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Sandgroper - do you have 1851 - post it please

Jolly jean - although you have not trace of his birth , where MIGHT he have been born? any idea at all? have entered the name on BD & M and have comeup with 34 birth, non specific date, which i am going to whittle down and see whats left View Record Sells, Arthur John 1879 September Births Biggleswade Bedfordshire View Record SELLS, John 1871 June Births Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire View Record Sells, John 1874 September Births Marylebone (1837-1901) London Middlesex View Record Sells, John Robert 1872 September Births Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex View Record Sells, Samuel John 1868 March Births Marylebone (1837-1901) London Middlesex That gets it down to about 5- have knocked out 1880's 90's and really 'earlies'. i wonder who gave his info if he was in hospital? Maybe what someone though.

April View Record Ann Clay abt 1808 St James, Middlesex, England Mother-in-law Christchurch London Annie Mary Anne Pate abt 1867 St Clements; Dinas, Middlesex, England Daughter Christchurch London Emma Eliza Pate abt 1865 St Clements; Dinas, Middlesex, England Daughter Christchurch London Geo Andrew Pate abt 1857 St Clements; Dinas, Middlesex, England Son Christchurch London John Robt Pate abt 1860 St Clements; Dinas, Middlesex, England Son Christchurch London Mary Ann Pate abt 1835 Paddington, Middlesex, England Wife Christchurch London Robert Pate abt 1826 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christchurch London Rosina Mary Pate abt 1870 St Ch Southk, Surrey, England Daughter Christchurch London William Hert Pate abt 1862 St Clements; Dinas, Middlesex, England Son Christchurch London address 9 York st occupation fo Robert: print compositor By the way , the children bar Rosina, are all born St Clement danes.....

David there are , mainly from i would say the birmingham area - who are you trying to attach to? Give me some specific names and i'll see what i can do

Gloria - have had a quick look at both Sarah and Elizabeth born Sutton at Hone in 1851 , no-one jumps out as harbour/harber. Can you 1) check you dates 2) give me an idea where they were in 1861

Hi Jess Could you please tell me the address & occupations in this family in 1871 - these are the parents: Mary Ann Pate abt 1835 Paddington, Middlesex, England Wife Christchurch London Robert Pate abt 1826 Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Head Christchurch London Thanks April

1851 please. James HARBOUR/HARBER wife Ann. Not sure of birth year but probably Kent. May have daughter Sarah b1836 Sutton at Hone Elizabeth b1819 Sutton at Hone. Thanks Gloria

Jess, Thank you for looking.Appreciated. Thelma.

hi jess once again im after your help youve helped me in the passed so here i go again could you please look in 1841 and 1861 census for a JOHN W ELLERY b 1816 westminster middlesex his wife is MARY ENDERSBY b 1814 westminster. thanks sandgroper

Hi, Re: Louis Pester, yes his brother was called Edwin, Edwin was listed at home and on a vessel in 1881. In regards to 1881 and 1891 I have no idea where he is. Clara is on 1891 census, as married so it says in Portsea, Hampshire area. Thanks Jess Let me know if you make a break through Steve

Hi Jess Thanks for trying. Jane

Jane No Johnathan or Jono (the usualy abbreviation) these Johns...London area ..but who know where he'd be! John Mead abt 1826 West Ashling, Suffolk, England Head Bethnal Green Middlesex John Mead abt 1826 St Anne, Middlesex, England Lodger Limehouse Middlesex View Record John Mead abt 1826 Camberwell, Surrey, England Lodger Camberwell Surrey View Record John Mead abt 1827 St Helina Grandson Newington Surrey ---------------------------------------------------------- Ditto sarah - who may also of course have married... possibly 3 or 4, but really difficult to say

Hi Jess Thankyou for your kind offer. Thanks to Gillian on this Site, I have now got William and Sarah Mead and their family on 1841 Alfred Place Bermondsey Surrey. Two new children have been found.Could you Look for them on 1851 census Jonathan Mead would be abt 24 Sarah Mead 24 This is all I know about them no place of birth is given on 1841. Thankyou JANE

Kirsten post the 1881 that you have please

Jean 1881 Ann H. Kirk abt 1853 Stockport, Cheshire, England Daughter 65 Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire, England George A. Kirk abt 1869 Stockport, Cheshire, England Son 65 Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire, England James Kirk abt 1824 Bentley, Yorkshire, England Head 65 Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire, England > James Kirk abt 1858 Stockport, Cheshire, England Son 65 Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire, England John Hy. Kirk abt 1860 Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England Son 65 Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire, England Mary Ann Kirk abt 1829 Northwich, Cheshire, England Wife 65 Daw Bank, Stockport, Cheshire, England 1871 I think - they keep changing names around Ann H Kirk abt 1851 Stockport, Cheshire, England Daughter Stockport Cheshire George A Kirk abt 1869 Stockport, Cheshire, England Son Stockport Cheshire James Kirk abt 1823 Bentley, Yorkshire, England Head Stockport Cheshire >James Kirk abt 1858 Stockport, Cheshire, England Son Stockport Cheshire John H Kirk abt 1859 Stockport, Cheshire, England Son Stockport Cheshire Mary A Kirk abt 1829 Northwick, Cheshire, England Wife Stockport Cheshire Mary E Kirk abt 1853 Stockport, Cheshire, England Daughter Stockport Cheshire address 56 Daw Bank 1861 View Record Ann H Kirk abt 1851 Stockport, Cheshire, England Daughter Heaton Norris Lancashire View Record James Kirk abt 1824 Bentley, Yorkshire, England Head Heaton Norris Lancashire >>View Record James Kirk abt 1858 Stockport, Cheshire, England Son Heaton Norris Lancashire View Record John Hy Kirk abt 1860 Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England Son Heaton Norris Lancashire View Record Mary Ann Kirk abt 1830 Nantwich, Cheshire, England Wife Heaton Norris Lancashire View Record Mary E Kirk abt 1853 Stockport, Cheshire, England Daughter Heaton Norris Lancashire address 46 Allen St His father is a carrier -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1851 calling himself James-must be him/same daughter Anne Harrison Kirk abt 1850 Stockport, Cheshire, England Daughter Stockport Cheshire James Kirk abt 1824 Bentley, Yorkshire, England Head Stockport Cheshire Mary Anne Kirk abt 1830 Northwich, Cheshire, England Wife Stockport Cheshire address 32 canal St a carrier

