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Anyone got any Mysteries I could help with?? Threa

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Zoe

Zoe Report 21 Apr 2006 13:33

John Now Martha can sometimes be known as Mary best thing to do it order one of the childrens birth certs to get her maiden name as I have Richard with Mary in 1851 Ok So is this him in 1851 Head is a Engine man John Nicholas abt 1843 Beerferris, Devon, England Son Beerferris Devon Mary Nicholas abt 1818 St Blazey, Cornwall, England Wife Beerferris Devon Richard Nicholas abt 1816 Calstock, Cornwall, England Head Beerferris Devon Richard Nicholas abt 1847 Beerferris, Devon, England Son Beerferris Devon and the year and place Mary was born match in the 1851 and 1871 1871 Head is a Engine Driver Eliza Nicholas abt 1852 Beer Ferris, Devon, England Daughter Calstock Cornwall Ellen Nicholas abt 1857 Calstock, Cornwall, England Daughter Calstock Cornwall Francis Nicholas abt 1857 Calstock, Cornwall, England Son Calstock Cornwall Grace Nicholas abt 1843 St Austell, Cornwall, England Daughter Calstock Cornwall John Nicholas abt 1850 Beer Ferris, Devon, England Son Calstock Cornwall Laura Nicholas abt 1854 Calstock, Cornwall, England Daughter Calstock Cornwall Mary Nicholas abt 1819 St Blazey, Cornwall, England Wife Calstock Cornwall Richard Nicholas abt 1847 Beer Ferris, Devon, England Son Calstock Cornwall Richard Wm Nicholas abt 1816 Calstock, Cornwall, England Head Calstock Cornwall Selina Nicholas abt 1855 Calstock, Cornwall, England Daughter Calstock Cornwall Thomas Nicholas abt 1862 Calstock, Cornwall, England Son Calstock Cornwall ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now this is poss them in 1841 Head is a engineer All born in county John Cornelius abt 1776 Cornwall, England St Austell Cornwall Widow Mary Nicholas abt 1821 Cornwall, England St Austell Cornwall Mary Nicholas abt 1840 Cornwall, England St Austell Cornwall 8months old Richard Nicholas abt 1816 Cornwall, England St Austell Cornwall ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This does look like you man according to IGI ~NOT SUBMITTED ENTRY PARISH ENTRY MARY NICHOLAS Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 23 MAY 1841 Saint Austell, Cornwall, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: RICHARD WILLIAMS NICHOLAS Mother: MARY 2 other 1. ELIZA NICHOLAS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 19 JAN 1845 Saint Austell, Cornwall, England 2. GRACE NICHOLAS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 DEC 1842 Saint Austell, Cornwall, England **now they do have a Grace with them in 1871 census As I said you will be best of getting a birth cert of one of the children to confirm her maiden name then we may be able to find a marriage. Do you have the 1861 census details at all as it looks like the same Mary to me.~in 1851 and 1871 so it doesn't look like he remarried abt 61 just asking where did you get that info? Zo

(¯`*•.¸*Karen on the Coast*(¯`*•.¸

(¯`*•.¸*Karen on the Coast*(¯`*•.¸ Report 21 Apr 2006 12:46

Hi Zoe, thanks for the offer. my mystery is William Wallis born 1843 in Portsea,he's on the 1851,1861 and 1901 census but not on 71,81 or 91. he had a son called Ambrose born 1872 in Clifton,Bristol and on the birth cert it states mothers name as Sarah Young. I can't find a marriage for William and Sarah and by 1881 Ambrose is back in Portsmouth living with one of Williams sisters,no sign of William or Sarah. i've searched for all different variation of the surname(walliss on birth cert and Wallace on 1901 census) William was a hawker/costermonger any ideas would be great thanks Karen

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 21 Apr 2006 09:07

HI, I have come to a dead end with my Mariner/Denham line. The oldest information I have is my great grandfather Joseph Denham who married Margaret Mariner in Gateshead in 1900. They had 9 children that I know of, Mary,Jennie,Harry,Tom,Joe(joseph I assume),Jack,Ethel,Lily & Eleanor. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jacqui H

Little Lost

Little Lost Report 21 Apr 2006 08:58

If you have 1841 census can you look for Sarah FINCH c1840 Kent Thanks GLoria

newforester

newforester Report 21 Apr 2006 08:56

So it isn't just me...... I'm currently awaiting a birth cert as we speak.......(not holding breath)

Lynette

Lynette Report 21 Apr 2006 04:32

Hi Zoe Thanks for your offer. My Great Great Grandfather, George Embelton (born c1830) left England (possibly from Plymouth) and came to Australia, not sure when but was in Ballarat, Vic in 1854 as he was involved in the miners dispute (Eureka Stockade). The surname spelling may have been changed from Embleton and there is some family talk that it may have been Hamilton. His descendants resided in the Newcastle, NSW area. His ancestry is a real mystery. Regards........Lyne

Linda

Linda Report 21 Apr 2006 00:39

hi zoe thanks for doing the look up for me sandgroper

John

John Report 20 Apr 2006 23:13

Zoe - I need help. I am trying to find the surnames of TWO women as follows... Marriage ONE - Richard William NICHOLAS (born 1816) married a MARTHA ?????? about 1846 in the Calstock/Liskeard area of Cornwall.. (THIS young lady died and Richard William married a MARY ?????? about 1861 same area of Cornwall (Mary born 1819 died 1897.... It is the 'ABOUT' word which is the problem Zoe.. But any help, if possible, with the surnames would be a great help - if not, no problem, I know it is difficult trying to find thing when half the info is missing... Many thanks, take care......... John

