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Anyone want help with Mysteries THREAD 2**CLOSED**
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Zoe | Report | 10 Mar 2006 19:25 |
Same as before put down what your mystery is and will help to try and solve it~ please put as much info as possible also census details ~ if any are available ONLY ENGLAND AND WALES Many thanks Zoe |
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Jessie aka Maddies mate | Report | 10 Mar 2006 19:34 |
Zoe I have my G/G/Grandma born Florence Young in Sheffield in 1872c, in 1892 she had my G/grandfather Samuel Young Westwood and later that year married the father my G/G/Grandfather Samuel Westwood born 1872 in Sheffield. I have traced the Westwood side of the family but got stuck with Florence. I can't find her birth or her on any census before her marriage in 1892, thinking of sending for her marriage cert to confirm her Fathers name but any help you could give would be appreciated Regards Joanne |
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Rebecca | Report | 10 Mar 2006 21:41 |
Zoe, I'm trying to find my brother Gary who my dad adopted from my mothers previous marriage. Her name is Dorothy Hickman and at the time we lived near Cannock Chase in Staffordshire. Gary is about 37 and I believe he worked in the Navy at some point (maybe still does). Not sure where to start looking as we are Buttle, mum was Hickman then remarried to Bull but don't know name of Gary's father. Can you give me any pointers???? |
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Denise | Report | 10 Mar 2006 21:49 |
Yes, thanks. I'm looking for the father of my GGG Grandfather. On his marriage certificate it says his name is William Taylor and that he is a stonemason, yet when I look in any census all the way from 1851 I cannot find a Wiliam Taylor of the correct age and occuption with the exception of one that has a nine year old son with the same name as my great-great-grandfather. Here is the information. Henry Taylor b. abt 1821 in Wigan. He lived there as far as I can tell until he died. I guess this would make his father born around 1795 to 1800 possibly also in Wigan. Henry is shown in the 1841 census married to his first wife Margaret, but no William Taylor that I can link. Since I cannot find any parents I don't know siblings names to try to connect with parents ANy suggestions? Thanks again, Denise |
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Tracey | Report | 10 Mar 2006 21:51 |
i have a mystery big time twin girls born Ellen Rebecca Dynan Mile End Old Town Vol 1c Page 455 Birth Sep 1907 Harriett Dynan Mile End Old Town Vol 1c Page 455 Birth Sep 1907 (twins) cant find any marriages or deaths mother harriet marchant but these girls where born 4 years after a son william george 1903. and before two other children 1911 and 1915 on these children certs they all have the same surname(bignold). but on the twins certs they have harrietts first married name (dynan). i feel they all have the same parents as one is called harriett and the other ellen ( ellen was the other childrens fathers first wifes name. now thats strange dont know if anyone else has come up with this in there family ghosts i think. tracey |
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Carol | Report | 10 Mar 2006 22:18 |
Can you help with Irish mysteries, timeframe 1833, thought I would ask first Carol |
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Liz | Report | 11 Mar 2006 00:04 |
My mother was fostered and never knew she had any siblings. I've found them on the 1901 census for Hertford, have found their births but can't find any marriages or deaths. Names are: Fanny Wood nee Adams b 1868. (mother) Children: Lily Wood Adams b 1888 Ware Rose Annie b 1891 Ware George William b 1892 Ware Phyllis Amelia J b 1897 Hertford Daisy Mildred b 1899 Hertford Gertrude May b1905 Hertford I believe Fanny married George William Wood in Dec. quarter 1890, in Wandsworth. Lily was obviously born before they were married. Also on Gertrude's birth cert. Fanny is a widow . My mother was born in 1907 so clearly George was not her father. It has occured to me that maybe Fanny was not the mother of Gertrude and Beatrice(my Mother) although she is named on their birth certs, but Lily might have been. Fanny would have been 37 and 39 when she had her last two children, which seems a bit odd as she was a widow. I believe Gertrude may also have been fostered which is why I suspect they may have been Lily's. What do you think? Why can't I find marriages or deaths for any of them? If you can throw any light on this mystery I shall be eternally grateful, thanks in advance, Liz |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 00:28 |
Hi Zoe, If your looking for a mystery this is defo one. I am looking for my Great Grandfather, James Hawkins died 12/11/1948 aged 77 he was born 14/12/1870(found that from a birthday book of my Nan's) He married my Great Grandmother Rosa Twyman 4/8/1917 aged 47. His father on the marriage cert was Henry Andrew Hawkins an Engine Driver. I can't find any reference to James or his father any where was always told he was from Strood in Kent. On the marriage cert it also says his father was deceased and another old story says he went to sea at 13 when his father died and his mother died a few years later of a broken heart. If you have any ideas this would be much appreciated. Many thanks for your offer Zoe |
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Glyn Stuart | Report | 11 Mar 2006 02:45 |
