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Hi Jane, I'm a real pain!!! I have them in 1861 onwards. In 1861 they were living next door to Margaret's parents Robert and Ann Marshall, at a place called Brewery Bank, North Shields. George was born in Kent in 1827. They had their first child in 1851 called Robert Brett born in North Shields. If you want you can look up Margaret's death for me please, because by 1871 George had moved back down to Kent and married someone else and there is no sign of Margaret and I cannot find her death. Many thanks again. Fern.

1861 Census Lookup please: James Olive, born in 1824 at Whitechapel, London.

Fern, sorry .... still no sign of Margaret or George in 1851, do you have them in later census', can try for them too if you don't have them. Jane

Hi Jane, I updated that message I don't know if you saw it, it was about Edwin born in 1856 or 58 and which census is he in please.. Vanessa.

Many thanks, I will look into Samuel because I have found a Samuel Glover before and discarded him because it wasn't the right person as he married someone else. This Samuel Govier has been so hard to find because all I know is that his father was called James Govier a Ag Lab and had died by 1867. Oh yeah, sorry Margaret was married to George Brett, could you look it up for me please. Many thanks again, Fern.

Fern, they obviously weren't looking hard enough...................... part 1: 1851 - Richard Brend abt 1836 Buckland Brr, Devon, England Servant Buckland Brewer Devon ****Samuel Glover abt 1836 Parkham, Devon, England Servant Buckland Brewer Devon **FARM LABR** Elizabeth Hamlyn abt 1780 Buckland Brr, Devon, England Wife Buckland Brewer Devon Elizabeth Hamlyn abt 1813 Buckland Brr, Devon, England Daughter Buckland Brewer Devon James Hamlyn abt 1779 Woolfardisworthy, Devon, England Head Buckland Brewer Devon James Hamlyn abt 1809 Buckland Brr, Devon, England Son Buckland Brewer Devon Mary Hamlyn abt 1816 Northam, Devon, England Daughter Buckland Brewer Devon Samuel N Hamlyn abt 1812 Buckland Brr, Devon, England Son Buckland Brewer Devon Susan Hamlyn abt 1818 Northam, Devon, England Daughter Buckland Brewer Devon Mary Lane abt 1845 Braunton, Devon, England Visitor Buckland Brewer Devon William Lockyer abt 1843 Buckland Brr, Devon, England Servant Buckland Brewer Devon part 2 1851- Ann Marshall abt 1790 Northld, Tynemouth Wife Tynemouth Northumberland Robert Marshall abt 1784 Northld, Tynemouth Head Tynemouth Northumberland Mathew Stout abt 1837 Northld, Tynemouth Son Tynemouth Northumberland Watson Stout abt 1815 Northld, Tynemouth Son Tynemouth Northumberland no sign of Margaret, could she have been married by then ? J x

Hi Jane, Could you look up the following please in 1851: Samuel Govier born 1837 in Bideford/Parkham, Devon No one has ever found my Samuel Govier he is impossible to find, so if you want to knock down a brick wall this is perfect. Govier can be spelt Govyear, Goveyour etc. Robert Marshall born 1785 in North Shields, Northumberland his wife Ann Marshall born 1791 in North Shields, Northumberland and their daughter Margaret Marshall born 1829 in Tynemouth, Northumberland. Many thanks, Fern.

