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Lisa Now do you have the marriage cert to clarify fathers name? This maybe him if not tell me as there was one in Wigan. Bock lane or Back Lane John I think it says Shoemaker I think it says Daniel is a Cotton Spinner all born in county Daniel Thompson abt 1826 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire Elizbeth Thompson abt 1827 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire Henry Thompson abt 1832 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire Jane Thompson abt 1834 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire Jane Thompson abt 1837 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire John Thompson abt 1801 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire Mary Thompson abt 1826 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire Sarah Thompson abt 1836 Lancashire, England Preston Lancashire Source information: HO107/499/2 Registration district: Preston Sub-registration district: Preston ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Folio: 27 Page: 50 Line number: 8 GSU Number: 306888 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Do you have the marriage cert if so what was Ellen's father's name as cant seem to see her. Thanks Zoe

Kathryn No sign of marriage Found his birth on info you gave Name: Frederick Hiram Loveday Year of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Fulham County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 214 I can't seem to see him in any censuses it would be worth investing in his birth cert as that would give you his parents names then maybe we could find him. Hope this may help. Zoe

Hi Zoe, I'm trying to track parents of Daniel THOMPSON and his wife Ellen WARDLEY. I have him on all the census's since he married Ellen WARDLEY in 1849 in Preston Lancashire. Daniel THOMPSON was born c1825 Preston, Lanc & Ellen WARDLEY c1821 Preston, Lancs according to census's after their marriage. They had 4 children and seemed to have lived at the same address in Preston until they died. I can't seem to locate them before they married along with parents and siblings Can you help? thanks again Lisa

Hi Zoe The information I have has come from my mum.Fred was born in Fullham in 1881 'but I haven't a clue where May was born or when as her background is a mystery.My mum is certain they were married but doesn't know when.I do know they moved to India at some stage as my nan was born there in 1908.My mum however,is sure they were married in England,but she is a bit vague to say the least! kathryn

Hi Zoe - It looks as though you were right in taking the name Martha as being that of Mary also. With one wife (Mary) and all the dates etc., it all drops into place. Even in the 1841 Census regarding John Cornelius (This could be the father of Mary - only thing is - the Mary born in 1841 to (Mary & Richard Nicholas) must have died as there are no references to a 'Mary' born in 1841 in later records... Again, many thanks.. John

Thanks Zoe. More likely to be the one at Alkham. Great help thanks.

Zoe, that was a tremendous amount of work, something which I really do appreciate. You could well be right about Martha/Mary being the same. All the family you have kidly listed are the ones which I am working on, and thanks to you, just about finished. I am going to settle down for awhile and piece them all together. Once again Zoe, many, many thanks - I don't know what the rest of us would do without people like yourself... Take care... John

Stephen I know it's not what you want but did you have this Name: Mary Elliott Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation: Governess Unmarried Gender: Female Where born: Trumpington, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Swaffham Prior Ecclesiastical parish: Ely County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Source information: HO107/1762 Registration district: Newmarket Sub-registration district: Cheveley ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Folio: 243 Page: 4 Household schedule number: 13 GSU Number: 193654 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Mary Elliott Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Trumpington, Cambridgeshire, England Civil parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Source information: RG9/5 Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Folio: 69 Page: 14 Household schedule number: 55 GSU Number: 542554 Can't see Mary in 1871 Do you know who your grandfather married? If so do you know when as you should order their marriage cert should have his fathers name on there if he knows who it is. It doesn't seem like she married can't see any of the children's birth's. As I said the best bet is to order your grandads marr cert Zoe

