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NEWBIE needs:1871 Gloucester(?) Census Lookup, Ple

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2005 16:36

If this is the marriage reg of Mark's daughter.............. Name: Evans, Julia Record Type: Marriages Quarter: June Year: 1900 District: Northleach County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 870 Brunsdon, Christopher .................then this is the family in 1901 - honestly! Charles Blunsdow abt 1899 Northleach, Gloucestershire, England Son Sherborne Gloucestershire Churlopher Blunsdow abt 1873 Arlington, Gloucestershire, England Head Sherborne Gloucestershire Julia Blunsdow abt 1871 Northleach, Gloucestershire, England Wife Sherborne Gloucestershire Her husband and parents etc in 1881........... Charles W. Brunsdon abt 1874 Notgrove, Gloucestershire, England Son Hampnett Village, Hampnett, Gloucestershire, England Christopher Brunsdon abt 1871 Arlington, Gloucestershire, England Son Hampnett Village, Hampnett, Gloucestershire, England George Brunsdon abt 1867 Ablington, Gloucestershire, England Son Hampnett Village, Hampnett, Gloucestershire, England John Brunsdon abt 1841 Holwell, Oxfordshire, England Head Hampnett Village, Hampnett, Gloucestershire, England Maria Brunsdon abt 1831 Filkins, Oxfordshire, England Wife Hampnett Village, Hampnett, Gloucestershire, England Rose

*Kit

*Kit Report 2 Sep 2005 09:34

Dear Rose, :) You are just wonderful! I'm so sorry if you thought I hadn't appreciated your tremendous work in finding ALL the details you put up on this Thread. Unfortunately, (as I think I said elsewhere on the Thread) I'm an aged invalid person, (in England what you call an O.A.P. -but I'm also 85% incapacitated), and I have two big problems - Poor health and very limited access to the Computer. I know this may sound strange to perhaps younger persons, but the above problems seriously affect and restrict the things I need, and want, to do. So, please Rose, I don't want you to think you were being ignored and that I was ungrateful. Absolutely NOT the case.. Quite the opposite in fact - when I saw all those wonderful entries I was touched to the point of tears. I was, and am, extremely appreciative that you had put so much time and energy into searching for me! :) :) I can tell you, there is NO WAY in the world, I could have done this for, or by myself. I thank you enormously. I also hope that you'll forgive what at first, may have seemed 'rudeness' (on my part), in not having answered you before this. I will send a little 'Thank You' note by PM (private message). to you. And also whilst I'm here at the keyboard, I do want to PUBLICLY answer and thank, Deborah Coone; Margaret Atkinson; Christine Hook; Suzanne Butler; and Sue Moger; and as above, The Last Rose of Winter. Their entries on this Thread are all SO amazing! :) :) I'm only sorry circumstances didn't permit me to thank each and everyone of you wonderful people, on the SAME DAY THAT YOU SO GENEROUSLY found and published these gems of information on my Thread. I did send a little note to Debi but I shall send another to her (PM), to thank for the Census images. As you will all probably have read in the messages on my Thread (above), we're still hunting for Sophia and the children, plus her husband Calvin, all of whom seem to have vanished into 'thin air' for the 1881 Census. I shall be trying to search Scotlandspeople at my first opportunity. I'm frustrated beyond words that it takes me so long to get things done. :( However, I do NOT intend to give up on this. After all, no-body in all the preceding years, to the best of my knowledge, has attempted to do this Research. I think you ALL deserve bouquets - because even if I never find another item of info - I am just SO FAR AHEAD than anyone has been able to achieve, in more than three hundred years. For this, I humbly thank you all, once again. :) :) I need to learn more about Monmouthshire and Wales Censuses. CALVIN Evans trained as a Bell Hanger from the age of 15 years. He married and began his home and family with wife Sophia. It seems however, that by the 1870's Calvin has had to give up Bell Hanging, and revert to simpler, less well-paid work such as whitesmith or tinsmith - so he could remain in Gloucestershire with Sophia and their little children. It appears however, as the number of children increased, so did Calvin's need for more regular income, and better-paid work. He's possibly had to leave home and travel to County Monmouthshire. There he has taken up Lodgings with the Sibbons family. In Monmouthshire, where I understand there were larger industrial companies specialising in heavy iron, copper and tin moulding and founding work, this would seem a natural place for Calvin to seek work. I don't really know - and if there's anyone else in GR who is well familiar with Bell Hanging, and Monmouthshire, perhaps they could let me know more about it, please? I'm assuming that as Calvin progressed beyond the bell hooking (manufacturing of the bells), perhaps he's become 're-promoted' or reverted, to his original profession or trade - i.e. that of a Bell Hanger. Does this suggest to anybody else, that Calvin and other men, would have travelled to help 'Hang' the Bells, in various Chapel, Church, Cathedral Towers, and other Public Buildings in Towns in neighbouring Counties? In which case, perhaps Calvin had been sent to Ireland or Scotland (as Debi suggested) - in order to hang some new Bells - it would be 'nice' to think that Sophia and children had been able to join Calvin (on a 'holiday' ???) whilst he was working with the Bells. Apart from bad mistranscriptions/corruption of surname EVANS, this is all I can think of, to explain the family's apparent absence from County Gloucestershire for the 1881 Census. This might ring bells (no pun intended!!!) amongst other GR members and Readers. Any info., or insights will always be most appreciated. :) My sincere thanks and very best wishes to all, Kindest regards, Kit xxxxxx :) :) Australia Sent: Friday 2nd Sept., 2005.

