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thanks lesley for helping me, i really appreciate it , im really struggling to find this family any where,

KAREN *************** I have got Benjamin on 1861 - 1901 census....But cant find him on 1851.....YET...he must be somewhere. Lesley :~) ***UPDATE**** No cant find Benjamin on 1851 I just searched for all Benjamins....and All Brocks But he is nowhere...He must not have been transcribed yet...

KAREN ************* Cant find Thomas on 1861 ************************************************* Thomas Married Twice as on 1851 he was a Widow and this is his new wife..... 1871 ADDRESS: No Street Given. Lower Heyford. Oxfordshire. >>>Thomas Brock abt 1806 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Head OCC; Ag Lab. Sarah Ann Brock abt 1846 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Wife Jane Elizabeth Brock abt 1869 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter Source information: RG10/1442 Registration district: Bicester Sub-registration district: Bletchington ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 96 Page: 23 Household schedule number: 115 GSU Number: 828784 ****************************************************************** 1881 ADDRESS: Mill Lane, Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire >>>Thomas Brock abt 1806 Caulcott L Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Head OCC; Ag Lab. Sarah A. Brock abt 1846 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Wife Jane E. Brock abt 1869 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter Sydney J. Brock abt 1873 Cubbington, Warwickshire, England Son Julia L. Brock abt 1877 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter Sarah A. Brock abt 1880 age 11 months. Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter David Walton abt 1855 Tackley, Oxfordshire, England Lodger Source information: RG11/1505 Registration district: Bicester Sub-registration district: Bletchington ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 86 Page: 7 *************************************************************** Thomas's Death Name: Thomas Brock Birth Date: abt 1806 Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 78 District: Bicester County: Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 447 ************************************************************** Back In A Mo Lesley :~)

thanks Lesley for looking, it could well be him, it would have made him 17 or 18 yrs when he had Benjamin,if only i could find him with Benjamin then i would know for sure but i cant find any trace of them both together, could you send me the other censuses just in case plz. many thanks Karen

KAREN ************* Here is Thomas's Marriage THOS. BROCK Male --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: JOANNA LARDNER Marriage: 29 MAY 1826 Lower Heyford, Oxford, England ********************************************************************* Lesley :~)

KAREN ************* 1851 ADDRESS: No Street Given...Lower heyford. Oxfordshire. >>>Thomas Brock (Wid) abt 1806 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Head OCC: Farm Labourer. Elizabeth Brock abt 1831 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Daughter OCC: HouseKeeper. James Brock abt 1832 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Son Robt Brock abt 1835 Lower Heyford, Oxfordshire, England Son.. Under Disabilities it Says he is Dumb on Image....... Source information: HO107/1729 Registration district: Bicester Sub-registration district: Bletchington ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 173 Page: 5 Household schedule number: 18 GSU Number: 193638 ************************************************************************ Does this look right to you? If it is I have him other census's..... Lesley :~)

it was Thomas that was the game keeper, in 1867 Benjamin was a road laboures in 1867

KAREN ************* I think this is Thomas's Birth ?????? THOS. BROCKS Male --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 10 MAR 1805 Lower Heyford, Oxford, England Death: Burial: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM BROCKS Mother: PATIENCE ************************************************************************* Sorry who's OCC; Was Gamekeeper on Marriage cert? Back in a Mo with Census info Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley Thanks anyway - will have to be a mystery for the time being. Thanks for all your help my family tree has grown loads since your help. No doubt I will keep in touch...................... Thanks again. Mary

Hi Lesley could you do me another lookup plz on the 1851 census and 1861 im trying to find a Thomas Brock, the only trouble is im not 100% sure where he was born, it could be Oxfordshire (heyford area or Devon) abt 1785 -1800, all i know is that he had a son called Benjamin in 1823 in Heyford but cant find any other siblings, on Benjamins marriage cert in 1867 it states that he was a game keeper living at Chapel Place (dear or dean lane not very clear),Lambeth. thanks Karen

MARY *********** Hi Again lol I had a quick look Just Incase...But no sorry nothing for William green :~( Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley It is that woman in Spain again - can you look up births in the Netherlands????? I have a William Green born 1937 in the Netherlands and would like to know date and his parents. Here's hoping.................... Mary

Your very Welcome Jane :~))))) Lesley :~)

Thank you thank you!! Jane

LISA ********** Your very welcome. Im glad I could help. Lesley :~)

JANE ********** Hi Again. 1861 Henry King Wingfield. Living with this family. ADDRESS: King Edward 6th Grammar School. Bury St.Edmunds. HEAD : ?????????? Frances Gertrude Wratislow abt 1831 Great Ealing, Middlesex, England Wife >>>>Henry King Wingfield (Mar) abt 1823 Stoke Ferry, Norfolk, England Servant OCC: Man Servant. Source information: RG9/1141 Registration district: Bury St Edmunds Sub-registration district: Bury St Edmunds ED, institution, or vessel: 13e Folio: 127 Page: 27 Household schedule number: 160 GSU Number: 542762 ***NOTE*** I think he might have just been working there on the night the Census was taken as it says he is Married but no sign of any other rellies......BUT I may be wrong.... ************************************************************************** 1861 for Henry Winfield ADDRESS: 15 Dorset Street. Lambeth. Surrey. >>>Henry Winfield abt 1833 Norwich, Norfolk, England Head OCC: MiniBus Conductor. Eliza Winfield abt 1830 Paddington, Middlesex, England Wife Jane Winfield abt 1860 Stepney, Middlesex, England Daughter Ellen Winfield abt 1848 Islington, Middlesex, England Visitor Scholar. Source information: RG9/358 Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Folio: 37 Page: 14 Household schedule number: 97 GSU Number: 542622 **************************************************************** Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley, Thank you so much, I did have the marriage, the 1851 was invaluable! Answered some questions, but made a few more too LOL. Thanks again Kindest regards Lisa

And me again please! Could you please give me the households for the following two in 1861; Henry King Wingfield in Bury St Edmunds Henry Winfield age 28 in Lambeth Thanks so much Lesley Jane

LISA ********** I dont know if you have this? ELEAZAR DAWSON Male --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH CLEGG Marriage: 19 MAY 1833 Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire, England ***************************************************************** 1851 ADDRESS: 43 Market Street. Heap. Lancs. >>>Eleazar Dawson abt 1807 Stansfield, Yorkshire, England Head OCC: Provision Dealer. Hannah Dawson abt 1811 Heap, Lancashire, England Wife OCC; Domestic Duties. Abraham Dawson abt 1837 Heap, Lancashire, England Son Selena Dawson abt 1842 Clan, Heap Daughter Source information: HO107/2213 Registration district: Bury Sub-registration district: Birtle ED, institution, or vessel: 1o Folio: 558 Page: 52 Household schedule number: 191 GSU Number: 87223 ********************************************************* Lesley :~)

Thank you for trying Debbie