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TRUDY Here is 1871 ADDRESS:19 Cant read street sorry.Hackney London Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Charles White abt 1839 Clapton, Middlesex, England Head OCC: Engine Driver Railway. Jane White abt 1830 London, Middlesex, England Wife >>>William Topp abt 1855 Islington, Middlesex, England Stepson OCC:Groom. >>>Jane Topp abt 1857 Islington, Middlesex, England Stepdaughter Scholar >>>Ellen Topp abt 1859 Stepney, Middlesex, England Stepdaughter Scholar. (Deaf) >>>Henry Topp abt 1861 Lambeth, Surrey, England Stepson Scholar. >>>Elizabeth Topp abt 1863 Lambeth, Surrey, England Stepdaughter Scholar. Charles White abt 1869 Shacklewell, Middlesex, England Son Civil Parish or Township: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton St Barnabas County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG10/327 Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Folio: 29 Page: 51 I hope this is them Thanxs for 'Awesome' lol I wouldnt go that far lol but thanxs :~) Lesley :~)

LYNN Sorry I couldnt help you with your kirby's If you need anything else just shout Lesley :~)

RONALD This is James Birth Name: Naylor, James Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1859 District: Sheffield County: South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 349 There is only 1 marriage showing for James Naylor in 1873 Sheffield making him 13...there are 3 men and 2 women on page and none are Mary... I will take a look elsewhere and get back in a moment Lesley :~) UPDATE No sorry cant find any marriage in Sheffield for James & Mary sorry :~(

Hi Lesley I'm pretty sure the 1871 info is them, so would be grateful for the image - thanks. As you say, I will order the birth cert for Henry and take it from there. You have been so helpful and thorough in your look ups - I know I speak for others when I say you are AWESOME !! We do appreciate it !! Regards Trudy

MARGARET IN LANCASHIRE Your welcome for 1861 :~) Sorry Pallotts Marriage pre-1837 only covers London and I have not got access to anything else pre-1837 sorry Lesley :~(

MARGARET BALL....THELMA & CLIFF Thanxs for your Thanxs its nice to know the look ups are appreciated and help put another piece of the jigsaw together for you. If you need anything else just shout and I will gladly take a look Regards Lesley :~)

TRUDY I already looked for Ellen on 1881 and cant find her...yes 1881 taken 3rd April.. On 1871 with Possible Step-Father she is 12 yrs old. Do you want that info for reference incase its her? I would suggest you send for Henry's Birth Certificate and get Parents names... Lesley :~)

Evening all lmao John ok Ironing it is lol Lesley :~)

good afternoon ma'am housework no probs rabbits easy peasy daughter to school thats going to far can i do extra iroing instead your servant john

hi lesley looking for marriage of a james naylor in 1881 census he was 21 years ol d his wife mary was 20 years old they were living at ct 1 h1 rough bank sheffield and if possible the birth of james naylor any help much appreciated ron

Hi Lesley, Many thanks for 1861 details. Any sign of a marriage for Elizabeth ? and Thomas Winterbottom before 1837 yet? Don't know where they married, Yorkshire or Lincolnshire. They are not showing on LDS. Thanks again, Margaret X

Lesley, Many Many Thanks for your assistance,it is appreciated. My Regards, Thelma.

Hi Lesley, A great big thank you, you are a gem. I will have to see about getting all my certificates now. I am almost certain they are my family. you do not know how much I appreciate all you have done. Good health and happiness to you and your family. Kind regards Margaret .

Hi Lesley - mmm interesting ! Maybe I should send for Henry's birth cert to get the parents names as he is definitely Ellen's brother. I know Ellen was born in 1859. If that is her with stepfather in 1871 she would have been 12, does it state her age ? Also if her mother was Jane does that make it easier to find her birth (father George) in Kensington or Kennington ? How about looking for her on 1881 census - I know she married in June 1881 but believe census was in April ? Sorry to rattle on, just thinking as I'm typing. If you can answer any of those questions I would be so grateful, but understand it may be a pain. Thanks so much .... Trudy P.S. had no idea she was deaf !!

