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Hi Tracy, Can you possibly check 1841 and/or 1851 for the following families:- (1) 1841 Nr Patricroft and 1851 Wigan William Lancaster B c1812(maybe Bury) Colliery Proprietor Wife Elizabeth (Betty) Lancaster B c 1811 (Irlam, Lancs) Children Mary Ann B c 1830 Patricroft Edward B 1832 Rachel B 1833 Radcliffe, Lancs Hannah B 1841 Patricroft William Henry B 1848 Wigan Amelia B c1851 Wigan (2) 1841 census if possible for Poss. RADCLIFFE, LANCS John Lancaster DOB n/k Wife Rachel Lancaster DOB n/k Children John B 1816 Radcliffe James B 1820 Radcliffe Mary B 1823 Radcliffe Joshua B 1833 Bury Sarah B 1834 Radcliffe Robert B 1836 (3)1841 census if possible for LIVERPOOL George Blount Iron Merchant DOB n/k Wife Hester Blount DOB n/k Children George Henry Blount B 1825 Liverpool Agnes Blount B c 1828 Liverpool Any confirmation and additional information would be greatly appreciated. THANK YOU. Pat up in Edinburgh

On his marriage certificate it states his father was Charles Lane, deceased, coachman. It seems strange that theres's no birth record nor does he appear on previous census records which does indicate he had another name. I don't know where to go from here with this:( Bev

Yes, but if she married after he was born, he would have taken that name in the next two censuses. She might've been the Lane. So when he came to marry, he reverted back to her name. I have quite a few who did that. Still doesn't explain why there's no birth record for him, but it may be that he was never registered. It wasn't compulsory till 1875.

If a child was illegitamate wouldn't he have taken the mother's name?I've got no hope in finding him when the 1911 census comes out either as he left his children after his wife died (around 1906) as was said to have 'run away to London!' Bev

Bev, I'm still looking :) How annoying that he's nowhere before 1901. I'm wondering if he was illegitimate, and his mother married after he was born, which is why we can't find him on the censuses. Charles Lane, Coachman is a popular person, as you can see from the few I found lol

Thanks again for your help, Tracy, I'm really grateful. His marriage was definitely 1896 to Sarah Baker Wilson. That and the 1901 census info is all I can be absolutely sure about. I'm beginning to think I'll never find him. I think the birth must be Crewkerne but I couldn't find it. Bev

Tracy Thanks for the help. I am glad its not just me that is confused by this family. Perhaps I will have more luck when I get back the marriage cert. for Benjamin Ward and Mary Sharp. The dates all seem a bit off to me maybe there is some sort of family coverup. If you come across any more information to help I would be most grateful. regards kathy

Bev, I've been looking for the John Lock marriage, and found one to a Jane Randle. She's a servant in 1871, in Clifton Gloucestershire. I'm not sure how they're related. OOOhhhh!! 1891 Lane, Charles H abt 1847 Llanigan, Breconshire, Wales Head Holy Cross and St Giles Shropshire Lane, Mary abt 1848 Warpole, Somerset, England Wife Holy Cross and St Giles Shropshire Lane, Charles C abt 1876 Huntspil, Somerset, England Son Holy Cross and St Giles Shropshire Lane, Rose E abt 1878 Wenvoe, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Holy Cross and St Giles Shropshire Lane, Sydney A abt 1882 Glasbury, Radnorshire, Wales Son Holy Cross and St Giles Shropshire Births Sep 1875 LANE Charles Cuthbert Bridgwater 5c 390 Charles Snr is a Coachman. 1881 Charles Lane abt 1847 Llanigon, Breconshire, Wales Head Mary Lane abt 1848 Warpole, Somerset, England Wife Charles C. Lane abt 1876 Huntspill, Somerset, England Son Rosa E.M. Lane abt 1878 Wenvoe, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Maeslough Stables, Glasbury, Breconshire, Wales 1901 Rosanna Lane abt 1827 Warwickshire, England Head Glasbury Radnorshire Charles H Lane abt 1848 Llanigon, Breconshire, Wales Son Glasbury Radnorshire Mary Lane abt 1848 Wapole, Somerset, England Daughter-in-law Glasbury Radnorshire Rose E M Lane abt 1878 Wenool, Glamorgan, Wales Granddaughter Glasbury Radnorshire Oh, I don't believe it! Marriages Jun 1902 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Barson Annie Eliza Chapel le F 7b 1479 Hartle Eliza Hannah Chapel le F. 7b 1479 Hartle Elizabeth Hannah Chapel Le F 7b 1479 Lane Charles Cuthbert Chapel le F. 7b 1479 Sykes Charles Knowles Chapel en le Frith 7b 1479 I did find Crookham though .... http://web.ukonline.*co.uk/badeslade/somerset3midi.html It's Crookhorn. Near Ilchester and Ilminster. Most likely comes under Yeovil district. Ohh - I think it's Crewkerne! That comes under Chard.

