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Please give as much detail on your person(s) as possible. Cheers Ellen.

dear ellen, could you please look up the birth of a andrew mcdonald born around 1872ish in scotland,also the marriage of andrew macdonald to annie morrison around1894-98 also in scotland thanks suexx

Hi Sue There are literally hundreds of Andrew McDonalds in Scotland! Can we narrow it down a little - do you have any of his parents/siblings names or any other info at all from other sources? Regards Ellen.

Sue Scotlandspeople(.)co.uk Remove the brackets. Has what must be the marraige - 1894 in Inverness. Andrew McDonald to Isabella Ann Morrison If you haven't used it before, it costs £6.00 for 30 credits. One credit will let you view the search result and a further 5 will give you the actual image of the cert. So a total cost of £1.20 - and instantaneous, unlike the English/Welsh system! The certificate will give you the names of both parents for each, along with the mothers' maiden names and the fathers' occupations. Well worthwhile spending the cash. We will then be able to pin both families down on the 1881. Regards Ellen.

thanks ellen, i have looked for them on scotlands people but run out of credits before i came to the right ones, ive also traced them to liverpool they had a 3yr old child issabella(my g greatgrandmother i think.ive got a death cert for an andrew mcdonald age 36 who died in the southern hos liverpool on xmas day 1908 but have to match up the family as no next of kin where mentioned on the cert thanks for your help sue

Hello Ellen: Thanks for your offer - wonder if you could manage a couple for me. HELEN FAIRBAIRN (aka FRATER or FRATTER) b Apr 1864 in Dunbar. unmarried and aged 16-17 by 1881. Possibly Haddington or Tranent areas. MARGARET TURNER age 28 husband Robert. Probably Innerleithen or Walkerburn in Peeblesshire. Many thanks. Gordon.

Hey Ellen When you have time could you look for Peter and Marion Cockburn both born in 1819. Living in the Edinburgh area. Thanks Mhairi

Hi Ellen Thans for the offer iam trying to find William Gardiner c1870 I know his parents were janet and William although i dont know much more than that so if you cant see anyone dont worry. Lynda

Hi Ellen S ........ Coincidence ??? I'm looking for: Ellen S Johnson b 1859 (November 12th) Hutchesontown, Glasgow. Elizabeth S Johnson b 1861 (June 24th) Hutchesontown. I know the family were in Dundee in 1866 ... and the father of the above girls was back in Manchester England 1881...a Widower...without them :-( I don't know IF either of the girls married at all .... (Middle name S = Smith in both cases) Fingers Crossed ... and thanks in advance ... Elaine :-)

Hi Elaine Have loked for yours first as they were in the north and that was the cd I had in the puter. This is the closest Elizabeth, although I have another one to check out on the other cd. This list shows all Elizabeth Johnsons in the UK, born in Lanarkshire (Glasgow's county). No sign of Ellen anywhere, with any spelling of Johnson/Jonston(e), so she may have married by then. I'll have a quick look on sp for you. Dwelling: F C Manse Census Place: Rattray, Perth, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203514 GRO Ref Volume 389 EnumDist 1 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Adam ROSS M 67 M England Rel: Head Occ: F C Minister Isabella K. ROSS M 59 F Govan, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: F C Minister Wife Margt. K. ROSS U 27 F Rattray, Perth, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: F C Mininsters Daughter Jane R. ROSS U 25 F Rattray, Perth, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: F C Mininsters Daughter Elizabeth JOHNSTON U 20 F Coatbridge, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Servt Occ: General Domest Servt JOHNSTON, Eliza Wife <1858> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Eliza Dau <1858> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Wife <1858> Lana Lana JOHNSTONE, Elizabeth Wife <1858> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elisabeth Vist <1859> Lana Renf JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Dau <1859> Lana Lana JOHNSTONE, Elizabeth Wife <1859> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth J. H. Dau <1860> Lana Lana JOHNSTONE, Eliz. Wife <1860> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Bord <1861> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Wife <1861> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Serv <1861> Lana Pert JOHNSTONE, Elizabeth Dau <1861> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Vist Wife<1862> Lana Hadd JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Sis <1862> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Dau <1862> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth W. Serv <1862> Lana Lana JOHNSTONE, Elisabeth Serv <1862> Lana Lana JOHNSTONE, Elizabeth Dau <1862> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth D. Dau <1863> Lana Lana JOHNSTONE, Elizabeth StDau <1863> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Eliza Dau <1864> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizabeth Dau <1864> Lana Lana JOHNSTON, Elizth. SisL <1864> Lana Ayr I'll get back to you. And to everyone else. Just changing discs. Ellen.