RIGHT Im off to bed now I will be back on Tomorrow and continue with searches. Goodnight all Lesley :~)

FRANCES Your very welcome.. Glad you now have some new info...isnt it exciting :~) If you need anything else just ask and I will gladly take a look for you Lesley :~)

TRUDY Sorry I have been so long but they are hard to trace I Have had another look at the 1901 Census I gave you before for Harry & Emma & when I looked on census I think his name says Henry.C..... Not Harry.C.. So I checked birth info and found this. Name: TOPP, Henry Charles Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1861 District: Lambeth County: Greater London London Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 344 Lambeth Created 1st July 1837. In Surrey until 1889. Sub-districts : Brixton; KENNINGTON; Kennington First; Kennington Second; Lambeth Church; Lambeth Church First; Lambeth Church Second; Norwood; Stockwell; Waterloo Road; Waterloo Road First; Waterloo Road Second. GRO volumes : IV (1837-51); 1d (1852-1930). Lambeth. Registers now in Lambeth district. ************************************* I Have found a Birth for an Ellen Topp in Same place BUT its yr 1865.... I Have found 1871 with a Henry & Ellen Topp (States she is Deaf) they are Step Children including 3 other Siblings to Charles White & Wife Jane living in Hackney London. Could this be them do you think???? Its the closest I have come to finding them..... Lesley :~)

MARGARET BALL Here is 1901 For David & Eleanor & Children. ADDRESS:10 Union Street. Aberdare Glamorgan Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>David Evans abt 1852 Llanwynio, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head OCC:Miner. Elenor Evans abt 1860 Trefdraeth, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Maria Picton Evans abt 1890 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Sarah Evans abt 1892 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter David G Evans abt 1895 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Civil parish: Aberdare Ecclesiatical parish: St Fagan County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Source information: RG13/5035 Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Aberdare ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 17 Page: 25 ************************************* 1891 For Same Family ADDRESS:12 Union Street.Aberdare.Glamorgan Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house >>>Evans, David abt 1853 Llamminnis, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head OCC:Coal Miner. Evans, Eleanor abt 1860 Newport, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Evans, Maria P abt 1890 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Civil parish: Aberdare Ecclesiastical parish: St Fagans Town: Cwmdare County/Island: Glamorgan Source information: RG12/4443 Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub registration district: Aberdare ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 50 Page: 15 Living in Same street maybe Related? 1891. ADDRESS:7 Union Street.Aberdare.Glamorgan. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Evans, Evan abt 1854 Cilrhedyn, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head OCC: Coal Miner. Evans, Catherine abt 1853 Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Evans, David abt 1880 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son ********************************************** Cant find them on 1881 sorry But hope these help Lesley :~)

Lesley thank you once again. Would it be possible to do an 1881 and 1891 census look-up for David Evans and Eleanor Evans nee Davies because it seems to be the right Marriage in 1876. They lived in Trecynon, Aberdare. i think. I am so greatful for all you are doing for me. Thank you again, Margaret.

FRANCES I think this is them in 1861 ADDRESS:13 Rhodes? Terrace. Bradford Yorkshire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship William Craven abt 1828 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Head OCC: Harriet Craven abt 1830 Bfd, Yorkshire, England Wife Henrietta R Craven abt 1852 Bfd, Yorkshire, England Daughter Fred Craven abt 1856 Bfd, Yorkshire, England Son Charles D Craven abt 1858 Bfd, Yorkshire, England Son John W Craven abt 1860 Bfd, Yorkshire, England Son Susen Sharp abt 1838 Shelf, Yorkshire, England Servant Civil parish: Bradford Town: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Source information: RG9/3317 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Bradford East End ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 28 Page: 9 ************************************** Heres 1871 for them with more Children. & His Mother. ADDRESS:Horton Yorkshire Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship William Craven abt 1828 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Head OCC:Manager at a Worsted Manufactory. Harriet Atwood Craven abt 1831 Bowling, Yorkshire, England Wife OCC:Household Duties. Henrietta Ruth Craven abt 1852 Bowling, Yorkshire, England Daughter Fred Craven abt 1856 Bowling, Yorkshire, England Son OCC:Worsted Weaver. Charles Drake Craven abt 1858 Bowling, Yorkshire, England Son John Williams Craven abt 1860 Bowling, Yorkshire, England Son Harry Craven abt 1862 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Son Francis Amelia Craven abt 1865 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Louisa Mercy Craven abt 1866 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Herbert Craven abt 1869 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Son Mercy Craven abt 1793 Shipley, Yorkshire, England Mother Widow. Civil Parish or Township: Horton Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Source information: RG10/4476 Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Horton ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Folio: 53 Page: 9 Hope this helps Lesley :~)