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Hi Kathryn I've found these two possibilites in the IGI - Do you know who George's parents were? George Edwin Roberts Franklin Male Event(s): Birth: 11 NOV 1858 <St Philip&Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England> Parents: Father: John Franklin Family Mother: Eliza Ann George FRANKLIN Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: About 27 SEP 1857 Philip And Jacob, Bristol, Gloucester, England Parents: Father: Charles FRANKLIN Family Mother: Amelia

Thanks Nikki No don't know who parents were but working on it! Thanks for the info, will follow up these lines. Kathryn

Hi Nikki, I wonder if you could have a look on the 1851 for Robert Spring aged 45 - Tailor born Canterbury, Kent and his wife Suan aged 42 born Dorchester, Dorset and any children they may have with them. Regards Shona

Hi Nikki Wondered if you'd mind looking to see if you can find part of my Robins family in Holcombe, Somerset. Name is also spelt Robbins. William Robins b c.1786 Maria Robins b c. 1786 Silas Robins b 1814 - 1816 Emma Robins b c.1828 Maria Robins b c.1830 All are in Holcombe on 1841 - trying to find out if the two daughters and father are still alive in 1851, as they do not appear on 1861. If so, this would narrow down my search for deaths/marriages, which is proving expensive! Any help will be much appreciated.

Hi Nikki Re Sarah Hatfield born 1846 Preston Gubbals, Shropshire I only need 1861. On the earlier censuses she is with her parents, 1851 at 61 Moxley, Wednesbury, Staffs. She married John Careless in 1864 in Willenhall, Staffs, then lived in Darlaston, Staffs until she died. She was not with her parents in 1861, they were at Dudley Street or Darlaston road, Wednesbury then. Census is hard to read for address. I suppose it is possible that whoever she was living with put her birthplace down as Moxley, Wednesbury or Darlaston? Good Luck! Ann

Shona Any idea which county they were in? Nikki

Nikki, James/Elisabeth Hall were born Marlesford,Suffolk about 1820/1,are living Hanover Square 1871 Census with Ellen 18yrs,Arthur 15yrs both born Surrey-am unable to descipher place.Have been unable to locate the family on 1861 Census. A daughter Alice born Hanover Square about 1858. Help!!. Thank You, Thelma, O.Z..

Hi Nikki, In 1841 they were in East Wells and in 1861 they were in Yeovil. I know they had a child abt 1844 who was born in Paulton. Regards Shona

Hi Nikki I wonder if you could do 1851 Census lookups for my wife's great great grandparents - Edgar William Bowles born c. 1839 in Cheltenham Gloucs. and Emma Mary Miller born c. 1841 in Bath Somerset? By 1861 they are married and living in Middle Ward Cheltenham. Many Thanks Graham

Hi Dorothy Could this be a mistranscribed Sarah? Sarah Harfield abt 1847 Bomor Heath, Shropshire, England Servant Wednesbury Staffordshire Sarah Mick abt 1812 Bilston, Staffordshire, England Wife Wednesbury Staffordshire Timothy Mick abt 1813 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Wednesbury Staffordshire Source information: RG9/2036 Registration district: West Bromwich Sub-registration district: Wednesbury ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Folio: 106 Page: 31 Household schedule number: 156