Hi Elaine Nope - the other Elizabeth was living with a widowed mother, so can't be your girl. There are 17 marraiges in Scotland 1877-1881 for Ellen Johns(t)on(e) - take your pick! Your SR Marriages Search Returns You searched for: Male Surname: ''; Use Male Soundex: Off; Male Forename: ''; Female Surname: 'JOHNS*ON*'; Use Female Soundex: Off; Female Forename: 'ELLEN*'; Year From: 1877; Year To: 1881; Page 1 of 1 (17 records) No Year Surname (M) Forename (M) Surname (F) Forename (F) District City/County/MR GROS Data 1 1877 MOFFAT JAMES JOHNSON ELLEN SANDSTING AND AITHSTING /SHETLAND 009/00 0005 2 1880 ARROL ROBERT JOHNSTON ELLEN ST GILES EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/04 0341 3 1879 BOYLE ROBERT JAMES JOHNSTON ELLEN CAMBUSNETHAN /LANARK 628/00 0006 4 1877 CARRUTHERS WILLIAM JOHNSTON ELLEN COLVEND /KIRKCUDBRIGHT 861/00 0008 5 1878 DUNLOP GEORGE JOHNSTON ELLEN ST GILES EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/04 0058 6 1881 LOUDON JOHN JOHNSTON ELLEN TWYNHOLM /KIRKCUDBRIGHT 883/00 0004 7 1879 MCKEE JAMES JOHNSTON ELLEN AUCHINLECK /AYR 577/00 0023 8 1879 POTTER JOHN HENRY JOHNSTON ELLEN MARYHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 622/01 0075 9 1881 STRACHAN JOHN JOHNSTON ELLEN DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0195 10 1881 WELSH JAMES JOHNSTON ELLEN LANGTON /BERWICK 747/00 0004 11 1877 BROWN DAVID JOHNSTON ELLEN FOX GORBALS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/12 0559 12 1877 MACKINTOSH ALEXANDER JOHNSTONE ELLEN PETTY /INVERNESS 106/00 0006 13 1877 MCINTOSH ALEXANDER JOHNSTONE ELLEN PETTY /INVERNESS 106/00 0006 14 1879 REAY JAMES JOHNSTONE ELLEN GRETNA /DUMFRIES 827/00 0001 15 1878 SMITH WILLIAM JOHNSTONE ELLEN ST ANDREW EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0062 16 1877 BROWN DAVID JOHNSTONE ELLEN FOX GORBALS GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/12 0559 17 1881 KERR JOHN JOHNSTONE ELLEN JANE DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0060 Not much help tonight I'm afraid! Regards Ellen.

Hi Gordon Got Margaret. Helen a bit more difficult. these are the only Helen's born Dunbar - both ages wrong. No sign of a Frat(t)er. Dwelling: 3 Shore Street Census Place: Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224025 GRO Ref Volume 706 EnumDist 5 Page 13 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John FAIRBAIRN M 38 M Cockburnspath, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Fisherman Helen FAIRBAIRN M 34 F Cockburnspath, Berwick, Scotland Rel: Wife Janet FAIRBAIRN 12 F Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar John FAIRBAIRN 10 M Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Margaret FAIRBAIRN 9 F Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Willam FAIRBAIRN 7 M Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Helen FAIRBAIRN 5 F Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland Rel: Daur David FAIRBAIRN 3 M Dunbar, Haddington, Scotland Rel: Son Dwelling: High St Census Place: Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224034 GRO Ref Volume 762 EnumDist 2 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert TURNER M 27 M Newlands, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Masons Lab Margaret TURNER M 27 F Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Darner (Woollen) Thomas TURNER 4 M Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar John TURNER 1 M Innerleithen, Peeble, Scotland Rel: Son Regards Ellen.