Hi Helen, right lets get you started........ 1901 Arthur Abbotts abt 1889 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Eli Abbotts abt 1860 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Dudley Worcestershire Elsie Abbotts abt 1892 Walsall, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire Emily Abbotts abt 1891 Walsall, Worcestershire, England Daughter Dudley Worcestershire Emma Abbotts abt 1867 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Wife Dudley Worcestershire Joseph Abbotts abt 1888 Bloxwich, Staffordshire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire Sydney Abbotts abt 1893 Dudley, Worcestershire, England Son Dudley Worcestershire --------------------------------- 1891 walsall Eli Abbots 30 Emma Abbots 24 Arthur Abbots 2 Emily Abbots 6m Jane Marsh 20 , boarder ----------------------------------------- 1881 Eli Abbotts abt 1861 Bentley, Staffordshire, England. Son . Stone Row, Bentley, Staffordshire, England Eliza Abbotts abt 1866 Bentley, Staffordshire, England. Daughter . Stone Row, Bentley, Staffordshire, England Ernest Abbotts abt 1863 Bentley, Staffordshire, England. Son. Stone Row, Bentley, Staffordshire, England Joseph Abbotts abt 1871 Bentley, Staffordshire, England. Son. Stone Row, Bentley, Staffordshire, England Mary Abbotts abt 1832 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England. Head. Stone Row, Bentley, Staffordshire, England 1871 Eli Abbots abt 1861 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Eliza Abbots abt 1866 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire Emily Abbots abt 1856 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolverhampton Staffordshire Ernest Abbots abt 1863 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolverhampton Staffordshire Joseph Abbots abt 1828 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Head Wolverhampton Staffordshire Mary Abbots abt 1832 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Wife Wolverhampton Staffordshire ------------------------------- 1861 Eli Abbot abt abt 1860 Bentley, Staffordshire, England Son Staffordshire Emily Abbot abt abt 1856 Bentley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Staffordshire Joseph Abbot abt abt 1826 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Head Staffordshire Mary Abbot abt abt 1831 Willenhall, Staffordshire, England Wife Staffordshire ---------------------------------------------------- 1901 Alfred Walters abt 1865 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Head Tipton Staffordshire Alfred E Walters abt 1888 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son Tipton Staffordshire Bertie Walters abt 1898 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son Tipton Staffordshire Elizabeth Walters abt 1891 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Tipton Staffordshire Ethel Walters abt 1887 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Tipton Staffordshire Flora Walters abt 1893 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Tipton Staffordshire John Henry Walters abt 1889 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son Tipton Staffordshire Mary J Walters abt 1865 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Wife Tipton Staffordshire Maud Walters abt 1900 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Tipton Staffordshire Nellie Walters abt 1894 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Tipton Staffordshire Sydney Walters abt 1895 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son Tipton Staffordshire ------------------------------------------ 1891 29 Rock st, Tipton Alfred WALTERS 26 Mary J. 26 Ethel 4 Alfred 3 Harry 2 Elizabeth 8m ------------------------------------- 1881 71 toll end rd, tipton Alfred Walters abt 1839 Lye Waste, Worcestershire, England Head 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England Alfred Walters abt 1866 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Walters abt 1842 Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Wife 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Walters abt 1870 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England Ellen Walters abt 1872 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England Emma Walters abt 1877 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England Flora Walters abt 1880 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Daughter 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England Harry Walters abt 1874 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England John Walters abt 1867 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son 71 Toll End Road, Tipton, Staffordshire, England 1871 Alfred Walters abt 1866 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son Tipton Staffordshire John W Walters abt 1862 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Son Tipton Staffordshire Sarah Walters abt 1838 Tipton, Staffordshire, England Head Tipton Staffordshire hope thats enough to get you going....................

Thank you Jane, Sad ending for an old man. Many thanks Richard

Hi there I am just starting out and am looking for information about the following: Eli Abbotts b. 1860 train driver in Darlaston West Midlands. he is listed in 1901 as an engine driver. I'd really like to know the name of his wife and a full list of his children. I have Sidney c 1900 Harold, Pemmie ? Norman, Ernest and Arthur based on my grandmother's memory. I know nothing about Eli's parents Also from my grandmother's side Alfred Walters I'm guessing born c 1855, he had children Harry, Lizzie, Nellie, John, Florrie, Emma and Alfred. I don't know the name of his wife or if this is a complete list of children. They were from the Wolverhampton - Tipton area of the West Midlands. I have no idea of his occupation. Harry Walters his son married Alice Price. They had 2 children Hilda c 1903and Harry c 1897. Again I know very little other than this. I'd appreciate anything you can find Helen

Richard 1851 Raskelf ( no address) John Cundall abt 1841 Anlston, Yorkshire, England Visitor Raskelf Yorkshire Thomas Greaves abt 1788 Whixley, Yorkshire, England Head Raskelf Yorkshire **widower / ag lab pauper** no sign of him after this..........

Hi Jane, Thank for the images, they are a great help. Found a few relatives I didn't know. Best Wishes Viveka

Paul, 1851 Catherine Moult abt 1814 Bramall, Cheshire, England Wife Bramhall Cheshire Henry Moult abt 1849 Bramall, Cheshire, England Son Bramhall Cheshire Thomas Moult abt 1815 Stockport Eschells, Cheshire, England Head Bramhall Cheshire William Moult abt 1850 Bramall, Cheshire, England Son Bramhall Cheshire and living next door........ Anne Minshall abt 1781 Bramall, Cheshire, England Head WIDOW Bramhall Cheshire Louisa Minshall abt 1837 Bramall, Cheshire, England Granddaughter Bramhall Cheshire Sarah Rhodes abt 1825 Bramall, Cheshire, England Daughter Bramhall Cheshire William Rhodes abt 1848 Bramall, Cheshire, England Grandson Bramhall Cheshire ------------- 1851 Sarah Edgwick abt 1816 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tewkesbury Gloucestershire William Edgwick abt 1825 Pendock, Worcestershire, England Head Tewkesbury Gloucestershire Sarah Ann Hale abt 1834 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tewkesbury Gloucestershire William Hale abt 1836 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Son Tewkesbury Gloucestershire 1861 Edward Dyer abt 1850 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Tewkesbury Gloucestershire Emma Dyer abt 1827 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Sister-in-law Tewkesbury Gloucestershire John Dyer abt 1808 Beckford, Worcestershire, England Brother-in-law Tewkesbury Gloucestershire Wm J Dyer abt 1857 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Nephew Tewkesbury Gloucestershire Sarah Edgwick abt 1816 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Wife Tewkesbury Gloucestershire Wm Edgwick abt 1824 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Head Tewkesbury Gloucester

