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Thanks Tracy, just read you reply, had to go out earlier, David

Hi Tracy, Please could you look up any info for: Thomas Phillips abt 1797 born in Braiding IOW Hampshire married in 1829: Frances Jolliffe abt 1792 born in Shorwell IOW Hampshire children: Amelia Phillips abt 1830 born Kingston(e) IOW Hampshire Charles Phillips abt 1832 born ? John Phillips abt 1834 born Carisbrooke IOW Hampshire Regards Viveka

Hi Tracy Thanks for the possible deaths of John Oliver. The Last thing I have on him is 1901 age 51 Gravesend. Thanks for Looking Jane.

I think that would be best. There are 4 on Lancs BMD. In 1891, they're down as Ryding. He's a Pipe fitter on there.

Do you think it is best to write the liverpool record office with both details and hope that both of them don't have a father called Joseph. I can't think of anything else apart from the latterday saints website...which I will do now. Thanks for all your help Lynn

Not in Lancashire, but she may have come from elsewhere, but that's unlikely. You have a choice between the Lodger and the Daughter. It's very difficult with names like Elizabeth. There's hundreds of them.

OhHHHwahhh! I thought I had them then. So you think it is the family at the bottom from 1881and there are no other Josephs as heads living with a daughter Elizabeth? Will have a look at the 1881 census Cheers lynn

Lynn, I'm sorry. I have confused you. The family that fit perfectly are from 1881. 20 years too early to be yours I'm afraid. I'll have a look for Elizabeths near any Evans' I found these two... Jas Evans abt 1865 Bel Foreign Subject Head Manchester Lancashire Mary Ellen Evans abt 1863 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Manchester Lancashire Agnes Evans abt 1897 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire

I bow down to your search skills yet again. Now the issue is which one is her?...I looked at my wedding cert again and there is a witness MARY ELLEN EVANS and james Evans. Could this be her sister Mary Ellen in the census? and she has married an evans. I will do a search on marriages in Lancashire between 1881 and 1905 to see if there is a match with her sister. Fingers crossed again...here we go.. Cheers Lynn

Lynn, I found this lot... Joseph RIDING Head M Male 53 Lpool, Lancashire, England Gas Fitter Susanagh RIDING Wife M Female 54 Lpool, Lancashire, England Mary Ellen RIDING Daur U Female 27 Manchester, Lancashire, England Sarah Jane RIDING Daur U Female 21 Lpool, Lancashire, England Tob Cavendish Maker Elizabeth RIDING Daur U Female 19 Lpool, Lancashire, England Cigar Maker Susan RIDING Daur U Female 16 Lpool, Lancashire, England Dressmaker Catherine HOLDEN Boarder U Female 17 Lpool, Lancashire, England Just a shame it's 1881 lol There's this one in 1901 Elizabeth Riding abt 1884 Lodger Manchester Lancashire Also, this one, which is more likely... Elizabeth Riding abt 1856 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Pendleton Lancashire Elizabeth Riding abt 1884 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Pendleton Lancashire Joseph Riding abt 1856 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head Pendleton Lancashire (Carpenters Labourer) Sarah Williamson abt 1833 Manchester, Lancashire, England Mother-in-law Pendleton Lancashire

Mhairi, I can't see them anywhere either. They were hiding well that day lol

Sorry Anne, but I have no records to be able to check between 1901 and 1920. I can only check addresses for information of people, and BMDs.

Now this is a real mystery because I only have a marriage cert to go off and don't know where people were born which makes it really difficult to find her in the 1901 census. So here goes... Elizabeth Riding married in Dec 1905 aged 22, to William ward (Plainer) living in church street, Chorlton in Manchester. her father is called Joseph riding and he is a gasfitter I would bow down in awe if you solved this one! Lynn

Hi Tracy, Just as I thought. I have a feeling that these two didn't marry until after her first husband's death which I think I have found in 1886 9c 211 March qtr, Sheffield!!!!! I couldn't find it either. Thanks for looking for me. Margaret

Margaret, you're not gonna like this, but I can't find one lol Could they have married outside Yorkshire?

Hi Tracey! It is definately him...thanks for your help. Podmore is mis-spelt hence I couldn't locate him. What it does mean is that when his first wife died - Martha (allegedly 1864) he didn't mess about getting married again. So I will now search to see if there is amarriage between 1864 and 1871. Fingers crossed Lynn

Hi Tracy, Thanks for looking for the marriage of Charles Poole and Ann Wright. Perhaps you could try to find Ann Wright's 2nd marriage to Walter Rodgers for me please. Their 1st child was born 1874 in Sheffield, so I am presuming that, if they did marry, it would be before that time. Regards, Margaret :-)

Lynn, how about this one? Daniel Podman abt 1800 Sandon Head Sandon Staffordshire Jane Podman abt 1814 White Haver, Cumberland, England Wife Sandon Staffordshire Anna Podman abt 1827 Sandon Daughter Sandon Staffordshire Georgenia Maccelester abt 1862 Hanley Granddaughter Sandon Staffordshire Henry Phillips abt 1819 Milwich Lodger Sandon Staffordshire Death Dec 1876 Podmore Daniel 77 Stone 6b 20

Hi Tracey, Yes please help! Missing person in 1871 census. Searching for Daniel Podmore born 1799 in sandon, Staffs and he died 21 Nov 1876 in Sandon, Staffs. His wife Martha died before the 1871 census so that line of enquiry doesn't help. His children have all grown up too! In 1861 Census he is living with his wife Martha his child Ann who is 35 and some lodgers. His occupation is gardener on this census (labourer on his son's marriage cert ) 1861 referenceRG9 1911 page 139 residing in sandon, staffs Can you find him? Thanks in advance. Lynn

Anne, what are you wanting to find out?