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Apr 2006 22:47

Heidi Can't seem to see them have you got their marriage cert or even Myra's birth cert? Zoe

newforester

newforester Report 20 Apr 2006 22:28

Zoe, Perhaps could you help me please? I've tried to find family in the 1881 census, failed, and then asked someone else to try on here and they couldn't either. This is what was on the 1901and should be on the 1881 Thomas W Day abt 1876 Poplar, Middlesex, England (son) Leyton Essex Esther Day abt 1853 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Wife Leyton Essex Myra E Day abt 1879 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Leyton Essex Thomas W Day abt 1851 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Leyton Essex 'SHOWMAN and exhib' Leyton is now counted as London - Waltham Forest area. Thomas was apparantly a punch and judy man, so moved around a bit maybe ??? Please could you see if you could find them in 81 or 91? Thanks very much

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Apr 2006 21:46

Laura By the look of the 1901 census the children being stepchildren to the head means they were Fredk stepchildren meaning they are his wifes from a previous relationship. Have you found the marriage cert to Fredk if she was married she would have been married in that name. Possible marriage Marriages Dec 1900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Williams Frederick Edmonton 3a 828 EDMONTON REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Middlesex. Created : 1.7.1837. Sub-districts : Cheshunt; East Tottenham; Edmonton; Enfield; Hampstead; Hornsey; ****Tottenham; Waltham Abbey; West Tottenham; Wood Green. GRO Parishes in Middlesex (1837-1930): Edmonton, Enfield, Hampstead (1837-48), Hornsey, Southgate, ****Tottenham***, Wood Green Looks like you may have to order the birth certs your only option to know for sure as there is no way of finding father with no name. Births Jun 1896 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gray Francis Islington 1b 404 Zoe

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 20 Apr 2006 21:16

hi zoe, heres one to really get your teeth into,ive tried every way poss with no luck and believe me its cost me a fortune. my grandfather was born out of wedlock in feb 1915 to a very youngunmarried mother age we believe to be 16, his mother ella was a maid/domestic, she reg his birth at the end of feb 1915, he was then adopted by an assistent midwife and her hus, by the name of goodlass and brought up as their son although he kept the name his birth mother had given him(he was born in toxteth park liverpool . ive had several searches done by researchers in liverpool and have looked everywhere for clues from ancestry to 1837 and inbetween. ive got his birth certificate witch states he was born at a house in toxteth park owned by a nurse the address being 17 beaconsfield rd toxteth park, his mothers name was ella mcdonald, and he was named ronald mcdonald, after his adoption his name was ronald mcdonald goodlass,ive looked everywhere for his mother and she seams to have vanished after he was adopted. suexx

Laura

Laura Report 20 Apr 2006 21:06

the 1901 census is: RG13 1254 148 PAGE 73 609 S SISTERS RD TOTTENHAM FREDERICK WILLIAMS M 24YRS CARMAN HERTS BARNET HEAD ELIZABETH WILLIAMS M 25YRS LONDON HACKNEY WIFE FRANCIS GRAY STEPSON 4YRS LONDON HIGHBURY MARY GRAY STEPDAUGHTER 3YRS HIGHBURY MARIA SINFIELD S 14YRS SISTER IN LAW. thts all its has on thr. im trying to find the father of FRANCIS AND MARY GRAY. thanks. laura.

Julie

Julie Report 20 Apr 2006 20:34

hi zoe, to be honest i would be grateful for any leads on tracing his roots as i don't want to upset any living family members. thanks julie

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Apr 2006 19:28

Laura Can you post the full 1901 census please. Zoe

Laura

Laura Report 20 Apr 2006 19:07

hello, heres one for you, i have a great aunt called Elizabeth Williams nee Sinfield. i know she married in 1900 a Frederick, howecer she has two cfildrenn with her and frederick in the 1901 census with hte surname of grey. what im triny to find is these two childrens father and if elizabeth was married before. she was born in hackney 1874 thomas and betsy sinfield. there was one male and one female child both very young. sorry i have not got thier names on me. any info tat crops up would be greatful as i a busy with other lines of the tree, i would get the birth cert but am low on cash so am unable. cheers. laura

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Apr 2006 18:41

Sandgroper 1851~Wiythe Green Head is a Farm Lab and Widower James Kimber abt 1839 Carshalton, Surrey, England Son Carshalton Surrey John Kimber abt 1844 Carshalton, Surrey, England Son Carshalton Surrey Stephen Kimber abt 1809 Plaitford, Wiltshire, England Head Carshalton Surrey William Kimber abt 1846 Carshalton, Surrey, England Son Carshalton Surrey 1841 Stephen is on his own ?? in Surrey a Ag Lab not of county ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1841 possible for John Head is a Ag Lab all born in county William abt 1831 Essex, England Wix Essex Elizabeth Fisher abt 1806 Essex, England Wix Essex John Fisher abt 1801 Essex, England Wix Essex

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Apr 2006 18:33

Gloria You forgot to say what you wanted me to look for! Which census? Zoe

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Apr 2006 18:22

Kathleen Did you mother have any siblings, if so do you know their names. If so we can try and find their births.. Why are you thinking that her parents were married in 1911 and she was born in 1930.(is there a reason?) Maybe if your mother got married her marriage cert should give her fathers name..That may help, if you know when she was married I will help you find the marriage ref. Get back to me and I will do all I can to help Zoe

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Apr 2006 18:16

Julie Are you wanting to find him or trace back his roots I'm presuming you want to find him if this is the case ask on the tips board and I'm sure more experienced people than myself will advise you and help you out with what you seek. Good luck Hope you find what you need Zoe