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Mike

Mike Report 9 Aug 2005 19:32

Hello again Lesley, hoping to pick your brain again. Can you look on 1861 and '71 census for Emma Daniels b 1851 in Rochford Essex she was on '51 census with her family and i cant see any death reg for her, and there's a marriage on BMD of an Emma Daniels in 1887 in Rochford to either Ephraim Dowsett or William Lewin, Hope i'm not asking for to much but if you can see her with either of them on 1891 census id'e be much obliged. All the best Mike

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 9 Aug 2005 19:04

Your Very Welcome Steve Just shout me when your ready Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 9 Aug 2005 19:03

LOUISE Sorry but there is No record Of any Elizabeth Howard on Pallots Baptism. Lesley :~(

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 9 Aug 2005 19:01

HELEN Im sorry but there is no record for John & Sarah's Marriage & there are no children with those Parents names. Sorry Lesley :~(

Keeley

Keeley Report 9 Aug 2005 16:10

Hi Lesley, thank you for getting back to me. Elizabeth's siblings are : Lilly Allen Ive had a bit of a look around and I believe she might have been born 1903? Ernie Allen dont know the exact date for him but it is in the 1900 Harry Allen c1900 Sam Allen I think he was born 1901. Thank you Keeley

Gaynor

Gaynor Report 9 Aug 2005 11:08

Hi, Lesley. I'd like to say thanks again for finding my Kent's the other day, You've made my Nan very happy indeed!! Could you have a look for the following people on 1901 for me please? Octavius Buss (known as Henry) b 1872 Boxley, Kent His wife; Winifred Buss nee Upfield b 1869 Hastings, Sussex Children; Henry Octavius Buss b 1896 Boxley, Kent Emily Ann Buss b 1898 Boxley, Kent Thomas James Buss b 1900 boxley, Kent *************************** Other children were; Leonard Buss & Winifred Buss but i can't find their births, so don't know if they were born before or after the cencus? Many thanks, Gaynor.

Steven

Steven Report 9 Aug 2005 09:08

Hi Lesley, Thanks for all your efforts on the Walkers yesterday. I only hope I will unearth something new to help with the search but I am not holding my breath. I will of course be back at some point asking for your help again will a different side of the family :-) Thanks again Regards Steve

Louise

Louise Report 9 Aug 2005 08:30

Many thanks for your perseverence Lesley, any chance you could look for a birth entry in Pallots for me? Cheeky I know. Elizabeth Howard b1824 approx in London daughter of John Howard and ? Common names and no particular place in London, although 1861 census did say city of London so maybe thats a clue. Theres probably a dozen.... Thanks for all you've done. Louise

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 9 Aug 2005 00:21

Right Thats It for tonight Will be back on tomorrow to continue searching Goodnight all Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 9 Aug 2005 00:10

LOUISE I wish you had told me the childrens names before it has made it so much easier to find them this time. Here is 1861 For James Brown ADDRESS:Beam?? House.Brook Street.Stotfold.Bedfordshire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>James Brown abt 1818 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Head OCC:Farm Labourer Elizabeth Brown abt 1824 London City Wife OCC:Straw Plaiter Emilia Brown abt 1846 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Daughter OCC:Straw Plaiter Caleb Brown abt 1847 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son OCC:Farm Labourer Fanny Brown abt 1849 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Daughter OCC:Straw Plaiter Jacob Brown abt 1848 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son OCC:Farm Labourer David Brown abt 1855 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son Scholar Rodah Brown abt 1860 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Civil parish: Stotfold County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Source information: RG9/998 Registration district: Biggleswade Sub-registration district: Biggleswade ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Folio: 69 Page: 12 *********************************** 1871 ADDRESS:Brook Street. Stotfold Bedfordshire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>James Brown abt 1828 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Head OCC:Ag Lab Elizabeth Brown abt 1824 London, Middlesex, England Wife OCC:Straw Plaiter Jacob Brown abt 1849 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son OCC:Ag Lab David Brown abt 1856 Stotfold, Bedfordshire, England Son OCC:Ag Lab Rhoda Brown abt 1860 Baldock, Hertfordshire, England Daughter OCC:Straw Plaiter Civil Parish or Township: Stotfold Town: Stotfold County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Source information: RG10/1552 Registration district: Biggleswade Sub-registration district: Biggleswade ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Folio: 92 Page: 18 ********************************** Hope these help Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 8 Aug 2005 23:32

PATRICIA I have found 1 Christopher Benn b:c1823 but Born Westmorland Not Grange oversands Lancashire He is living in Wales in 1861 census & 1891 census both in Anglesey. On 1861 he is Boarding with a family and on 1891 he is the Head with his Wife:Jane...& 1 Son Richard & 1 Daughter Emily. Let me know if you think that could be him & I will get the info for you Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 8 Aug 2005 23:23