Hi Zoe Not sure if you can help but thought worth a try you may have more tricks up your sleeve than I have. Looking for my partners family. Gt Grandmother Mary Hughes born Sedgley abt 1845 married John Cooper 1863. Parents Thomas & Sarah Hughes. On 1851 census all family born Sedgley. On 1861 census Thomas now says born Wales he's remarried has youngest sons Isaac & George with him but not rest of family. Can find children Mary & Sarah as servants, Elizabeth missing. Can't pinpoint sons James & Thomas. Thomas (father) by 1871 census has died. Found marriage of Sarah Mucklow to Thomas Hughes under district of Dudley that could be them but if none of them born Sedgley on 1851 census can't be sure. Have asked for help 1841 census Sedgley but info not quiet right. Have you any ideas of how I could find out where Thomas was born in Wales or if Sarah was realy born Sedgley. Below all census info I have. Sorry if this is very long but you did say include any info you have. Many thanks in advance. 1851 census Elizabeth Hughes abt 1849 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire George Hughes abt 1847 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire Isaac Hughes abt 1850 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire James Hughes abt 1840 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire Mary Hughes abt 1845 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire Sarah Hughes abt 1821 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Wife Sedgley Staffordshire Sarah Hughes abt 1844 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire Thomas Hughes abt 1812 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Head Sedgley Staffordshire Thos Hughes abt 1841 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire 1861 census Ellen Davies abt 1848 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Stepdaughter-in-law Sedgley Staffordshire John Davies abt 1839 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Stepson-in-law Sedgley Staffordshire Martha Davies abt 1852 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Stepdaughter-in-law Sedgley Staffordshire William Davies abt 1842 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Stepson-in-law Sedgley Staffordshire Eliza Hughes abt 1856 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire Elizabeth Hughes abt 1818 Newport, Shropshire, England Wife Sedgley Staffordshire George Hughes abt 1847 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire Isaac Hughes abt 1851 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire Phebe Hughes abt 1853 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire Thomas Hughes abt 1816 Wales Head Sedgley Staffordshire 1871 census Eliza Hughes abt 1856 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire Elizabeth Hughes abt 1818 Shifnal, Shropshire, England Head Sedgley Staffordshire Esther Hughes abt 1864 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Sedgley Staffordshire Isaac Hughes abt 1851 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Son Sedgley Staffordshire |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 11:12 |
Brick You so are going to need the marriage cert to be sure So this is her in 1901 Albert Westwood abt 1898 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire Florence Westwood abt 1873 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Wife Nether Hallam Yorkshire Nellie Westwood abt 1900 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Nether Hallam Yorkshire Robert Westwood abt 1885 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Brother Nether Hallam Yorkshire Samuel Westwood abt 1872 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Head Nether Hallam Yorkshire Samuel Westwood abt 1893 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire Thomas Westwood abt 1880 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Brother Nether Hallam Yorkshire William H Westwood abt 1894 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1891 There are only 2 one born 1872 and one born 1874 ~ get cert to clarify but this is the likeliest option as in the same area Haed is a widow and Carter Florence Young abt 1874 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Nether Hallam Yorkshire John Young abt 1832 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Head Nether Hallam Yorkshire Lilian Young abt 1881 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Nether Hallam Yorkshire Lucy Young abt 1882 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Nether Hallam Yorkshire William Young abt 1876 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Nether Hallam Yorkshire Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 11:34 |
Bugsbunny 1891 mistranscribed as Hardney but have the mother with them Head is a Groom and Gardener Living at Pitch Place Fred Louis Harding abt 1890 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Son Worplesdon Surrey Frederick Harding abt 1861 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Head Worplesdon Surrey Horace Harding abt 1890 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Son Worplesdon Surrey Mary Ann Harding abt 1823 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Mother Worplesdon Surrey Sarah E Harding abt 1862 Southampton, Hampshire, England Wife Worplesdon Surrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~# 1901 ~ different wife Head is a Carter on farm Living Park Lane Cottages Albert E Harding abt 1899 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Son Merrow Surrey Ethel M Harding abt 1898 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Daughter Merrow Surrey Frederick Harding abt 1861 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Head Merrow Surrey Fredrick L Harding abt 1890 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Son Merrow Surrey Horace H Harding abt 1891 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Son Merrow Surrey Kate A Harding abt 1894 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Daughter Merrow Surrey Mary K Harding abt 1872 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Wife Merrow Surrey Reginald W Harding abt 1895 Worplesdon, Surrey, England Son Merrow Surrey Walter G Harding abt 1900 Merrow, Surrey, England Son Merrow Surrey Robert F Tipping abt 1896 