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☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 11:10

No promises, but I will have a go for you. I only have access to England and Wales. Anything from the censuses, 1861-1901 (a few 1841) and BMDs 1866-1920. Please post here, and I will reply in order of those received. NOTE: I can only answer between 9AM and 5PM most days.

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 Oct 2005 11:15

Yes, oh yes:- John Casson Shirtcliffe born 1849ish probably in Sheffield! I can find his marriage to Sarah Howson in Rotherham in 1870 and his death but no birth and no sign of him on the census! Any help gratefully received! Julie xxx

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 11:18

You'd think with a name like that, he'd be easy to find lol Leave it with me. I'll do some digging :) Is this his wife in 1891? Shirtcliffe, Ann E abt 1871 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Nether Hallam Yorkshire Shirtcliffe, Frank abt 1878 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire Shirtcliffe, Fredk abt 1876 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire Shirtcliffe, Harry abt 1883 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire Shirtcliffe, Jno C abt 1874 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire >> Shirtcliffe, Sarah abt 1852 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Head Nether Hallam Yorkshire

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 Oct 2005 11:25

Hi Tracey, you'd think so wouldn't you but I can't find him at all! Yes that's his lot! Good luck and thanks! Julie xxx

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 Oct 2005 11:33

Hi babe ! Here's a mystery for ya ! How come when I do a search on 1851 it throws up the 1861 census results ? lol NOT !! I'm looking for Betty (Elizabeth) Shawcross on the 1851 please. She was born 1790 ... the 1861 says she was born Aspall, lancs.... living in North Moels, Lancs. Trying to find out if hubby John Shawcross b 1783 was still alive and with her ! Elaine :-)

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 11:42

Elaine, how about Shawcroft :) Image could be Shawcross. Mathers Borow abt 1821 Wigan, Lancashire, England Servant Ince Lancashire Ann Pendlebury abt 1822 Athudley, Lancashire, England Daughter Ince Lancashire John Pendlebury abt 1850 Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Grandson Ince Lancashire Betty Shawcroft abt 1790 Aspall, Lancashire, England Head Ince Lancashire Ellen Shawcroft abt 1824 Ince, Lancashire, England Daughter Ince Lancashire George Shawcroft abt 1828 Ince, Lancashire, England Son Ince Lancashire Margret Shawcroft abt 1827 Ince, Lancashire, England Daughter Ince Lancashire Sarah Shawcroft abt 1832 Ince, Lancashire, England Daughter Ince Lancashire John Warde abt 1838 Athudley, Lancashire, England Grandson Ince Lancashire Julie, I'm stumped so far lol

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 Oct 2005 11:49

Your my best friend Tracy :-))))) Yep, thats them .... and you have confirmed a load of kids that I wasn't 100% sure about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have just seen your reply to the other thread ... with addy for 1851 ... will go and try it ! (THANKS) THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU XXXXXXXXXXXXX Me :-)

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 Oct 2005 11:51

OMG ......and the MARRIED names of the daughters !!!!!!!!!!!! You DARLIN !! You've just got my tree growing again ! Calm down Elaine ..... breath ..... LOL ! Elaine :-)))))))

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 11:56

Julie, I have tried everything I know and I can't see him anywhere. I'll try Wales, just in case... nope. The only thing I could find was Sarah with baby Ann in 1871 :( Ann Howson abt 1824 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Head Sheffield Yorkshire William Howson abt 1850 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Sheffield Yorkshire Thomas Howson abt 1855 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Sheffield Yorkshire James Howson abt 1857 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Sheffield Yorkshire Frank Howson abt 1859 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Sheffield Yorkshire Sarah Shirtcliff abt 1852 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Sheffield Yorkshire Ann E Shirtcliff abt 1871 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Sheffield Yorkshire Unless this is him in 1871... John Shirtliffe abt 1852 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Lodger Sheffield Yorkshire He's down as an unmarried Coal Miner. 1881 Ann and Fred? Ann Howson abt 1825 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Head 76 Mathew St, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Jno. Howson abt 1856 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son 76 Mathew St, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Jos. Howson abt 1861 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son 76 Mathew St, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Ann Hinscliffe abt 1871 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter 76 Mathew St, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Fred. Hinscliffe abt 1875 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Grandson 76 Mathew St, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Thos. Boald abt 1858 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Lodger 76 Mathew St, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Karen