*Kit

*Kit Report 2 Sep 2005 09:59

For Margaret: Re Old Occupations; Dear Margaret, :) Just wanted to thank you for the referral to Google for Old Occupations. I did go there and found a wealth of information. Adopted your advice... Took the first one. Peeped into a couple that sounded interesting...really thought the Hall Genealogy Website - Old Occupation Names - was just great!! Definitely recommend it - and I loved 'Gareth's Help Page - Occupations' Don't know if I'm allowed to put this up here - but anyway.....!! .... http(://)rmhh(.)co(.)uk(/)occup(/) Is there a specific GR 'Board' where one is supposed to put these items of interest, please? Taking this moment to thank you very much for your kindness. Take care and Best Wishes. Regards, Kit xx :) :) Australia Sent: Fri., 2 Sept., 2005.

*Kit

*Kit Report 2 Sep 2005 10:20

For Christine Hook: Re 1861 for Robert and family; Dear Christine, :) Thank you very much for your hunting up Robert and Ann EVANS and family in 1861. This is very, very much appreciated. It also introduces me to two 'new members' of their family, i.e. George and Mary Ann. Thank you for your kindness, again, and Best Wishes. Regards, Kit x :) :) Australia Sent: Fri., 2 Sept., 2005.

*Kit

*Kit Report 2 Sep 2005 10:33

For Suzanne Butler: Re Calvin & Sophia EVANS and children; Dear Suzanne, :) :) Thank you so very much for the additional info., you found and put up on my Thread for me. This is just amazing, and enormously appreciated!! :) :) You were brilliant to find WILLIAM EVANS on 1881 Census. Yes, I believe it would be 'our' William - he's there as a Lodger in Cirencester, Gloucestershire. He was listed as a Militia Recruit/Agric. labourer. Then you found him on the 1891 Census - in what you thought may have been the 2nd foot regiment. I agree - thought it added up with his slightly older brother Charles - wondered if it may be 2nd Gls regiment? (Second Gloucester Regiment)? Would it be correct to conclude that the 2nd Gloucester Regiment may have been based somewhere near Cirencester, do you know? Many many thanks, for all your brilliant searches and discoveries. Take care and very Best Wishes. :) Regards, Kit xx :) :) Australia Sent: Fri., 2 Sept., 2005.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Sep 2005 10:38

Hi Kit I was concerned only that you might have missed the extra postings..............and I wanted to ensure that you received the info. I'm an OAP myself, so I don't qualify as one of the younger ones, by any means..... ha ha! Enjoy your research................ Best wishes Rose x

*Kit

*Kit Report 2 Sep 2005 11:10

For Sue Moger: Re: Your messages of Mon 29 & Tues 30/8/2005; Dear Sue, Thank you very, very much for your wonderful help finding CALVIN EVANS in Llangattock Vibon Abel, in Monmouthshire, in 1871 Census. Also for your second note re the Wales Census info., I haven't had sufficient time and Computer-access yet, to try to get entry to the Wales Census. Unless it is free-viewing, I shall have to wait until I can ask for a look-up again by some-one who has Ancestry membership. However, to me it's astonishing that you found him there in 1871. Do you know please?, If CALVIN EVANS had remained in Monmouthshire for several years after 1871, and had perhaps died in Monmouthshire, (without ever returning to his Home, in County Gloucestershire).... Would Calvin's Death have been recorded and registered in Monmouthshire or Wales, please??. Or, would I need to try to search England GRO 1837-1901 Registrations, to find a DEATH for Calvin Evans, please? Any advice re his Death records will be very much appreciated. Again Sue, many thanks for your kind help. Best Wishes. Kind regards, Kit x :) :) Australia Sent: Fri., 2nd Sept., 2005.

*Kit

*Kit Report 5 Sep 2005 04:48

For: LOUISE On The Meridian Line: Dear Louise, Here's hoping you'll see this on the Thread. Thank you so much for adding your note. Very much appreciated. Yes, you're absolutely right! I have been so blessed by the wonderful GR Experts with my endless questions and queries. They are incredibly kind, generous, and their expertise takes my breath away. This is why I call them 'My Lookup ANGELS' - and I can't thank them sufficiently, I feel. I was most interested in YOUR problem. I've printed out your message. I visited a couple of sites on the Internet, just browsing and searching for various clues. None materialised! :( Eventually I left an enquiry with the Glouc. Family History Society, re the 1881 Census. Yes I DO appreciate how difficult a Forename-Only Search, can be - Tried the same thing - hunting for Sophia (Lophia, Tophia) all possible variation on the theme!! - also looked for all 'Calvin'. Also looked for all 'Charlotte', on the 1881 as a whole: All counties - All districts etc., then on yet another refined/narrowed search: All districts of County Gloucestershire. No luck!! And in my humble opinion Louise, if these amazing Genea Wizards cannot find them on the 1881 - then I feel I must think about searching Ireland. No record of them in Scotlandspeople. Apart from the above - I might have to concede defeat......Perhaps I'll put a note in for the 1881 'blank period', that the entire family 'Took a Flight in a Spaceship while the 1881 Census was being conducted'!!! [LOL :) :) ] When, of if I receive a reply from GFHS, I could send you a note by PM (Private Message) if you are interested and haven't had any success over next two or three weeks. A PM, because if I add something here on this Original Thread, you may not think to pop in and see what's doing - therefore you could miss my note. All for now - fingers crossed for you with Thomas and Sarah, and me with Sophia and Calvin and children in 1881. :) :) Again, thank you and Best Wishes. Kit :) :) Australia Sent Mon 5 Sept., 2005