Hi Jess Thanks very much for that. William wasn't married in 1891 and it would be brilliant if you could find him on that census as I was wondering if his mother, Mary Ann Revill, was still alive and if they had already moved to Leicestershire. Thanks very much for your help. Lindsey

Janet - given that Emily is only 4 in 1851 and that her mother is listed as widow, maybe a death is worth looking for,1845 -1850 ish or maybe a marriage on the IGI? Anna Compston abt 1838 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Daughter Bishopston Wiltshire Edward Compston abt 1835 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Son Bishopston Wiltshire Emily Compston abt 1847 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Daughter Bishopston Wiltshire George Compston abt 1827 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Son Bishopston Wiltshire Hannah Compston abt 1803 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Head Bishopston Wiltshire James Compston abt 1841 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Son Bishopston Wiltshire John Compston abt 1829 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Son Bishopston Wiltshire Sarah Compston abt 1844 Bishopston, Wiltshire, England Daughter Bishopston information: HO107/1848 Registration district: Wilton Sub-registration district: Wilton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 288 Page: 6 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 23

lisa - has to be him in 1871 Catherine Jones abt 1854 Prottyn, Flintshire, Wales Servant Barton upon Irwell Lancashire Alice Isabella Mansell abt 1846 Braintree, Essex, England Wife Barton upon Irwell Lancashire George Maxwell Mansell abt 1846 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Head Barton upon Irwell Lancashire William Maxwell Mansell abt 1870 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Barton upon Irwell address 32 Worsley Rd he is ''an agent for (cant read it)'' Source information: RG10/3970 Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell Sub-registration district: Barton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 10 Page: 20 ------------------------------------------------- first wife's death? Name: MANSELL, Alice Isabel Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 28 Quarter: September Year: 1874 District: Chorlton County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 486 ( -------------------------------------------------------- might be worth seeing who this alice married - View Record Mary A Place abt 1840 Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Wife Hunslet Yorkshire View Record Thomas Place abt 1839 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Head Hunslet Yorkshire View Record Alice Price abt 1845 Braintree, Essex, England Sister-in-law Hunslet Yorkshire View Record James Price abt 1843 Braintree, Essex, England Brother-in-law Hunslet Yorkshire View Record Ann Townend abt 1808 Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England Mother-in-law Hunslet Yorkshire sorry cant find 1861 at the moment

i am looking for another family, wondered if you have the time to look. I have found them in 1881, but wondered could you find my george in 1871 please? George Maxwell Mansell. he was born c1847 St pancras london. he married in 1876 Chorlton to either Mary Welberry or Mary Coulborn. in 1881 this is him: 1881 census - Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability George M. MANSELL Head M Male 34 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Agent For Building Master Mary MANSELL Wife M Female 31 Butterwick, Lincoln, England William MANSELL Son Male 11 Cheetham, Lancashire, England Scholar Maude MANSELL Daur Female 7 Salford, Lancashire, England Scholar Edith MANSELL Daur Female 3 Barton, Lancashire, England Ernest MANSELL Son Male 1 Manchester, Lancashire, England Josephine MANSELL Daur Female 5 m Manchester, Lancashire, England Source Information: Dwelling 19 Chalfont St Census Place Salford, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341949 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3975 / 66 Page Number 23 two of his children were: Births Mar 1878 Mansell Edith Marion Barton 8c 549 Births Sep 1879 Mansell Ernest Maxwell Barton 8c 633 ultimately i cant find george maxwell mansell seniors parents. any help would be very much appreciated.

Peter, reasonable chance looking at the choices availible to me Caroline Miller abt 1842 Surrey, England Wife 25 Crampton, Newington, London, England Ellen L. Miller abt 1877 Newington Daughter 25 Crampton, Newington, London, England Henry Miller abt 1843 Town, Somerset, England Head 25 Crampton, Newington, London, England Rosina Miller abt 1875 Newington Daughter 25 Crampton, Newington, London, England ed.Hy. Miller abt 1865 Newington Son 25 Crampton, Newington, London, England Wilm. Miller abt 1868 Newington Son 25 Crampton, Newington, London, England Henrys occupation appears to be a DEAL PORTER