Claire, 1871, 344 new cross rd, st Paul, Deptford, Sarah Ann Barton abt 1838 Hertford, Sussex, England housekeeper, St Paul Deptford London Henry Plaisted abt 1810 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Head St Paul Deptford London William A Plaisted abt 1848 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Son St Paul Deptford London ------------------------------------------- 1861 , 4 sp------ terr, st paul deptford Maria Lynch abt 1840 Dublin, Ireland, Servant, Deptford St Paul Surrey Anna M Playoted abt 1855 Deptford, Kent, England Daughter Deptford St Paul Surrey Henry Playoted abt 1810 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Head Deptford St Paul Surrey Mary Ann Playoted abt 1818 Goudhurst, Kent, England Wife Deptford St Paul Surrey William H Playoted abt 1848 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Son Deptford St Paul ----------------------------------------------------- 1851, york terrace, sydenham, lewisham, kent Ann Hubbard abt 1832 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Servant Lewisham Kent Henry Playsted abt 1810 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Head Lewisham Kent Mary A Playsted abt 1818 Goudhurst, Kent, England Wife Lewisham Kent Mary A Playsted abt 1838 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Daughter Lewisham Kent William H Playsted abt 1848 Wadhurst, Sussex, England Son Lewisham Kent

Jane, you're right, they aint there !!!! have got George jnr in 1871, but nothing on others even went down the route of looking for deaths for parents, esp George & then Ruth remarrying, and also is possible that Jane was married by 1861 too, but theres loads of possibilities for her marriage !! sorry, being abit useless at the minute !!

Vanessa, sorry............. no sign of him before 1881, have got him in 81,91,&01 but not with parents or siblings i'm afraid. sorry Jx

Hi Jane, Please could you find any census info on the following: Thomas Greaves and his family about 1790/1800 living in Easingwold area of North Riding Yorkshire. His son (John) was born in 1821 in Raskelf. Married Hannah Webster in 1849, that is where I got Thomas's name from, he was an Ag Labourer. Hope there is enough to help. Kind Regards Richard

Hi could you look up Henry Plaisted of Deptford Kent who died on 8th July 1958 at River Park, Nr Petworth, Sussex Also Henry Playsted of 61 Donnatts Road, New Cross, Kent. He was a Hop Factor and widower....don't know wifes name either........died 24th August 1876 at above address. Only Child was Mary Ann, who maried a John Langford. Many thanks Claire Plaisted

Hi Jane, If possible can you look up the parents or brothers or sisters of Edwin Midgley, Gilling Yorkshire born in 1858. Thankyou. Vanessa Hello Jane, Would it be possible for you to give the info you have found it might help solve a mystery..Thanks

Paul, 1861 Ann Minshall abt 1782 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Head Bramhall Cheshire Catharine Moult abt 1844 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Daughter Bramhall Cheshire Henry Moult abt 1849 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Grandson Bramhall Cheshire William Moult abt 1851 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Grandson Bramhall Cheshire Edward Rhodes abt 1860 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Grandson Bramhall Cheshire Elizabeth Rhodes abt 1859 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Granddaughter Bramhall Cheshire James Rhodes abt 1853 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Grandson Bramhall Cheshire Sally Rhodes abt 1825 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Wife Bramhall Cheshire *** Thomas Rhodes abt 1826 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Son-in-law Bramhall Cheshire William Rhodes abt 1848 Bramhall, Cheshire, England Grandson Bramhall Cheshire -------------------------------------------------------------- 1871 Sarah Edgwick abt 1816 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Wife Coppenhall Monks Cheshire William Edgwick abt 1825 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Head Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Edward Rhodes abt 1859 Hazel Grove, Gloucestershire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Mark Rhodes abt 1862 Hazel Grove, Gloucestershire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Sarah Rhodes abt 1832 Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England Wife Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Thomas Rhodes abt 1827 Hazel Grove Head Coppenhall Monks Cheshire Walter Rhodes abt 1864 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son Coppenhall Monks Cheshire