Hi Shona I've searched high & low for your Spring family with no luck: These are some other SPRINGs that were in the west country though, don't know if any of them could help you research.... SPRING James 34 Baker Wotton / Gloucester SPRING John 69 Farmer Awre /Alvington 51(CD3) SPRING Walter Servant 16 Apprentice Cabinet Maker / Gloucester 5-51(CD3) SPRING Mary Widow/er 46 Landed Proprietor Alvington /Alvington 51(CD3) SPRING Kitty Visitor 21 Painswick / Upton St Leonards 51(CD3) SPRING James Father Widow/er 63 Malt Maker Wotton / Gloucester 5-51(CD3) SPRING Sarah Widow/er 60 Annuitant Gloucester City /South Hamlet51(CD3) SPRING William 24 Police Constable Woolaston / Cheltenham 37-51(CD3) SPRING Giles 56 Baker Wooton Gloucestershire / Cheltenham 20-51(CD3) SPRING Charles 30 Cabinet Turner ??? Cheltenham / Cheltenham 20-51(CD3) SPRING James 30 Police Constable Gloucester City / Cheltenham 37-51(CD3) SPRING Elizabeth Servant 17 Daughters Maid Cheltenham / Cheltenham9-51(CD3) SPRING Francis 31 Gamekeeper Alvington / Lassington 51(CD3) SPRING William 49 Labourer Painswick /Spoonbed Tything 51(CD3) SPRING Henry 55 Widower Publican Wotton / Gloucs St. Catherine 51(CD3) SPRING Daniel 75 Land Surveyor Painswick /Painswick 51(CD3) SPRING John 37 Twine Manufacturer Whitehaven Cumberland / Wotton 51(CD3) SPRING Ellen Servant 13 Painswick / Kington 51(CD3) SPRING Hester Visitor 28 Grocer Charfield / Stone 51(CD3) SPRING Henry 50 Surveyor & Builder Bisley /Painswick 51(CD3) SPRING Sarah Servant 21 Snowshill /Charlton Kings 51(CD3) SPRING John 45 Cooper Wollaston / Castle Precincts (CD4) SPRING ? Mary Visitor 22 Pipemaker Bristol /ST. PHILIP JACOB(CD4) SPRING John Widow/er 32 Shoemaker West Harptree / Bedminster (CD4) SPRING Thomas 30 Butcher Labourer Bristol / St. Paul (CD4) SPRING Caroline Widow/er 51 Straw Bonnet Maker Charfield Gloucestershire \Bath-Walcot 51(CD7) SPRING Ruth Sister in Law Widow/er 81 Family Shop Keeper Litton / Wells, St Cutherbert In 51(CD7) SPRING Elizabeth Widow/er 89 Annuitant London, Middx. \ Walcot Trinity 51(CD7) SPRING------ Mary Servant 46 Servant Wilts / Walcot St. Swithin 51(CD7) SPRING Robert 46 Gardener Poole / Salisbury St. Thomas 51(CD8) SPRING ??? Sarah Servant 20 Kitchenmaid Winterbourne, Wilts. / Salisbury St. Thomas 51(CD8) SPRING Ann Servant 40 House Keeper Lidney / Ramsbury 51(CD8)

Susan Looks like William had died before 1851, assuming this is Maria with married daughter Maria, son-in law & grandaughter? HOLCOMBE 1851 CENSUS Somerset H.O. 107/ 1933 ROBINS Maria Head Widow/er 66 Knitter Kilmersdon, Som. COLES John Lodger Married 28 Miner Kilmersdon, Som. COLES Maria 22 wife Holcombe COLES Angela daur 1 Kilmersdon, Som. Can't find Silas and imagine Emma may have married by `51. Hope this helps Nikki

Thelma Your Hall family seem to have disappeared! I've tried every possible combination to find them in 1861 with no luck. Really sorry! Nikki

Thanks for trying Nikki. Regards Shona

Graham I've searched the whole of Cheltenham & the whole of Bath for them with no success, do you know who their parents were? The main indexes only list the heads of the household. Nikki

Nikki As far as Edgar Bowles is concerned, his father was Thomas Bowles who would have been around 38 at the time of the 1851 Census and Edgar's mother was Ann Bowles - around the same age - no further information on siblings. Thanks Graham

Nikki, could I please have an 1851 Wiltshire lookup. the family could be in Wroughton. in 51 they shd be William Robinson ~42 born Chisledon, Wilt. Hannah Robinson ~ 44 b Ramsbury John Robinson ~21 Mary Robinson ~20 I'm also looking for Hannah's father John Sutton ~68 b Wilt. thank you, Louise

Cas Have replied to your requests via e-mail along with images. Nikki

Jeff No sign of Arthur anywhere I'm afraid. I have found the entry below for a Stephen Masters - age is out somewhat in the transcription, sadly I don't have the images to be able to verify this. CLIFTON, Bristol County, 1851 Census H.O. 107/1952 MASTERS Stephen 63 Chair Prop Wiltshire Dameshire ? Mary 39 Ireland Richard 14 Ireland Maria 12 Scholar Cheltenham Henry 8 Scholar Cheltenham

Hi Graham Could this be Edgar using his middle name? It's the closest match I can find. Nikki HO 107/1973 Part of Cheltenham, Lypiat Street, Hatherley Street, Hatherley Place, Hatherley Lane, Grove Fields, Bennets Farmm Lansdown Road Trool Place. Pages 39 Persons 314 Male 424 Female 738 Total Enumerator George Ellis BOWLES Thomas 39 Carpenter Cheltenham Ann 38 Eastington Louisa 14 Cheltenham William 12 Cheltenham George 11 Cheltenham Walter 6 Cheltenham Emily 2 Cheltenham