Milford, Surrey, England Stepson Merrow Surrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Genuki Guildford Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Albury; Godalming; Godalming Rural; Guildford; Ripley; Woking GRO volumes : IV (1837-51); 2a (1852-1930). Albury, Artington, Bowling Green, Compton, East Clandon, East Horsley, Godalming, Guildford, Merrow, Ockham, Pirbright, Puttenham (from 1869), Send and Ripley, Shere, Stoke, Wanborough, West Clandon, West Horsley, Wisley, Woking, Worplesdon. Registers now divided between West Surrey and North Surrey districts. Depends who you are following if you want the maiden name of Sarah Elizabeth order the below birth cert! Birth Births Dec 1889 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harding Frederick Louis District: Guildford Vol: 2a Page;63 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marriage 2nd one Marriages Sep 1900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harding Frederick Guildford 2a 147 Mary Kate Tipping on same page ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There are 2 deaths for a Sarah but the other is in Greenwich think this one maybe yours Name: Sarah Elizabeth Harding Birth Date: abt 1861 Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 38 District: Guildford County: Surrey Volume: 2a Hope this helps Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 11:38 |
Denise Please give all details off the marriage cert let me try working back and see what I come up with and give me your GG grandfathers details aswell so I can ensure I'm on the right path! Thanks Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 11:39 |
Rebecca Can't help you on that side on things ~ Sorry. Put a post on the Trying to find board I'm sure someone will help you out there Good luck Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 11:42 |
Tracey Where have you looked have you looked through the GRO records for marriages and deaths? Now do you have any of the birth certs as these would tell you parents names and should have an address the parents were registered at time of birth. Now once you have this address you can do a Electoral roll lookup for that address and see who was living there.~don't have access sorry Hope this helps Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 11:43 |
Carol So sorry no access to Irish records ~ Good luck in your search Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 11:49 |
Liz Who does it state the father is on the certs or does it have no name? Her age is fine to have children and it sometimes happens when they are a widow they have children after ~I had one where she named the dead husband the father 4 years after he died ~ think they must have got lonely! Zoe |
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Julie | Report | 11 Mar 2006 12:38 |
Hi Zoe. I have asked for your help before on the Boag part of my tree now I have another mystery for you. My grandmother Amy Emma White born 30/6/1904 in Alverstoke.I have birth cert.Parents Mother Alice Jane Amy White nee Hindle.1901 census a nurse in York.I am able to work back with her. Father Arthur Martin White a clerk.All I know about him was he was a drunk and hit Alice. Can not find marriage for Alice and Arthur.I looked between 1901 and 1904 as from the details I have they must of married between these dates.I don't know where Arthur was born so can't look up census.Wondered if another pair of eyes could check marriage. Thank you Julie |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 12:44 |
Zoe Strange one looked through all the James Hawkin* orn 1870 +/-2 in the 1881 census to see if any had a father called Henry no sign of your guy! You have his marriage cert what was his job and address at time of marriage. Now I only seem to be able to find one Henry Andrew Hawkins and he is a Baker and no son called James Arrgghhh And based on the birth date you gave there are only two births for that name one in Berkshire and another in Islington yours is not the one in Berkshire found him no James with them! Couldn't find the one born Islington Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 12:56 |
Glyn Is this possibly James in 1871 Pigeon Bridge Head is a coal miner You could check by finding his marriage cert and checking fathers name! James Hughes abt 1841 Sedgley, Staffordshire, England Head Yorkshire Maria Hughes abt 1842 Dipfield, Staffordshire, England Wife Yorkshire Sarah Hughes abt 1866 Rotherham, Yorkshire, England Daughter Yorkshire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have you any of the childrens birth certs then you could clarify mothers maiden name? and then find a marriage cert to confirm fathers! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zoe |
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Zoe | Report | 11 Mar 2006 13:12 |
Jane Ok looked in 1901 see what you mean I think you will have to order birth cert to find out who parents are! and address she was born at! There is a woman there also called Jessie in the household he lives in maybe a coincidink but you never know. Order cert only way to find out ~ If you get it please tell me who parents are always intrested ~ or just nosey LOL 1891 Asher is a Ironmongers Assistant Arthur a Fitters Assistant Arthur A Dalton abt 1873 Bethnal Green, London, England Son West Ham Essex Asher Dalton abt 1849 Coggeshall, Essex, England Head West Ham Essex Elizabeth Dalton abt 1846 Newington, London, England Wife West Ham Essex Ellen C Dalton abt 1885 Stratford, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex Jane Dalton abt 1876 West Ham, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex Kate A Dalton abt 1888 Stratford, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex Rachel C Dalton abt 1876 Bethnal Green, London, England Daughter West Ham Essex William F Dalton abt 1880 West Ham, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex |