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Thanks for responding Jess. I don't know of Jane remarrying -hope she didn't!' I am just hoping a Jane Shell, born Ireland around 1812, would jump out at you. I don't have death certificate but age is not too far out and Greenwich would cover Deptford. If you need any more info please yell at me. Thanks again, Selena

Elaine/Wendy 1861 Alice E Roberts abt 1855 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Madeley Shropshire Anne C Roberts abt 1860 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Madeley Shropshire Caroline Roberts abt 1835 Madeley, Shropshire, England Wife Madeley Shropshire Elizabeth H Roberts abt 1859 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Madeley Shropshire Mary A Roberts abt 1857 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Madeley Shropshire Richard Roberts abt 1833 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head Madeley Shropshire Address : Eastfield Cottage Richard is a foreman in a timber yard ---------------------------------------------------- will try 1851 if you think there were older chilren too. looks like Richard at home pre-marriage in 1851 Hausis E Roberts abt 1846 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Madeley Shropshire John Roberts abt 1837 Madeley, Shropshire, England Son Madeley Shropshire Mary Roberts abt 1801 Atcham, Shropshire, England Wife Madeley Shropshire Mary A Roberts abt 1839 Madeley, Shropshire, England Daughter Madeley Shropshire >>Richard Roberts abt 1832 Briningham, Warwickshire, England Son Madeley Shropshire < a wheelwright so maybe right after all Thomas Roberts abt 1806 Not Known, Shropshire, England Daughter Madeley Shropshire < boot and shoe maker Thomas Roberts abt 1828 Brington, Shropshire, England Son Madeley Shropshire William Roberts abt 1775(?) Madeley, Shropshire, England Son Madeley Shropshire < Image clearly says 16!

Sorry Jess, that's all i know about my Reece men, if i could find where they are in 51 i was hoping it would lead me to more family, the only possible lead (if you can call it that) is that in 1891 George Thomas Reece was 81 and living in St George the east, and states he was born Bristol Somerset, i know Bristol is in Gloucestershire, but that's what it says. Many thanks Belle.

Hi Jess can you help? I'm looking for a Shropshire family. Parents Richard and Caroline ROBERTS Madley probably Coalbrookdale (or Ironbridge). One child is Alice Emma ROBERTS b 1854, eldest I think. Richard worked as a wheel wright and in a timber mill. Thanks heaps Wendy Dunedin New Zealand

Thelma - in Tring - visiting the Jones'- as one did!! Charles Jones abt 1807 Tring, Hertfordshire, England Head Tring Hertfordshire Elizabeth Jones abt 1804 Willoughby, Warwickshire, England Wife Tring Hertfordshire John White abt 1811 London, Middlesex, England Visitor Tring Hertfordshire Susan White abt 1806 Aspley, Bedfordshire, England Wife Tring Hertfordshire John occupation is something to do with Bonnets - Bonnet Puffer? They are Living (visting ) West End in Tring.

belle who were thest of the family in 1851 please can you post it for me for ref

Jess, Thanks for the offer, I want to find Elizabeth Ellen Walkley c 1880 from St George, Hannover, London in the 1891 and 1901 census or a marriage reference for her anytime around 1901 +. Thanks Russell

Jess, Would you please check 1851 Census For Susan/Susanna WHITE bapt.1804 Aspley Guise Bedfordshire,husband was John WHITE bapt.1811 Dunstable Bedfordshire. Possibly not living Bedfordshire. Thank You, Thelma.

Hi Jess, if you could help i would be very grateful, i am looking for father and son George Thomas Reece born around 1810 in later life he was a 'pilot' George Thomas Reece born 1833 St George in the East Middlesex both are missing from the 1851 I have George the younger in 61/71 and a possible for the elder in 91 many thanks Belle.

