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1881 has a John Partington b 1870 AND William Partington b 1869 in the Workhouse... but I can't find Maria (Mother) YET ! ... with Richard b 1874 Lise, you should tread very carefully now. You need to get some more evidence together before you start ordering certificates. here is that family on 1861: William Partington abt 1839 Manchester, Lancashire, England Lodger Manchester Lancashire Maria Partington abt 1842 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Manchester Lancashire Isabella Partington abt 1860 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Manchester Lancashire

1871 census: William Partington abt 1841 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head St Barnabas Lancashire Maria Partington abt 1843 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife St Barnabas Lancashire Isabella Partington abt 1861 Manchester, Ireland Daughter St Barnabas Lancashire Joseph Partington abt 1862 Manchester, Ireland Son St Barnabas Lancashire Ellen Partington abt 1865 Manchester, Ireland Daughter St Barnabas Lancashire <<<she's on the 1891 as Fletcher William Partington abt 1869 Manchester, Ireland Son St Barnabas Lancashire Ellen Bacon abt 1793 Ireland Mother St Barnabas Lancashire

1891 census has a Richard Partington aged 17 (b 1874) a PAINTER.<<<<******* Mother is Maria (Wid) Dressmaker 50 John 19 Richard 17 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Painter b 1874 Ellen Fletcher (Daughter) Wid 26 Thomas Fletcher 4 Grandson. All born Manchester. Living in civil parish of Beswick, Manchester

I can see why you chose the Richard Partington from Salford ! cos Richard and Susan got married in Salford. They married in Salford because that's were Susan lived. If it was MY tree, I would consider the fact seriously, that Richard gives WILLIAM as his father name. You should consider the Richard Partington that Pete found as a boarder on 1901 census. He was born 1874 ... a Painter ? but I have no idea where Miles Platting is either. WHO are the witnesses at the wedding please ? Elaine ;-)

Births Sep 1873 PARTINGTON Robert Henry Bolton Births Dec 1875 Partington Richard Bolton 8c 416 This would make him approx = 32 on marriage cert ... but wouldn't tie in with the census's that say he was born 1877. I would be careful when ordering another cert. If your happy that Dad was William, then use father William Partington as a checking reference on any cert you order. they won't send you the wrong cert, but will charge you just £3 for checking. *** Lise, His Father is William - YES ... but Mother may NOT be Ellen. We NEED to look for a Richard b 1874 with father William now.

Elaine Totally lost now, may be it was just a simple miscalculation of numbers that lead me to the wrong certificate in the first place, Yes I dont know why i have a cert for 1870 , ive obviously got the completey wrong person, how stupid could I have been not to check the most important fact, So I should be ordering a cert for richard abt 1874 ish with parents Ellen & WIlliam. May be things will start to make sence a little bit more now.... Im really really sorry for all the misunderstanding... Especially to Pete, many thanks to you too, and all you lovely people for taking the time to sort my dilema Once again sorry and thanks Lise xx :) :) :) :) :)

If he was married in 1907 aged 33 this makes him born 1874 ish ! Why had you got a birth cert for someone born in 1870 ? His marriage certificate says his father is named William .... I think you should go with that for now. He MAY have been a year or so out with his age ... The only Richard's b 1870 ish, on the 1881 & 1871 who have William as father are the one's shown abaove. Father: William Mother: Ellen Father is deceased on the marriage cert ... and is NOT on 1891 & 1901 with Ellen .... so... all things considered ... ******************************************************************* THIS is nonsense now - since Richard was NOT born in 1870 ....... ******************************************************************

Still not totally clear, Are we saying Richards parents were william and Ellen ?? Lise

Age 33 in 1907 would make him born 1874/75

** F C Michigan ** Ii have richard age 33 bachelor and susan spinster 38 ?? Does this make sence either.. lise

Births Jun 1877 PARTINGTON Richard Bolton 8c 421 I have a feeling that the first Richard died .... Deaths Jun 1871 Partington Richard aged 1 Bolton 8c 207 This COULD be Dad's death ...if he was born in 1840 ... Deaths Sep 1882 Partington William aged 42 Bolton 8c 237

Ellen is Widowed by 1901 so would tie in with father being deceased on marriage certificate.

Lise, Are Richard & Susan, 37 & 38 years old on Marriage cert please ? Elaine ;-)

1881: 25 Bk Foundry St, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England William Partington abt 1836 Daubhill Bolton Head Ellen Partington abt 1849 Egerton, Cheshire, England Wife Richard Partington abt 1876 Bolton Son Robert Hy. Partington abt 1874 Bolton Son I THINK that something is wrong somewhere ...! Richard was definately alive for the 1871 census ....... BUT I wonder if THAT Richard died and William and Ellen had another son in 1874/6 ????? Strange !!

1891. Ellen Partington abt 1850 Egerton, Lancashire, England Head Great Lever Lancashire Richard Partington abt 1876 Great Lever, Lancashire, England Son Great Lever Lancashire Robert H Partington abt 1874 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Great Lever Lancashire

By 1881 Richards and parents births change quite a bit from 1871?? Ellen Partington abt 1849 Egerton, Cheshire, England Wife 25 Bk Foundry St, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England Richard Partington abt 1876 Bolton Son 25 Bk Foundry St, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England Robert Hy. Partington abt 1874 Bolton Son 25 Bk Foundry St, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England William Partington abt 1836 Daubhill Bolton Head 25 Bk Foundry St, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England

Lise The William Partington on the 1871 is a 'collier', whereas on your Richard's marriage certificate it says 'weaver' . However, the majority of people on the same census page are something to do with the cotton trade. Strange. Suzy

Why are we assuming that the Richard who married in 1907 was born 1870+/- a year? Pete

Not sure what this leads to, BUT 1871 search for Richard Partington b1870 +/- 1 year throws up ONLY ONE RESULT. Richard Partington abt 1870 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Great Bolton Lancashire ............... :- Ellen Partington abt 1847 Egerton, Lancashire, England Wife Great Bolton Lancashire Richard Partington abt 1870 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Great Bolton Lancashire William Partington abt 1840 Bolton, Lancashire, England Head Great Bolton Lancashire here is Richard with FATHER WILLIAM. ! So you should be looking for Richard born in Bolton area. I see I was last to arrive at the party AGAIN !!!! Elaine ;-) Births Jun 1870 Partington Richard Bolton 8c 372 ----------------- ???? Marriages Mar 1870 Isherwood Ellen Bolton 8c 347 Partington William Bolton 8c 347 ------------ 1901 census: NOT sure about this as the years of birth are WAY out Ellen Partington abt 1852 Egerton, Lancashire, England Head Bolton Lancashire Richard Partington abt 1877 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Bolton Lancashire Robert H Partington abt 1874 Bolton, Lancashire, England Son Bolton Lancashire 1891: Same family again ... years of birth are WAY out again ... so don't think it's YOUR Richard with mum Ellen. ??? Images definately give Richard as being born in 76 /77. :-(

If you do a search on the 1901 census site (rather than on Ancestry) there is a Richard PARTINGTON age 27 occupation house painter. Born Miles Platting Lancs. (being a southerner I've never heard of the place!) and from Ancestry his details: Name: Richard Partington Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Miles Platting, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Manchester Ecclesiatical parish: Newton Heath St Augustine County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Source information: RG13/3753 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Folio: 86 Page: 5 Oh yes, and he's single.