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Hello Jess, I have been tracing the footsteps of John Potter b 1831 in Pocklington E York but, so far unable to locate in 1861 census. He would have been married by that time to Olive Brightwell in 1856 in St Mary Lambeth but I am unsure where he would have been living. My guess is either Middlesex or Yorkshire. His mother was Ellen Potter but either she was unmarried or I have not found his father as yet. Many thanks Diana

Diana - do you have 1871- can you post it please

Hi Jess - Thanks for the offer. I have Thomas Bushell b. 1801 wife Mary and family living Halsall, Lancs on 1841 census, living Stannaught Bldgs, Liverpool 1851 census but have no trace after that. Amongst the above family is son Nathan b. 1836 who married Margaret Porter in 1855 in Liverpool. I have lost track of both these two families in 1861. By 1871 Nathan and Margaret have moved to Jarrow, Co Durham and I have them there. Thomas & Mary I imagine could have died by 1871. Are you able to trace either/both these families in 1861 ? I would be most grateful for any help you can give. Thanks again

Hi Jess - Thanks for the offer. I have Thomas Bushell b. 1801 wife Mary and family living Halsall, Lancs on 1841 census, living Stannaught Bldgs, Liverpool 1851 census but have no trace after that. Amongst the above family is son Nathan b. 1836 who married Margaret Porter in 1855 in Liverpool. I have lost track of both these two families in 1861. By 1871 Nathan and Margaret have moved to Jarrow, Co Durham and I have them there. Thomas & Mary I imagine could have died by 1871. Are you able to trace either/both these families in 1861 ? I would be most grateful for any help you can give. Thanks again

looby - you could have said in the first place. will do the others first then come back to you

Margaret - this must be your 1871- the whole thing helps with clues as to where they were in 1861-i would guess L'pool SORRY- HAVE LOOKED AND LOOKED AGAIN! 1871 James Bushell abt 1864 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham John Bushell abt 1859 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham Margaret Bushell abt 1840 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham Mary Ann Bushell abt 1860 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham Nathan Bushell abt 1837 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England Head Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham Thomas Bushell abt 1862 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham William Bushell abt 1870 Jarrow, Durham, England Son Hedworth Monkton and Yarrow Durham

Looby- lets have the whole lot in 1881 with birth places then Alfred J.F. Claydon abt 1873 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England Emily A. Claydon abt 1877 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Daughter Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England Fanny A. Claydon abt 1848 Windsor, Berkshire, England Wife Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England Hannah Claydon abt 1874 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Daughter Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England James Claydon abt 1851 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Head Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England James W. Claydon abt 1879 Wimbledon, Surrey, England Son Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England .................................................. Alfred J. Knightley abt 1851 Windsor, Berkshire, England Brother in Law Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England Sarah J. Knightley abt 1852 Brighton, Sussex, England Sister in Law Wandle Bank 5 Wandle Bank Bldgs, Wimbledon, Surrey, England

Jess - thank you for that. It confirms what I already had re Nathan and Margaret's family in 1871. From the dates and places of births of the children, it seems that they were still in Liverpool up until 1870 when youngest child William born. Are you able to trace them on the 1861 or Nathan's parents Thomas and Mary in Liverpool? I would be happy if you could possibly trace them, but don't worry if you can't. Thanks again, Margaret

Looby 1861 James and his family View Record Ann Claydon abt 1820 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Eton Buckinghamshire James Claydon abt 1851 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Son Eton Buckinghamshire James Fisher Claydon abt 1822 Belandon, Essex, England Head Eton Buckinghamshire John Claydon abt 1860 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Son Eton Buckinghamshire William Claydon abt 1859 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Son Eton Buckinghamshire Source information: RG9/852 folio 45 p28 Registration district: Eton Father was a coachman address Eton Place ------------------------------- also 1861 Baby Not Christened abt 1861 Windsor, Berkshire, England Son New Windsor Berkshire Alfred I Keightley abt 1851 Windsor, Berkshire, England Son New Windsor Berkshire Emily Keightley abt 1842 Windsor, Berkshire, England Daughter New Windsor Berkshire Fanny A Keightley abt 1848 Windsor, Berkshire, England Daughter New Windsor Berkshire Francis I Keightley abt 1855 Windsor, Berkshire, England Son New Windsor Berkshire James Keightley abt 1813 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Head New Windsor Berkshire Rosa M Keightley abt 1846 London, Middlesex, England Daughter New Windsor Berkshire Sarah Keightley abt 1821 London, Middlesex, England Wife New Windsor Berkshire 74 Peascod(?) hse their father was a publican Source information: RG9/760 folio 31 p 7 Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ---------------------------- arthur 1871 View Record Arthur Keightley abt 1863 Windsor, Berkshire, England Son Clewer Berkshire View Record Francis Jas Keightley abt 1860 Windsor, Berkshire, England Son Clewer Berkshire View Record James Keightley abt 1813 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Head Clewer Berkshire View Record Sarah Keightley abt 1820 Lambeth, Surrey, England Wife Clewer Berkshire ------------------------------------------------ 1891 Claydon Claydon, Alfred James E abt 1873 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son Hackney London Claydon, Annie abt 1883 Wimbledon, Surrey, England Daughter Hackney London Claydon, Emily A abt 1877 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Daughter Hackney London Claydon, Fanny A abt 1849 Windsor, Berkshire, England Wife Hackney London Claydon, Hannah abt 1874 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Daughter Hackney London Claydon, James abt 1851 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Head Hackney London Claydon, James W abt 1879 Wimbledon, Surrey, England Son Hackney London Claydon, Rosa abt 1887 Hackney; Wick, Middlesex, England Daughter Hackney London ----------------------------------- he is a carpenter by now cant read address Source information: RG12/207 folio 193 p 83 Registration district: Hackney Sub registration district: South Hackney ------------------------------ 1901 Alfred J F Claydon abt 1873 Birkenhead Son Hackney London Annie Claydon abt 1883 Murton; Wimbledon Daughter Hackney London Emily A Claydon abt 1878 Birkenhead Daughter Hackney London Fanny A Claydon abt 1849 Windsor, Berkshire, England Head Hackney London Francis J Claydon abt 1893 Hackney, London, England Son Hackney London Rosa Claydon abt 1887 Hackney, London, England Daughter Hackney London fanny is a widow address 9 wallis rd Source information: RG13/233 folio 168 p 53 Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: South-East Hackney