Jean - dont suppose you did it on purpose! (Will add more detail as i go along, leave it with me a while) 1901 Arthur Bailey abt 1874 Bridlington, Yorkshire, England Head Bridlington Yorkshire Mary Bailey abt 1872 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Wife Bridlington Yorkshire Edith Duckworth abt 1886 North Burton, Yorkshire, England Servant Bridlington Yorkshire Hannah Lister abt 1836 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Mother-in-law Bridlington Yorkshire note: married in 1897 View Record Bailey, Arthur 1897 June Marriages Bridlington (1837-1937) East Riding of Yorkshire View Record Lister, Mary 1897 June Marriages Bridlington (1837-1937) East Riding of Yorkshire Record Type: Marriages Quarter: June Year: 1897 District: Bridlington (1837-1937) County: East Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9d Page: 597 --------------------------------------------- also 1901 based on 1891 - Edith A Bailey abt 1879 Bridlington, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bridlington Yorkshire Gertrude Bailey abt 1884 Bridlington, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bridlington Yorkshire Hannah Bailey abt 1851 Middleton, Yorkshire, England Wife Bridlington Yorkshire Herbert Bailey abt 1886 Bridlington, Yorkshire, England Son Bridlington Yorkshire Robert Bailey abt 1849 Flamborough, Yorkshire, England Head Bridlington Yorkshire Beatrice Carter abt 1883 Norton, Yorkshire, England Servant Bridlington Yorkshire ---------------------------------------------------------------- 1891 - cripes, did you know about the others? Hang on ...two families here... Bailey, Alma abt 1856 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Wife Bridlington Quay Yorkshire >> Bailey, Arthur abt 1874 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Son Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Charley abt 1857 Flamborough, Yorkshire, England Head Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Charley abt 1880 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Son Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Christiana abt 1875 Flamborough, Yorkshire, England Niece Bridlington Quay Yorkshire >>Bailey, Edith Annie abt 1878 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Fred abt 1876 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Son Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Gertrude abt 1884 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Hannah abt 1851 Middleton, Yorkshire, England Wife Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Herbert abt 1886 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Son Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Lilian abt 1885 Bridlington Quay, Yorkshire, England Daughter Bridlington Quay Yorkshire Bailey, Robert abt 1849 Flamborough, Yorkshire, England Head Bridlington Quay Yorkshire ---------------------------------------------------------- going back to Alfred and his wife, quite possibly Mary Pre marriage 1891 Lister, Hannah abt 1836 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Head Knottingley Yorkshire >Lister, Mary abt 1872 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Knottingley Yorkshire Lister, Nancy abt 1867 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Knottingley Yorkshire Hannah is a widow, employed as a housekeeper at The Ropers Arms Inn. ----------------------------------------------------------- will try 1881 to see if I can find her a father- no- it looks like she was widowed by then Hannah Lister abt 1836 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Head Opers Arms, Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Mary Lister abt 1872 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Opers Arms, Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Nancy Lister abt 1867 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Opers Arms, Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Elizabeth Rowbottom abt 1860 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Servant Opers Arms, Knottingley, Yorkshire, England ------------------------------------------------------------------ lets hope he's alive in 1871....looks like it, even if the ennumerator has got his knickers in a twist! Charlottoa Hall abt 1856 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Servant Knottingley Yorkshire Mancy Hannana abt 1836 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Wife Knottingley Yorkshire Nancy Hannana abt 1867 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Daughter Knottingley Yorkshire William H Loster abt 1837 Knottingley, Yorkshire, England Head Knottingley Yorkshire

Bailey Hi Jess, Do you have access to the 1901 Census please? I am trying to trace Arthur BAILEY b. 1874 Bridlington Quay, Yorks. and his sister Edith BAILEY born 1878 also Bridlington Quay. Any information you can offer would be a great help. Thanks, Jean

Nan- according to 1851 census Frances/Francis born pitton (any year) = Nothing! She doesn't appear later I suppose?

anything not answered looked tommorow now. Selina - the death you have for Jane - is she still a shell - i assume so, i was wondering if maybe she re-married?

Hi Jess Could you hunt down Frances Barnett b. 1840 Pitton, Wiltshire. She is not with her family in 1851. Parents James and Ann Barnett (also nee Barnett) living with their three other daughters in Pitton. She doesn't seem to be in Wiltshire. Maybe staying with relatives elsewhere. I can't see that she died either. Cheers Anna

Hello Jess, don't know if you can help. I am looking for Jane SHELL on the 61, 81 or 91 census. Jane was born Jane Teape in Ireland around 1812 (father William Teape). She married Elijah Shell in 1837 in Deptford, Kent In 1851 Jane, Elijah and family were living in West Ham Essex. Her children were Elijah, Mary, Ann, William, Jane Husband Elijah dies in 1853 in West Ham Her son Elijah moves around a bit but ends up in Deptford. Jane is not with him on 61, 71, census. I may have Jane on 71 census as a lodger in Lewisham mistranscribed as Sheil, born Ireland age 60. Lewisham next door to Deptford. I think Jane dies in 1893. I have looked on family search for 81 but no luck. Any help is much appreciated.

Jess, Thank you, marvellous result. 1861 is a mystery for the Smithers in Chobham I think they hid under the carpet..... I expect Frances could have been Fanny do you have a possibility if so ? I am certain they are in Chobham, have got James in 1851 aged 17, and his family in 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901, very nice progression. Frances (wife) was Frances Crane if that helps (my g. grandparents). You are so kind and up very late ? I have to go to work now 8.30 Friday am in Oz !! Heather

Jean- what will indentify him? there is 5 for a starter - not are born Bridlington though View Record Arthur Berry abt 1873 Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Head Dalton Yorkshire View Record Arthur Berry abt 1874 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Son Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Arthur Berry abt 1874 Lepton, Yorkshire, England Head Lepton Yorkshire View Record Arthur Berry abt 1873 Sowerby, Yorkshire, England Head Sowerby Yorkshire View Record Arthur E Berry abt 1875 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Son Bradford Yorkshire

anita - you really need something a bit more concrete to go on- like where were any that may have been alive in 1901 been born, especially with a name like THOMAS In a place as big as Birmingham, what was his mothers name and maiden name - his birth cert will tell you both of these facts

Jess, Thanks for trying. You wouldn't believe how elusive Henry is. Even the transcripts of the trial are not at the PRO. I don't think I'll ever find him Regards Chris

Chris- No Henry Sprockett showing 1851 Wales anywhere not sure what i'd find on census and alike - you may find something in the Times newspaper archives though- Merry Montgommery is your 'man' for that really