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hi Tracy..looking for census 1861 John Smith / Ann Smith both ages 45 Liverpool..children sarah scott smith 11yrs..william 16yrs and a few more......thanks Joanie

hi tracy, thanks for this,hopeing you might have fresh eyes and can help sort out my elusive JOHN BELTON.we have been searching now for over 6 years and nothing has turned up yet,i will give you everything we know, but it isnt much, so good luck and believe me i can hear others moaning oh no not john belton again,at one point there was 11 of us looking and he still wouldnt come out of hiding,ok here goes, JOHN BELTON..... wasnt born we cant find birth cert, but from marridge cert he was born about 1881, marrdige cert, was 27 may 1901,says he was 19 years old and living at 12 COMPTON PLACE,PANCRAS,his was a coach smiths labourer, his fathers name was SAMUEL BELTON, down as mechanical engineer, he married FLORENCE HOOK aged 18 living at 29 HANDEL STREET, father frederick hook deceased, was book binder,we found JOHN BELTONS DEATH, cert says died 25 OCTOBER 1937, died at 1 bexley lane which we know was a hospital at that time but address given was 25 JOHNSON STREET, PANCRAS, NW1,, info given on death cert was from M.D. We contacted the hospital but there is no records of him there at all, we know him and florence had kids,JOHN, JACK,VIOLET, MAUD,ANNE ,KATY,TILLY,TEDDY,ADA,DAISY, We have no mother for john, and cannot find a father that would tie in with him on any census,cant find no war records, no birth cert,hoping and fingers crossed you have more luck than us, good luck with this one, if you can give us anything it might get us on right track even something after his marridge in 1900 , as they arent on 1901 census anywhere either,thanks for taking time to read all this, let alone trying to find them ,

Chris, I found the Charles, Bricklayer, in 1851 but there is no William with him. I've looked for William, but I don't know London very well, so I don't know what might be near Bentley Heath.

Hi Tracy, could I ask for a Surrey '51 look up please? Looking for John Brown and wife Charlotte. Son George was born 1819 so I'm guessing John and Charlotte were probably born before the turn of the century. Thank you, Rebs

Sorry Claire, I thought you'd have her in '91... Wheeler, Annie abt 1843 Bracknell, Berkshire, England Head Portsea Hampshire Wheeler, Frank T abt 1872 Aldershot, Hampshire, England Son Portsea Hampshire Barron, Minifred abt 1886 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Granddaughter Portsea Hampshire Painter, Fanny abt 1869 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Servant Portsea Hampshire Hanson, Sarah abt 1873 Birmingham Servant Portsea Hampshire Stratton, Minnie abt 1872 NK Servant Portsea Hampshire Squibb, Louisa abt 1871 Southsea, Hampshire, England Servant Portsea Hampshire Hill, Mary abt 1865 Fareham, Hampshire, England Servant Portsea Hampshire Merndy, Emily abt 1867 Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Servant Portsea Hampshire Wright, Charles abt 1871 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Servant Portsea Hampshire

Jane, the address is No 8 Alfred Place. The only place Williams death will be is FreeBMD. If it's not there, I can't find it.

Hi Tracey Thank you for your help. it is interesting that Sarah took her Mother's new married name. Claire

JJ, I found one born 1870 and one born 1881. Can't find any other John James' born between. Unless he wasn't registered with a middle name? Birth Sep 1874 Sells John Marylebone 1a 560 The only John Sells coming up in 1901 of the right age is the one you have.

Hi Tracy, thank you your a angel you have helped me again. have a nice day regards June

Susan, can't help with Lazarus, but how about this for Evan? 1901 John Davies abt 1858 Wales Head Camberwell London Elizabeth Davies abt 1857 Wales Wife Camberwell London Evan Davies abt 1885 Bethnal Green, London, England Son Camberwell London John is a Provision Merchant (whatever that is lol)

Joanie... Ann Smith abt 1816 Lanarkshire (Glasgow), Scotland Wife Higher Bebington Cheshire Ann Smith abt 1847 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Higher Bebington Cheshire Fanny Smith abt 1859 H Bebington, Cheshire, England Daughter Higher Bebington Cheshire John Smith abt 1815 Lower Bebington, Cheshire, England Head Higher Bebington Cheshire Lydia S Smith abt 1854 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Higher Bebington Cheshire Margaret H Smith abt 1852 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Higher Bebington Cheshire Sarah S Smith abt 1850 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Higher Bebington Cheshire William Smith abt 1845 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Higher Bebington Cheshire