Kelly, my records only go up to 1920, and there is no records of a marriage (other than the one to Elizabeth) before that.

Janice, I don't know what you want me to do. I have looked and I couldn't find anything. Why not ask the GRO to have a look. They will charge you, but at least you'll know either way.

No Kathy, I can't. I'm very puzzled by them.

Jeremiah married Mary Fleming in England we think but it could have been in Wales? Theres no real proof that they were ever married? We know he was previously married to a lady called Elizabeth HodgKiss and they had a child called Kate E . My nan would love to know if he was still married to this lady when meeting his mum or had she died? I believe Mary was 50/51 when she died in 1943 so that would have made her birth year 1891/92!! there was a lady on this website who found a possible birth of Mary Ann Fleming in June 1895 BATH 5c 572...?? thanks kelly

Pauline, I'm wondering if Elizabeth married a Bibby? I can't find any other marriages for a Timothy Forshaw to an Elizabeth.

tracey I think I found benjamin Ward 1875 on 1891 census as a lodger. The age and occupation are correct but it says born Lambeth. I could not find Catherine can you?

oh Bev :( I'll try again :)

Thanks for that. I wish it were this one but he too is listed on the 1901 census as still living with his mother in Bedminster, Bristol. It's a complete mystery to me. Bev

Pauline, Marriages Sep 1869 BIBBY Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 320 FORSHAW Timothy Liverpool 8b 320 are you sure about her name? There are 3 possibles in 1861.

Susan, where was he born? or who were his parents?

Andrea, since he wasn't registered until Dec qtr, he won't be on the census which was taken in April. I can't, however, find him anywhere on the censuses except 1901.

Bev, he must've been confused! 1881 Chas. Lane abt 1839 Blagdon, Somerset, England Head Jane Lane abt 1835 Lepworthy, Somerset, England Wife Ann Lane abt 1867 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Henry Lane abt 1869 Bassett, Derbyshire, England Son Emily Lane abt 1870 Bassett, Derbyshire, England Daughter Sarah Lane abt 1871 Bassett, Derbyshire, England Daughter Chas. Lane abt 1873 Wavertree, Lancashire, England Son Martha Mc Laughton abt 1814 Workington, Cumberland, England Lodger 32 Orford St, Wavertree, Lancashire, England 1891 Lane, Charles abt 1839 Taunton, Somerset, England Head Bedminster Somerset Lane, Jane abt 1836 Selworthy, Somerset, England Wife Bedminster Somerset Lane, Annie abt 1867 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Bedminster Somerset Lane, Ismeny abt 1869 Rossett, Denbighshire, Wales Son Bedminster Somerset Lane, Sarah abt 1871 Rossett, Denbighshire, Wales Daughter Bedminster Somerset Lane, Charles abt 1873 Liverpool; Wavertree, Lancashire, England Son Bedminster Somerset