PATRICIA 1871 For Richard Benn Lodging with this Family. ADDRESS:Market Place. Market Weighton. Yorkshire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship William Harding abt 1816 Worcestershire, England Head OCC:Boot/Shoe Maker Elizabeth Harding abt 1818 Weighton, Yorkshire, England Wife Frances Boynton abt 1811 Weighton, Yorkshire, England Sister-in-law OCC:Dressmaker.Widow >>>Richard Benn abt 1821 Lowker, Westmorland, England Lodger OCC:I Cant read it sorry. Married? Civil Parish or Township: Market Weighton Town: Market Weighton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Source information: RG10/4760 Registration district: Pocklington Sub-registration district: Market Weighton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 28 Page: 22 ************************************ Cant find any other info for him sorry :~( Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 8 Aug 2005 22:59

PATRICIA 1901 for Robert b:1844 ADDRESS:Outgang.Dearham Cumberland Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>Robert Short abt 1845 Dearham, Cumberland, England Head OCC:Coal Miner Jane Short abt 1842 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Wife John Short abt 1886 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son OCC:Horse Driver Underground...im assuming in coal mines.. Isabella Short abt 1892 Dearham, Cumberland, England Granddaughter Civil parish: Dearham Ecclesiatical parish: Dearham Town: Dearham County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Source information: RG13/4886 Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 145 Page: 30 ************************************ Lesley :~)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 8 Aug 2005 22:52

PATRICIA 1871 for other Robert Short b;c1844 ADDRESS:Outgang.Dearham Cumberland Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>Robert Short Junr. abt 1845 Dearham, Cumberland, England Head OCC:Coal Miner Jane Short abt 1845 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Wife Catharine Short abt 1865 Oaghterside, Cumberland, England Daughter Ann Short abt 1870 Dearham, Cumberland, England Daughter Isabella McArr abt 1866 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Stepdaughter Civil Parish or Township: Dearham Town: Dearham County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Source information: RG10/5248 Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 24 Page: 42 ******************************** 1891 for same family. ADDRESS:Outgang.Dearham.Cumberland. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>Short, Robert abt 1845 Dearham, Cumberland, England Head OCC:Coal Miner Short, Jane abt 1842 Dearham, Cumberland, England Wife Short, Ann abt 1871 Dearham, Cumberland, England Daughter OCC:Coal Miner??? thats what it says. Short, William abt 1872 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son OCC:Driver Short, Richard abt 1876 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son OCC:Labourer at Pottery. Short, Robert H abt 1878 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son Scholar Short, Jane abt 1881 Dearham, Cumberland, England Daughter Scholar Short, Joseph abt 1884 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son Scholar Short, John abt 1886 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son Scholar. Civil parish: Dearham Ecclesiastical parish: Dearham Town: Dearham County/Island: Cumberland Source information: RG12/4310 Registration district: Cockermouth Sub registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 12 Page: 18 *************************** will be back with Christopher Benn If I can find anything on him Lesley :~)

Trishm

Trishm Report 8 Aug 2005 22:39

Hi Lesley I'm going to log off now and sort the dog for his late night abulsions. thanks for looking. I'll tune in tomorrow for the rest. BIG THANKS Trish :)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 8 Aug 2005 22:36

PATRICIA 1881 for Same Family ADDRESS:Craika Ter Cottage, Dearham, Cumberland, Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Robert Short abt 1816 Ellenborough, Cumberland, England Head OCC:Colliery Manager Ann Short abt 1819 Gilcrux, Cumberland, England Wife Ann Short abt 1871 Dearham, Cumberland, England Granddaughter Civil parish: Dearham County/Island: Cumberland Source information: RG11/5181 Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 33 Page: 32 *********************************** I cant find Robert or his Wife on any further census's *********************************** I think this is Roberts Death? Name: SHORT, Robert Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 72 Quarter: September Year: 1888 District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 318 *********************************** This Could be His Wife's Death? Name: Short, Ann Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 71 Quarter: June Year: 1889 District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 373 I will be back in a mo with the rest if I can find them Lesley :~) ******************************** Dearham comes under Cockermouth District.

Trishm

Trishm Report 8 Aug 2005 22:24

Lesley many thanks. you are quick! Trish :)

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 8 Aug 2005 22:19

PATRICIA 1861 For Robert Short b:c1815 ADDRESS: Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>Robert Short abt 1816 Ellenborough, Cumberland, England Head OCC:Coal Miner. Ann Short abt 1819 Gilcrux, Cumberland, England Wife Mary Ann Short abt 1848 Dearham, Cumberland, England Daughter John Short abt 1851 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son Civil parish: Dearham County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Source information: RG9/3943 Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 21 Page: 36 ************************************* 1871 for same family ADDRESS:Dearham Cumberland Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>Robert Short abt 1816 Dearham, Cumberland, England Head OCC:Pit Oreman Ann Short abt 1819 Gilcrux, Cumberland, England Wife John Short abt 1851 Dearham, Cumberland, England Son OCC: Coal Miner Civil Parish or Township: Dearham Town: Dearham County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Source information: RG10/5248 Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 23 Page: 40 I will get other now for you Lesley :~)

Trishm

Trishm Report 8 Aug 2005 22:10

Hi Lesley no problems - you are helping me. Christopher Benn born c 1823 Robert Short snr born c 1815 Robert Short jnr born c 1844 cheers Trish

* Loopy Lesley

* Loopy Lesley Report 8 Aug 2005 22:04

PATRICIA Now its me going to be a pain lol What are the birth yrs for Christopher Benn & Both Robert Shorts...?? Thanxs Lesley :~)