Kim, nothing for John yet, but I did find these births... Birth Jun 1920 Belton Violet M Hook Pancras.1b 244 Birth Dec 1917 Belton Daisy Hook Pancras.1b 110 Birth Jun 1915 Belton Ada M Hook Pancras.1b 138 Birth Dec 1912 Belton Edward Hook Pancras.1b 152 Birth Mar 1910 Belton Ada Matilda Belton Katherine Pancras 1b 79 Belton Alfred George Pancras.1b 1 Birth 3 1905 Belton Frederick Albert Pancras.1b 23 Birth 2 1905 Belton Thomas James Pancras.1b 115 Birth 2 1905 Belton Charles William Pancras.1b 26 Birth 3 1903 Belton Maud Florence Pancras.1b 58 Birth 4 1901 Belton Florence Pancras.1b 119 Birth 2 1901 Belton Maud Florence Pancras.1b 12 Birth 2 1901 Not sure which ones of the last bunch are yours.

Rebs, there wasn't a Charlotte married to a John, and there were hundreds of Johns in Surrey. Do you know anything else about him?

lol! Absolutely nothing Tracy. John and Charlotte are listed as Georges parents on his death entry in Vic BD&M. George gave his birth place as Surrey on the birth entry of one of his children. Not a lot to go by. Thanks for trying anyway. Looks like it's back to the drawing board........again! Rebs x

Frances, no kids in 1901 John H Cox abt 1849 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Head Bradford Yorkshire Annie E Cox abt 1857 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Wife Bradford Yorkshire Eliza Casterton abt 1880 Malborough, Yorkshire, England Servant Bradford Yorkshire 1861 Robinson Pelling abt 1818 Morton, Yorkshire, England Head Bradford Yorkshire Emma Pelling abt 1824 Gt Horton, Yorkshire, England Wife Bradford Yorkshire Annie Eliza Pelling abt 1856 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bradford Yorkshire 1871 Robertson(Robinson) Pelling abt 1820 Maxton, Yorkshire, England Head Horton Yorkshire Emma Pelling abt 1824 Horton, Yorkshire, England Wife Horton Yorkshire Annie Pelling abt 1857 Horton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Horton Yorkshire Clara Pelling abt 1863 Horton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Horton Yorkshire Lydia Pelling abt 1865 Horton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Horton Yorkshire

Cerys, 1901 Nathaniel Hudson abt 1863 Felling, Durham, England Head Heworth Durham Ellen Hudson abt 1867 Felling, Durham, England Wife Heworth Durham Margaret Hudson abt 1891 Dudley, Northumberland, England Daughter Heworth Durham Mary Hudson abt 1893 Dudley, Northumberland, England Daughter Heworth Durham Nathaniel Hudson abt 1895 Jarrow, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Eliza Hudson abt 1897 Felling, Durham, England Daughter Heworth Durham Edward Hudson abt 1899 Felling, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham 1891 Hudson, Nathaniel abt 1862 Felling, Durham, England Head Longbenton Northumberland Hudson, Ellen abt 1867 Windy Monk, Durham, England Wife Longbenton Northumberland Hudson, Margaret E abt 1891 Dudley, Northumberland, England Daughter Longbenton Northumberland

hope I am not asking too much some have tried for me and not found them hope you can. I have a couple married in September 1869 St Pancras can not find either on either the 1871 or 1881 census have not tried any others seems pointless. Their names are John Thomas Keen and Sarah Emily Keen (nee)Sigston he was born 1850 shoreditch she was born 1851 Regents park which I think became St Pancras would appreciate it if you can find them anywhere at all it says on marriage cert he is a labourer. Thanks a lot No have not really looked for children as the name Keen is so common and not finding them on the census dont really know where to look sorry

Valerie, do you know if they had any children?

Tracy ur a star....Joanie

Pam, 1901 John Ship abt 1866 London, England Head Hackney London Maude Ship abt 1866 London, England Wife Hackney London John Ship abt 1888 London, England Son Hackney London Maude Ship abt 1892 London, England Daughter Hackney London Mary Ship abt 1894 London, England Daughter Hackney London Flo Ship abt 1896 London, England Daughter Hackney London Robert Ship abt 1898 London, England Son Hackney London Herbert Ship abt 1900 London, England Son Hackney London 1861 James Shipp abt 1830 Sternfield, Suffolk, England Head Sternfield Suffolk Elizabeth Shipp abt 1827 Skere, Suffolk, England Wife Sternfield Suffolk Frederick Shipp abt 1848 Sternfield, Suffolk, England Son Sternfield Suffolk George Shipp abt 1850 Sternfield, Suffolk, England Son Sternfield Suffolk Harry Shipp abt 1858 Snape, Suffolk, England Son Sternfield Suffolk Alice Jane Shipp abt 1861 Sternfield, Suffolk, England Daughter Sternfield Suffolk