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sorry guys i still see it on cert saying 1867 as does hubby but its a bad copy after checking my notes its in 1857 the marriage so if ahe was 25 then her year of birth should be around 1832c???? dads def david on marriage cert??

this si the only possible i could see in 1851 Name: Mary Hobbs Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Servant Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Overton, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Overton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England and henry........... Name: Henry Binns Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Servant Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Thornton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England or there was this in 1851...but not David as father ***Daniel Hobbs abt 1805 Astwood, Buckinghamshire, England Head Ovenden Yorkshire George Hobbs abt 1844 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Grandson Ovenden Yorkshire Henry Hobbs abt 1840 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Son Ovenden Yorkshire Hepaibeth Hobbs abt 1806 Calton, Bedfordshire, England wife Ovenden Yorkshire Martha Hobbs abt 1836 Astwood, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Ovenden Yorkshire **Mary Ann Hobbs abt 1835 Astwood, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Ovenden Yorkshire Sophia Hobbs abt 1843 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Daughter Ovenden Yorkshire

hiya cherie, 1851 >>> Daniel Hobbs abt 1805 Astwood, Buckinghamshire, England Head Ovenden Yorkshire George Hobbs abt 1844 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Grandson Ovenden Yorkshire Henry Hobbs abt 1840 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Son Ovenden Yorkshire Hepaibeth Hobbs abt 1806 Calton, Bedfordshire, England wife Ovenden Yorkshire Martha Hobbs abt 1836 Astwood, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Ovenden Yorkshire >>>Mary Ann Hobbs abt 1835 Astwood, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Ovenden Yorkshire Sophia Hobbs abt 1843 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Daughter Ovenden Yorkshire seems likely to me cheers julie

in 1891 her dob is 1835............perhaps she lied on ..........all the census details for year of birth seem pretty consistant...

thia is a nightmare!! the cert says Batchelor and spinster..shes 25 him 27 hes a miner she's a weaver.he has no dads details his mum is Susannah binns b.1807c thorntonthat i do know. her dad is listed as David Hobbs(carter) says they were resident in Thornton at time of marriage..so dont know?? got my head mashed has this now and probably some of you too lol ahhh the marriage is in 1857 its a bad copy but after referring to my notesits def 1857 so the first marriage for both.

So she was Henry's second wife then, judging by the ages of all the children. Are you certain she was called Hobbs previously, and that was her maiden name, not married twice herself?

1861: Emma Maria Binns abt 1860 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Henry Binns abt 1829 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Head Jane Ann Binns abt 1860 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Mary Ann Binns abt 1835 Buckinghamshire, England Wife Mary Hannah Binns abt 1858 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter 1871: Elizabeth Binns abt 1866 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Emily Binns abt 1870 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Emma M Binns abt 1861 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Henry Binns abt 1830 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Head Joseph Binns abt 1865 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Lucy Ann Binns abt 1867 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Mary Ann Binns abt 1834 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Wife Mercy Hy Binns abt 1858 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter William Thos Binns abt 1862 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son

yep thats her on the 1881 census at 11 kipping lane,Thornton yks. know on 1861-she was with Henry and children. she definately married in 1867(30th March)at parish church bradford to Henry as i got the cert this am hense i know her dads name(david) but that all i know of her im afraid. why do they like to change the place of birth every census grrr stupid rellies,lol. mine are most def pains!!!!

At least Thornton is consistent!!

ovenden,, just down the road from me,,,

traced what I think is your family back and this is what it has for MAry Ann on other census.........more confusion...sorry and 1871 Mary Ann Binns abt 1834 Ovenden, Yorkshire, England Wife Thornton Yorkshire and in 1861 Mary Ann Binns abt 1835 Buckinghamshire, England Wife Thornton Yorkshire

OK, this must be her I guess in 1881? Alfred Binns abt 1872 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Elizabeth Binns abt 1866 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Emily Binns abt 1870 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter Emma M. Binns abt 1861 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter John H. Binns abt 1879 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Grandson Joseph Binns abt 1865 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son Lucy A. Binns abt 1867 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter === Mary Ann Binns abt 1836 Bedfordshire, England Head Susy Binns abt 1875 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Daughter William T. Binns abt 1862 Thornton, Yorkshire, England Son

Hi there...Mary-ann married a Henry Binns. i think on another census it also listed Ovenden as her birthplace.

only two david hobbs in 1851 bedford. one b1841 other b1812 but no mary ann in house,

What is her husband called/married name and actual birthplace listed on the other census' please? I don't get any hits with Bedford as a birthplace I'm afraid? Thanks

hi please could someone try to find a Mary ann Hobbs b(.see below) Bedford hopefully with dad David Hobbs.(occ;carter)...... Theres some confusion with date of birth as when she married in march 1867 she was 25=(1842c) but on 1881 census at 11 kipping lane,Thornton,yks shes listed widowed with her children it says aged 45=(1836c) any help greatfully accepted,thanks cherie.xx