Mhairi No Peter or Marion Cockburn. Could either of these Mary's be yours? Maybe some of the family members will ring a bell? Dwelling: Dean St. No 1 Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0223994 GRO Ref Volume 685-1 EnumDist 120 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary COCKBURN W 64 F Edin, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Seamstress Ann MATTHEW 30 F Inchture, Perth, Scotland Rel: Visitor Mary Ann COCKBURN 2 F Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Granddtr James COCKBURN 7 m M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Grandson Dwelling: 17A Lady Lawsons Wynd Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0223990 GRO Ref Volume 685-1 EnumDist 14 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary COCKBURN W 61 F St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Mary MC GHIE M 29 F St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Masons Wife Alexander COCKBURN U 24 M St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coach Painter Helen COCKBURN U 19 F St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Niece Occ: Cook Domestic Servant John HERON U 20 M St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Fidlestring Maker Regards Ellen.

Hi Lynda No Williams with William and Janet parents. But two with Janet as mother and no father in the house: Dwelling: New St Census Place: Beith, Ayr, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203592 GRO Ref Volume 581 EnumDist 5 Page 12 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Martha GIBSON W 75 F Beith, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Head Janet GIBSON U 40 F Beith, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: White Thread Worker Maggie GARDINER U 16 F Beith, Ayr, Scotland Rel: G Daur Occ: Polisher Of Thread Martha GARDINER 14 F Beith, Ayr, Scotland Rel: G Daur Occ: Knotter Of Thread William GARDINER 11 M Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland Rel: G Son Occ: Scholar Dwelling: 3 Boden Street Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203632 GRO Ref Volume 644-1 EnumDist 86 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Janet Burns GARDNER W 50 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: (Head) Occ: Proprietress James GARDNER U 22 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Stationers Clerk Mary Black GARDNER U 20 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Annie Burns GARDNER U 15 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: La... In Print Work Janet Brown GARDNER U 13 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Message Girl Wm. GARDNER U 11 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth GARDNER U 7 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Good luck. Ellen.

Hi again Sue If Andrew and Annie had a daughter Isabella - then that makes the 1894 marraige in Inverness look even more attractive. Next time you've got spare cash I'd go for it - you'd get so much info to take you further back. Regards Ellen.

Hi Ellen, As Meatloaf might have said: 'One out of two ain't bad!' :) Very many thanks indeed, Gordon.

Hi Sue I've succumbed - again - and got the cert for the 1894 marraige. It COULD be your couple, but the ages are a bit higher than you expected. this Andrew would have been born 1864/5. what evidence led you to believe he was born 1872ish - just the age at death? Depending on who gave the info to the registrar that may not be quite accurate. If it is them, this is each of them in 1881 with their parents: Dwelling: 12 Private House Census Place: Fearn, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203408 GRO Ref Volume 064 EnumDist 6 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James MC DONALD M 63 M Tarbat, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Carter Davidina MC DONALD M 59 F Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Donald MC DONALD U 23 M Fearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Carters Son Ann MC DONALD U 21 F Fearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Housekeeper Andw. MC DONALD U 17 M Fearn, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Carters Son Dwelling: Inaclete No 30 Census Place: Stornoway, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203415 GRO Ref Volume 088 EnumDist 7 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Norman MORRISON M 46 M Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Shoemaker Anne MORRISON M 47 F Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Wife Bell Ann MORRISON 14 F Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar George N. MORRISON 12 M Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Macintosh MORRISON 6 M Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Kenneth MORRISON 2 M Stornoway, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Son Do any of the family names or occupations look familiar? If you would like a copy of the image, send me a pm with your e mail address and I'll send it to you. Hope this helps Regards Ellen.

Lynda One more possible on the other disc. Jessie is often used as alternative to Janet in Scotland. Dwelling: Crosshill St Stevensons Land Census Place: Campsie, Stirling, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203537 GRO Ref Volume 475 EnumDist 7 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Jessie GARDNER W 38 F Killearn, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Teacher In Public School William GARDNER U 14 M England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar David GARDNER 10 M England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Richard GARDNER 5 M Lennoxtown, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Son Best of luck. Ellen.

Ellen, THANK YOU. Not sure what to make of it all !!!!! phew, quite a bit of info there ! I'm not sure about Elizabeth - with her surname . Thanks ever such a lot ... really appreciate your help. Elaine :-)

thanks ellen i will have a look at those and see what i can find many thanks lynda