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Hazel - are you sure he lived?

sorry jess didnt see the last bit , yes his mothers name was letitia pope formerly cox.hazel

thanksjess, it seems that he's just disapeared does'nt it in the 1881 census i've got a fank pope b/ 1867,and an arthur b/1873 but charles wouild have come after ernest but before fank thanks for looking jess hazel.

hazel just posting 1861 for ref Charles Pope abt 1860 Highgate, Middlesex, England Son Hornsey Middlesex Earnest Pope abt 1858 Highgate, Middlesex, England Son Hornsey Middlesex Emily J Pope abt 1854 Highgate, Middlesex, England Daughter Hornsey Middlesex James Pope abt 1826 Northaw, Hertfordshire, England Head Hornsey Middlesex James Pope abt 1852 Highgate, Middlesex, England Son Hornsey Middlesex Letitia Pope abt 1832 Beech Hill, Berkshire, England Wife Hornsey Middlesex -------------------------------------------------- have found 1871 but no Charles with them George W Pope abt 1870 Highgate, Middlesex, England Son Hornsey Middlesex James Pope abt 1826 Northam, Hertfordshire, England Head Hornsey Middlesex James Pope abt 1852 Highgate, Middlesex, England Son Hornsey Middlesex Letitia Pope abt 1832 Beych, Berkshire, England Wife Hornsey Middlesex ---------------------------------- gain 1871 - what about this chap - do you know James mothers name? Charles Pope abt 1860 St Georges, Middlesex, England Grandson St George in the East London Susan Pope abt 1793 St Georges, Middlesex, England Mother St George in the East

You'll need to get some clarification on her birth record though Name: Maria Grace Livett Year of Registration: 1876 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Kensington County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: _9 (click to see others on page

Thank you i have just seen it i only saw the top part of your message not the second bit that could be them which census year was it from ? Debbie

Hi Jess i dont know all i know is that her mum was a cook in a big house in praed street but i dont have any more names i will just have to send for her birth certificate and try to find her that way thank you for trying Debbie

debbie- what are her parents names please? any bro and sis that you know of? hanging onto this one in case you say james and jane 1881 census James Livelo abt 1829 London, Middlesex, England Head Paddington London Jane Livelo abt 1836 Paddington, Middlesex, England Wife Paddington London Maria Grace Livelo abt 1877 Paddington, Middlesex, England Daughter Paddington London Street address: 15 Salem Gardens Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Source information: RG12/21 Registration district: Kensington Sub registration district: St John Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 27b Folio: 76 Page: 6 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 1341005

hi jess, only if you get time do you think you could see if you could find a charles pope he was born in 1860 , i've got him on the 1861 census in 1837. online .com hes with james pope letitiapope, son james pope, daughter emily jane pope, ernest pope, then comes charlesaged 1 year old ,but i cant find him any where else born in highgate, middlesex. thanks hazel.

Hi Jess, Just a note to say I got your message re Brixworth, have checked the message and sent you a pm. Betty

HI Jess iam really stuck i need to find my gt grandmother i know she was born in praed street paddington in 1876 but i cant find her on any of the census i wonder if you can help me her name is maria grace livett . thank you Debbie

Thank you Jess, you're a star * Info was just what i needed. Regards Jean xxx

Penny -i'll have a go, but i hate london look ups!! Where were they in 1851 ?