Hi again, I've plotted out the birth places and dates from the 1901 census in an effort to pinpoint where they are hiding in 81 and 91: 1851 Bethnal Green Thomas W Day Born 1853 Bethnal Green Esther ? Born 1876 Poplar Thomas W Day Born 1879 Poplar Myra E Day Born 1882 Poplar George H Day Born 1886 Stepney David A Day Born 1889 Hackney Martha E Day Born 1891 Plaistow Henry Day Born 1896 Bromley John Day Born I've tried to find Myra's birth, but only found a thin possibility of Myra being the second middle name of a Maud Catherine born in Poplar in 1879. However the family should be in that area in the 1881 census? I also looked up Plaistow for 1891, which could be either West Sussex or Herefordshire. I've no reason to believe they ever went near either of those counties though. So I looked for the births of Henry Day's in 1891 and found: 1890 Bethnal Green, 1891 Bromley or 1892 West Ham (which comes up in the next generation). These all seem very possible. Please could you see if you can find them on either census in those places? Yours, wishing they had an unusual name, very grateful again, Heidi

Hi Zoe, in 1901 William Wallace living at Portsmouth Workhouse,gives place of birth as Somers Rd,Portsmouth. in previous census surname spelt Walliss or Walles,(parents james and esthet/hester)living in Green Rd(laterly called Somers Rd) thanks, Karen

Hi Zoe, I am trying to put this family together, and need another pair of eyes to help. I have a problem with Mary brn1833 as she had the surname Elliott at 8 yrs in 1841 census, but from research she ended up having 4 children, i am so confused, below is what i know so far from census records, please could you help me with finding out who's who, the last search has my grandfather on Herbert, who were his parents? can't have been the Nellie she would have been 14, would appreciate anything, regards Stephen. 1841 The Coach & Horses, Trumpington Mary Elliott abt 1833 Cambridgeshire, England Trumpington Cambridgeshire Rachel Elliott (Innkeeper) abt 1811 Trumpington Cambridgeshire Sarah Elliott abt 1832 Cambridgeshire, England Trumpington Cambridgeshire 1871 Bulphan Essex William Collis abt 1823 Bulphan, Essex, England Head OCC:Farmer. Nancy Collis abt 1824 Bulphan, Essex, England Wife Frank Elliot abt 1861 Paddington, Middlesex, England Boarder Mary Elliot abt 1865 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Boarder Rachel Elliot abt 1868 Islington, Middlesex, England Boarder 1881 Junction rd, West Ham Essex FRANK ELLIOTT abt 1859 Paddington, Middlesex, England Head West Ham Essex Frederick Elliott Plaistow, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex Georgina Elliott abt 1855 Moreton, Essex, England Wife West Ham Essex MARY ELLIOTT abt 1833 Trumpeton, Cambridgeshire, England Mother West Ham MARY ELLIOTT abt 1865 Bulphan, Essex, England Sister West Ham Essex RACHEL ELLIOTT abt 1868 Kensington, Middlesex, England Sister West Ham 1891 census 9 Junction Road , West Ham Mary Elliott / head / widow / 57 / living on own means / born Cambridgeshire Mary Elliott / daughter / single / 25 / Machinist / born Marylebone Rachael Elliott / daughter / single / 23 / drapers assistant / born Kensington HERBERT ELLIOTT / grandson / 5 / born Plaistow , Essex 1901 8 St Helens Road , Prittlewell . Essex Mary Elliott / head / 67 / living on own means / born Cambridgeshire NELLIE Elliott / daughter / single / 29 / no occupation Herbert Elliott / grandson / 15 / grocers assistant / born Plaistow.....

Kathryn What do you know about these people where did you get their names from a certificate? Do you have them in any census? How have you got back to them?(what led you to knowing of their marriage) Sorry for al the questions but need to know more info to try to find them. Zoe

Karen Please post me the census details inc 1901 you have because unsure of name transcription in 1851/1861. Still browsing though Zoe

