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Yes Zoe - it does say sister - she is married. James is recorded as single.

Did anyone find out if Alices age was recorded as 11 months. It seems theres a possilbility it is the right ones. Is strange Emma Jessie cant be found. I've been told by my dad that Emma Jessie took a lot of secrets to the grave with her. Now my minds working overtime!

Lorraine - is it possible that Emma Jessie is in fact Jessie E Smith ???? - on the census with James and Alice R Watson Where did the name McLeod come from ? I am trying to find a Smith / McLeod connection !

On the 1881 there is no sister Jessie with James family Zoe

Zoe - which makes me wonder - was she James´ sister !!

Right have now found a Jessie McCloud - born Croydon - about the same age as our Jessie E Smith !!! Willm Dodd abt 1792 Middlewich, Cheshire, England Uncle Croydon Surrey George Hill abt 1821 London, England Head Croydon Surrey Mary Hill abt 1821 Bow, London, England Wife Croydon Surrey Emma McCloud abt 1845 Croydon, Surrey, England Daughter Croydon Surrey Jessie McCloud abt 1868 Croydon, Surrey, England Granddaughter Croydon Surrey Mary McCloud abt 1864 Croydon, Surrey, England Granddaughter Croydon Surrey can we find a McCloud / Smith marriage ??

something else I just found pencilled in on my tree. Theres a possible daughter called Liz. This information I got from my cousin who is also doing our tree. There's a niece Linzie living there too. Seems you could have stumbled on to something

I got the name McLeod from my nans birth certificate. Mother was listed as Emma Jessie Watson formerly mcLeod

Elaine I think you are right ohh they are making us work aren't they Zoe xx

I think we are getting somewhere - have just found this marriage !! WATSON, James William Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1908 District: Poplar County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 942 FARTHING, Alfred 1908 December Marriages Poplar London Middlesex +++SMITH, Emma Jessie 1908 December Marriages Poplar London Middlesex +++WATSON, James William 1908 December Marriages Poplar London Middlesex WEARING, Mary Agnes 1908 December Marriages Poplar London Middlesex I am sure there is a connection here somewhere - I wonder if Emma Jessie Smith was previously McLeod ?

Elainr you are great maybe that cert will clear things up Zoe xx

Lorraine - are you buying the drinks tonight - my head hurts !!!!!

Seems like its them dont it. Will have to see about getting that certificate soon. If they were brother and sister which it seems very likely how would they have managed to get married? You still needed a birth certificate then didnt you? Perhaps she took someone elses identity....who knows You both deserve a very large drink on me..thanks for all your help could never have done it without you. Am well excited aobut it and a bit gob smacked to. Thanks loads Lorraine

Something else I can add is that around that time they lived in Bow

I mean Poplar

I don't think they were brother and sister maybe he just said that in the census as there is no sister of that age with them in 1881 and Elaine found her as Mccleod so maybe they were just fibbing..don't ask me why! You did not have to have proof ie birth certs back then Zoe

I would suggest that you get the marriage certificate of James and Emma - hopefully it will answer some of your questions. Like Zoe said I doubt if they were brother and sister, even though that was what was recorded on the census - she probably didn´t like to admit to the fact that they were living together and not married.

ive just found this Maclouad, Jessie 1891 June Marriages Croydon Surrey View Record Smith, James 1891 June Marriages Croydon Surrey have got to do my dinner poor hubby is out theredoing it while i sit here searching.

Lorraine that makes sense then she married the Smith in 1891 and in 1908 she married your man under the name of Smith Zoe x Looks like you solved this one xx