Steve - they were down a deep hole in 1871, trying to progress back for you!! Elijah has changed Gender as well as name!! Ann M Gayer abt 1870 Butterkmouth, Charles H Gayer abt 1864 Stockwood, Durham, England Son West Auckland Durham Elizah Gayer abt 1837 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Head West Auckland Durham John E Gayer abt 1860 Stainby, Yorkshire, England Son West Auckland Durham Martha Gayer abt 1866 Stockwood, Durham, England Daughter West Auckland Durham Mary A Gayer abt 1862 Stockwood, Durham, England Daughter West Auckland Durham Rachael Gayer abt 1838 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Wife West Auckland Durham Thomas W Gayer abt 1869 Etherley, Durham, England Son West Auckland Durham ----------------------------------------------------------- 1861 is not such a problem Elija Sayers abt 1837 Bradford, Yorkshire, England Head Lynesack and Softly Durham John E Sayers abt 1860 Stanningley, Yorkshire, England Son Lynesack and Softly Durham Rachael Sayers abt 1838 Leeds, Yorkshire, England Wife Lynesack and Softly Durham ---------------------------------------------------- going back in for 1851 - flying solo without a parachute!! yes/no/maybe/perhaps??(called dau after mother -logical) Ann Sayer abt 1810 Horton, Yorkshire, England Wife Horton Yorkshire Elijah Sayer abt 1837 Horton, Yorkshire, England Son Horton Yorkshire Martha Sayer abt 1836 Horton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Horton Yorkshire Mary Sayer abt 1839 Horton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Horton Yorkshire Sarah Ann Sayer abt 1845 Horton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Horton Yorkshire See Sayer abt 1806 Stainland, Yorkshire, England Head Horton Yorkshire think 'See' is more like a twiddly L and then two tiny letters...

Thank you, yes that is her mothers sister. Could you find SAMUEL STEELE b.1814 Kington, Shropshire in the 1851 census with his wife Ann. Thanks again katie

Katie 1891 Alexander T Steele abt 1877 Cheswardine, Shropshire, England Son Eccleshall Staffordshire Charles Steele abt 1879 Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England Son Eccleshall Staffordshire Fanny Steele abt 1844 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Wife Eccleshall Staffordshire George Steele abt 1834 Wellington, Shropshire, England Head Eccleshall Staffordshire Gertrude S Steele abt 1888 Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England Daughter Eccleshall Staffordshire Harry Steele abt 1881 Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England Son Eccleshall Staffordshire Joseph E Steele abt 1870 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Son Eccleshall Staffordshire Mary A Steele abt 1867 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Daughter Eccleshall Staffordshire Susannah L Steele abt 1876 Cheswardine, Shropshire, England Daughter Eccleshall Staffordshire address 4 Cotes house head of the house is a CHARLOTTE TAVVENER - a gamekeeper - and they are all lodging with her George Occ= woodman labourer ---------------------------------------------------- 1901 Gertrude is staying with her aunt Annie Bermingham abt 1879 Lawley Bank, Shropshire, England Servant Little Wenlock Shropshire Ursula Harris abt 1846 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Head Little Wenlock Shropshire Sarah Susan Hilton abt 1891 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Niece Little Wenlock Shropshire Susannah Jane Hilton abt 1861 Little Wenlock, Shropshire, England Sister Little Wenlock Shropshire Gertrude Sarah Steele abt 1888 Cotes Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England Niece Little Wenlock Shropshire Aunt is a Licenced Victualler and farmer ( possibly mothers sister as she is not married ?)

Hi could you find GERTRUDE STEELE b.1888 Eccleshall in the 1891 and 1901 census. Thanks Katie

Ta very much Jess, extras too, many thanks. Wendy

wendy 1901 Ada Romans abt 1872 Manchester, Lancashire, England Wife Salford Lancashire Ada Romans abt 1895 Salford, Lancashire, England Daughter Salford Lancashire Joseph Romans abt 1866 London, Middlesex, England Head Salford Lancashire Joseph Romans abt 1897 Salford, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire Walter Romans abt 1899 Salford, Lancashire, England Son Salford Lancashire joseph occ= Dock labourer address= 18 taylor St ------------------------------------------------------ would guess this to be parents marriage Ada Holland 1892 Jan-Feb-Mar Salford Greater Manchester, Lancashire Joseph Romans 1892 Jan-Feb-Mar Salford Greater Manchester, Lancashire Year of Registration: 1892 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Salford County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 64 ------------------------------------------------------ 1891 lodging together - and a sibling!! View Record Ada Holland abt 1872 Manchester Lodger Salford Lancashire >Joseph Romans abt 1866 London, England Salford Lancashire > Mary S Romans abt 1870 London, England Salford Lancashire address - think it 94 Gloucester st

Hi Jess Thanks for offer, I would like to find Ada Romans and her family on 1901 census please. Ada was born 1894ish Salford Manchester. Many thanks Wendy