Karen Report 10 Oct 2005 12:16

hi I was wondering if you could find the marriage of a Margaret Jenkins who I believe married in the September quarter 1854 in Carmarthenshire. I tried on Ancestry but couldn't find out who she married. Any help appreciated. Thanks Karen

Unknown

Unknown Report 10 Oct 2005 12:17

Ann and Fred are probably mine but not the John Shirtcliffe miner cos his marriage cert says he was 19 in 1870 so would have been born 1849 ish! Thanks for looking though you are a star! Julie xxx

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 12:19

Karen, is it the one in Lampeter? Looking at the image the page could be 56a, which would imply John Morgans, but I would need more details about her to check.

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 12:39

Louise, John didn't marry Sophia until after the 1861 census... Susannah Shipton abt 1796 Shellow Bowells, Essex, England Head Willingale Doe Essex John Shipton abt 1827 Willingale Doe, Essex, England Son Willingale Doe Essex Hannah Clements abt 1845 Good Easter, Essex, England Servant Willingale Doe Essex Sophia White abt 1838 Wilingale, Essex, England Lodger High Ongar Essex Isabella White abt 1857 Wilingale, Essex, England Lodger High Ongar Essex Fredrick White abt 1859 Wilingale, Essex, England Lodger High Ongar Essex Alice White abt 1860 High Ongar, Essex, England Lodger High Ongar Essex Marriages Sep 1861 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Shipton John Ongar 4a 91 WHITE Sophia Ongar 4a 91 Births Jun 1859 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- White Frederick William Ongar 4a 71 1871 John Shipton abt 1827 Willingale Doe, Essex, England Head High Ongar Essex Sophia Shipton abt 1838 Willingale Doe, Essex, England Wife High Ongar Essex Frederick Shipton abt 1859 Willingale Doe, Essex, England Son High Ongar Essex Caroline Shipton abt 1863 High Ongar, Essex, England Daughter High Ongar Essex Louisa Shipton abt 1865 High Ongar, Essex, England Daughter High Ongar Essex Harry Shipton abt 1866 High Ongar, Essex, England Son High Ongar Essex Elizabeth Shipton abt 1868 High Ongar, Essex, England Daughter High Ongar Essex William Shipton abt 1871 High Ongar, Essex, England Son High Ongar Essex Isabella S Shipton abt 1856 Willinggale, Essex, England Servant High Ongar Essex

Karen

Karen Report 10 Oct 2005 12:45

Sorry Tracy It is Margaret Jenkins married September quarter 1859 not 1854 in Carmarthenshire, Dyfed. Thanks Karen

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 12:48

Ahh, ok Karen. In that case, I can't help I'm afraid. There are no others transcribed from that page. You will have to either order the cert, or wait for freeBMD to transcribe it.

Steve

Steve Report 10 Oct 2005 12:58

Hi Tracy i think i have asked before but can you look up american census for an address. i thinks its sy sichell st. los angeles My percy moon disappeared around 1910 - 1920 over to america i have his father Joseph going out in 1913 his mother and daughter going out in 1919 but can't find percy going out anywhere the went to los angeles from liverpool and came from Preston, Lancs if you can't do America sorry to waste your time

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 13:02

Sorry Steve, I don't have my American access anymore. Costs too much lol

Steve

Steve Report 10 Oct 2005 13:03

Ok thanks anyway Steve xx

Waveyone1

Waveyone1 Report 10 Oct 2005 13:11

looking for info on my grandmother...........Maud julletta Hammond married Frank Gimber May 14th 1914 in Kent aged 21........... fathers name Matthew James Hammond who was a painter, Frank died in 1918 but cannot find any info on maud befor or after the marriage

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy

☼ Orangeblossom ☼ - Tracy Report 10 Oct 2005 13:13

Waveyone, was she a spinster when they married?