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Impossible Marriage to find and I have both names!
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:22 |
wow! and will check this out and be right back. Have been doing the quarters lynn |
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Mags & Nicky | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:28 |
Is this Ann's birth record? Name: Ann Edge Year of Registration: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Nantwich County: Cheshire Volume: 19 Page: 155 |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:35 |
Right, so if we look at the 1861 census then. This is saying that Hannah (aka ann) had relations with a Mr France and a Mr Walker before My William Edge (3rd husband) She has been busy then. This means her marriage to William Edge could be under her other name France or her maiden name (unknown). I will do a search on France now, There is a move from cheshire to Staffordshire, so possibly the marriage is in these two boroughs Lynn |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:37 |
Her birth cert of Ann junior, daughter of Ann(Hannah) and William is in september 1851 and I have this thanks, Lynn |
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Mags & Nicky | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:39 |
This is her record from the IGI I think Ann <Edge> Event(s): Christening: 30 OCT 1851 Wybunbury, Cheshire, England Parents: Father: William Edge Family Mother: Ann |
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Jane | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:43 |
Lynn, on Ann jnr birth certificate , how does it say Ann snr surname, is it formerley Walker? Jx |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:47 |
the ann on family search is the right one for the babtism. Not sure about the other one being connected in the same batch. Thanks for looking. any thoughts on the 1861 census? |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 20:48 |
Jane, It does say Ann Edge formally Walker (no other names) What do you think? |
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Jane | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:00 |
mmmm, this one has really got me !! i think if she was Mrs France in between it should say that too. regarding that 1861, so Ann jnr was missing, unless she was known by another name !! there are 3 France children, but the 1 Walker child is born the same year and same place as the one in 1851. is it possible he was illegitimate? did he turn up in 1871? i haven't seen that entry yet. still working on it, the little hamsters in my head are on overtime tonight !! |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:17 |
I was thinking the same that George Walker is illegitimate, as you say previous names are usually mentioned. My Ann Edge jnr gets married by the 1871 census. The children are then............ George Walker b 1847 Frodsham, Cheshire (possibly illegitimate ?) Elizabeth France, b 1848, Grindleton, Cheshire My Ann Edge jnr b 1851 Hatherton, Nantwich, Cheshire Magaret France 1851, Grindley, Cheshire (twin? same year????) Hannah France b 1853, Grindley, Cheshire John Edge, b1857, Grindley, Cheshire Mary Edge b 1859, Tunstall, Staffordshire. This is confusing |
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Mags & Nicky | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:29 |
Have you got Ann Edge junior on either 1851 or 1861 yet? It is confusing! I wonder if they never actually married, and she just took on William's surname? Did Ann senior die, and then he married Hannah? |
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Jane | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:30 |
Lynn, have you got Ann & William in 1871 onwards? Jx |
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Jane | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:35 |
Margaret, no, not yet. if i remember rightly i think she was born too late for 1851, but can't find her at all in 1861, but knowing our luck she'll probably have a completely different surname too by then !!!!! |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:39 |
Oh crumbs!!! I'm not getting anywhere with the marriage search I am back to 1844 so far. I have not got Ann Edge junior on either 1851 or 1861 Have not got ann and william edge either really confused about the France children Lynn |
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Jane | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:48 |
i can't find births for any of the France children either !!!! |
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Jane | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:53 |
PMSL Oh it gets better, lol 1871 Well st, (same as 1861) Hannah M Edge abt 1854 Westwick, Shropshire, England Daughter Wolstanton Staffordshire Henery Edge abt 1862 Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Son Wolstanton Staffordshire John Edge abt 1860 Westwick, Shropshire, England Son Wolstanton Staffordshire Margret Frances Edge abt 1851 Westwick, Shropshire, England Daughter Wolstanton Staffordshire Mary Edge abt 1860 Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Wolstanton Staffordshire Timothy Edge abt 1824 Malpas Head Wolstanton Staffordshire WIDOW so all children are now edges................... and fathers now called TIMOTHY !!!! |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:56 |
I searched family.org and thereare no babtisms for France children. What is going on? Should i just purchase the marriage we found anyway and see if there is anymore infor on it. Don't really like chucking potentially £7.00 down the drain but I can't see a way forward. Lynn |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 21:59 |
At this point my head fell off. Well done for finding 1871 Tim? Will look at original Lynn |
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Jane | Report | 28 Mar 2006 22:00 |
Oh my god its just hit me.................................. Margarets middle name is Frances, whats the betting on when they were giving the names to the enumerator, they said Margaret Frances, then next child, and it was assumed that Frances/ France was their surname, so gave the name to all other children too !!!!!!!!!!!! makes sense now , lol esp as they Edges in 1871 ! Lynn, put your head back on, lol |
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Lynn | Report | 28 Mar 2006 22:10 |
YES!!!! That must be it !! it explains everything God there is no way I could have got that!! I have now put my head back on Worzel Gummage style and still full of straw. however, it has occurred to me just this min that I have been searching for a marriage for an ann walker and as the last census returns say Hannah maybe it is under that...will check it out Lynn |