Looby - I am a little irritated yes. You asked for look up before 1881, which is what i have done. Not done 1901 yet but working on it -it does take time- have spent about an hour on it as you can see. You made it so hard for me, by just posting surnames, no christain names i had to look all that up (for reference) myself- you had that info but didnt volunteer it YOU seem irritated that i needed all the info in order to do what you asked me to! as the very first thing i looked up WAS the wrong family it does go to show that it is the detail that makes the look up sucessful

Jess. Sorry just got back. RE.my previous request Ref.George Robson..1881 census Mike

Michael cant find that 1881 for ref- do you have the ref number or other family members names/or the address please

Diane- can you post that 1881 please- i cant find it

nudge- info from posters please

Hi Jess, do you mean the ref number etc? Sorry - fairly new to all this 1871 census parish-St Mary Town-Twickenham County-Middlesex RG10/1315 Reg district -Brentford ED3 Folio 76 P.41 Household schedule - 213 GSU number 838782 wasnt sure if you meant e mail the actual page to you ? many thanks - Diana

Diana- no thats fine, bear with me, Added by Diana Perryman on 14/10/2005 20:51:05 Hello Jess, I have been tracing the footsteps of John Potter b 1831 in Pocklington E York but, so far unable to locate in 1861 census. He would have been married by that time to Olive Brightwell in 1856 in St Mary Lambeth but I am unsure where he would have been living. My guess is either Middlesex or Yorkshire. His mother was Ellen Potter but either she was unmarried or I have not found his father as yet. Many thanks Diana 1871 = RG10/1315 Reg district -Brentford ED3 Folio 76 P.41 for ref:- still 1871 Beilly Potter abt 1858 Plumstead, Kent, England Son Twickenham Middlesex = BILLY Ellen Potter abt 1870 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Daughter Twickenham Middlesex Frederick Potter abt 1857 Pocklington, Yorkshire, England Son Twickenham Middlesex John Potter abt 1831 Pocklington, Yorkshire, England Head Twickenham Middlesex John I Potter abt 1868 Silverstone, Essex, England Son Twickenham Middlesex Olive Potter abt 1834 Chatham, Surrey, England Wife Twickenham Middlesex Olive I Potter abt 1869 Twickenham, Middlesex, England Daughter Twickenham Middlesex Robert W Potter abt 1865 Pocklington, Yorkshire, England Son Twickenham Middlesex Robert Walking abt 1826 Pocklington, Yorkshire, England Cousin Twickenham Middlesex ---------------------------------- will return to this later - not given up yet, but they are playing hard to get!

Thanks Jess, I really appreciate your time. John is my GG Grandfather. I was over the moon when i found him but have had no luck in 1861 or 1851. Still a bit of a dead end tho as he has no father listed on IGI. I sent off for the original baptism transcript to see if the father is on there. I await with bated breath ! :-) Diana

Julie - you'll have to look on 1837 for that, you'll need an idea when he died though

Diana - I am having little success - been thru every flippin olive ever born i think . when they do dane to appear they are going to be wildly mistranscribed me thinks. will keep looking but off to the new house again at 3pm- (trying to be optomistic!) Jess ------------------------------------------------ going about it the long way, trying to think logically... Olive + Wife = 680 odd returns ......................................................... Olive + Wife born 1834 +/- 5 = 84 returns. ......................................................... as above + Chatham (B/P) = 2 (below) Frances Olive Delling abt 1834 Chatham, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Kingston on Thames Surrey Hus =thos jon Olive Mendham abt 1838 Chatham, Kent, England Wife Minster in Sheppey hus = Wiillaim daugh Emmaline ....................................................................

Helen - your first request is difficult age/birth year don't tally - Maria Jane Gunnell in Shoreditch. Born in 1842, so she would be about 60. < is she 60 or born 1842? Hope this is Rosina Agnes E Blakely abt 1897 Greenwich Daughter Lewisham London Frederick Blakely abt 1899 Greenwich Son Lewisham London Henry Blakely abt 1872 Charlton, Kent, England Head Lewisham London Jane Blakely abt 1873 Finsbury Wife Lewisham London Thomas W Blakely abt 1895 Greenwich, Kent, England Son Lewisham London Arthur Simpson abt 1881 Greenwich Visitor Lewisham London Rosina Simpson abt 1882 Greenwich Visitor Lewisham London She is a general servant. Is Arthur her brother?