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hi bryan 1851 james alcock hd 62 farm lab wingrave hannah alcock wi 61 wing lower end wingrave ---------------------------- thomas alcock hd 34 farm lab wingrave sarah alcock wi 28 heath and reach bedford william alcock so 11 plaiter wingrave henry alcock so 9 plaiter wingrave mary ann alcock dau 3 wingrave samuel alcock so 1 wingrave charles alcock bro 25 fam lab wingrave william alcock bro 16 farm lab wingrave lower end wingrave --------------------- the only john i could find was john cock hd 42 sawyer bierton sarah cock wi 34 bierton nap end wingrave -------------------------- 1861 james bonham head 65 pauper wingrave clara bonham wife 65 pauper wiggington herts fanny alcock daur 38 straw plaiter wingrave thomas alcock son in law 37 sawyer wingrave charlotte alcock g/dau 3 wingrave cottage church row aston clinton wingrave ---------------------------- henry alcock head wid 32 ag lab wingrave charles alcock son 12 ag lab wingrave isabella alcock dau 9 scholar wingrave emma prior housekeeper unm 22 wingrave edward prior son 9mth wingrave wingrave ------------------------- john alcock head 52 sawyer and carpenter wingrave sarah alcock wife 45 plaiter wingrave george bonham nephew 12 ag lab wingrave wingrave susie

hi denise what makes you think i wanna get rid of you lol is this your henry? henry hawkes hd 41 ag lab chalfont elizabeth hawkes wi 40 lacemaker coleshill eliza hawkes dau 14 lacemaker coleshill william hawkes so 8 scholar coleshill sarah burnham lod 15 coleshill coleshill green amersham susie

Bloody hell susie, thats them. Why ever did i not ask you 10 years ago?????????? Thanks so much and yes of course i will be in touch again very soon, but then you already knew that didnt you?????

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Hi Susie Once again you come up with info that gives me more names to go on, you are a real star. Have just realised, having re-read the thread, that I e-mailed Denise on 25/7 re Harriett Alcock. I s there any sign of Harriett in 1851 or 1861 census? Has Denise asked previously would you remember? Thanks again Bryan

hi bryan what age would harriet be? as ive found 2 in 1851 susie

Hi Susie There 2 Harrietts in my tree! Harriett born 1822, daughter of Henry and Rebecca, husband’s name unknown, had daughter born 1848 called Emily. Harriett born 1848, daughter of Thomas and Sarah, married Samuel Higgs. (I have just checked on search and Denise has Harriett born1849 on her tree and also she has Samuel Higgs of Rowsham born 1847 in Rowsham) looks like a match to me. Is there any sign of Edward (surname Cock on 1841 census) born 1823 who married Ann Hedges in 1844, I haven’t found him in Wingrave and wonder if he moved to somewhere else in Bucks. Thanks, you are a real star, Bryan

Hi Susie I know you've looked for him before, but can you have another look for William FLEET & his father Francis FLEET living in Aylesbury in around 1840? I know about Francis (b. 1808) living with Mary Ann in Aylesbury but this appears to be a different Francis Fleet. He was with Esther /Hester I think. Can you check any marriage records around that time too? Work your magic for me!! Cheers Joan x

hi bryan whoops when i gave you the last info harriet was there,i missed her out:( sorry she is the daughter of thomas and sarah as you said. harriett alcock da 3 wingrave she is between george aged 5 and samuel aged 1 sorry. ----------------------------- 1861 sarah alcock head wid 40 straw plaiter bedfordshire william alcock son 21 ag lab wingrave henry alcock son 20 ag lab wingrave george alcock son 15 labourer wingrave harriett alcock daughter 13 plaiter of straw wingrave samuel alcock son 11 labourer wingrave ann alcock daughter 9 scholar wingrave eliza alcock daughter 7 scholar wingrave charlotte alcock daughter 5 scholar wingrave emma alcock daughter 4 wingrave aylesbury road wingrave -------------------------------- i cant find edward anywhere bryan not even in 1851 or 1861 susie

hi joan ive had another look in aylesbury for you but he isnt there. also the only marriage in aylesbury for around that time is for ann fleet and that is in 1848 sorry susie

Never mind Susie I WILL get to the bottomof this one day!!! lol!!! Thought you were on a roll, he might re-appear!! he he!! :0) Joan xx

Hi Susie Thanks ever so much for looking. Apology accepted for omitting Harriett. Have just opened an email from Denise so have been in touch, maybe there will be more names to search in due course. Thanks again Bryan