Amanda Was your grandad the first born? I have looked through the marriage records for 1915-1919 with the exception of 2nd quarter 1915 and 3rd quarter 1918(as these were not on Ancestry)! When you say you have searched BMD do you mean free BMD or have you looked through the pages of the GRO records If you have not done the latter I would suggest going to Ancestry and searching their BETA BMD link is on homepage of ancestry just below search box to the right it should be highighted in Blue. I would say search from 1911-1915 and see if you find anything, I was doing the lookup with the Steeden name~ but if she was married before she would have a different surname, so she would only have been 16/17 in 1911 so if you search from there onwards hopefully you should find her, if not try after 1919~ as I have already looked upto this point. If you have any probs just ask and I will help Zoe

Annie is it possible Walter died? Maybe this will give you an address I can't see any of them Name: Walter Sparrow Birth Date: abt 1840 Year of Registration: 1900 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 60 District: St George Hanover Square County: London, Surrey Volume: 1a Page: 303 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zoe

Jacqueline OK I presume you don't have the marriage cert! **You will need to order this to confirm the info I give you*** I don't wish to give anyone the wrong info. 1901 Head is a Shipyard ? Elizabeth A Denham abt 1900 Bill Quay, Durham, England Daughter Heworth Durham Joseph Denham abt 1877 Bill Quay, Durham, England Head Heworth Durham Margaret Denham abt 1877 Usworth, Durham, England Wife Heworth Durham Source information: RG13/4748 Registration district: Gateshead Sub-registration district: Heworth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 21 Page: 34 Household schedule number: 223 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1891 Head is a Coal Miner Ann Jane Mariner abt 1854 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Wife Great Usworth Durham Henry Mariner abt 1851 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Head Great Usworth Durham Henry Mariner abt 1882 Usworth, Durham, England Son Great Usworth Durham James Mariner abt 1874 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Son Great Usworth Durham John Mariner abt 1880 Usworth, Durham, England Son Great Usworth Durham Joseph Mariner abt 1890 Usworth, Durham, England Son Great Usworth Durham Margaret Mariner abt 1877 Usworth, Durham, England Daughter Great Usworth Durham Mary Mariner abt 1886 Usworth, Durham, England Daughter Great Usworth Durham Mary Jane Mariner abt 1872 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Daughter Great Usworth Durham Source information: RG12/4124 Registration district: Chester Le Street Sub registration district: Harraton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 96 Page: 3) GSU Number: 6099234 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1891 Head is a Coal ? Elizabeth A Denham abt 1852 Sunderland, Durham, England Wife Heworth Durham Elizabeth J Denham abt 1887 Heworth, Durham, England Daughter Heworth Durham John Denham abt 1881 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Joseph Denham abt 1877 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Richard Denham abt 1886 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Robert Denham abt 1872 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Thomas Denham abt 1846 Dunston, Durham, England Head Heworth Durham Thomas Denham abt 1875 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham William Denham abt 1883 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now if you order the marriage cert to confirm names of fathers and see if the above details match. Do you have any of their childrens birth certs? Do you want the refs to any of the births? Zoe

Gloryer There are 2 John Finch abt 1841 Kent, England Alkham Kent Mary Finch abt 1811 Kent, England Alkham Kent Mary Finch abt 1837 Kent, England Alkham Kent Sarah Finch abt 1840 Kent, England Alkham Kent William Finch abt 1806 Kent, England Alkham Kent William Finch abt 1835 Kent, England Alkham Kent ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dedemiah Finch abt 1806 Kent, England Lewisham Kent Edward Finch abt 1806 Lewisham Kent George Finch abt 1828 Kent, England Lewisham Kent Joseph Finch abt 1834 Kent, England Lewisham Kent Sarah Finch abt 1839 Kent, England Lewisham Kent Stephen Finch abt 1836 Kent, England Lewisham Kent Zoe

Heidi When you get it I will help you look again if you want Zoe

Lynette Do you possibly have a fathers name from a marriage cert or some other info as there are 3 George Embletons born 1830+/- 2 in 1841. The area you say he may have been from there are none in that area. Why don't you try to get a passenger list lookup you may find out when he left & maybe some others of his family left also! With so little info it's very hard to know you have the right one. If you get any more info please do get back to me Zoe

Hi Zoe Please could you see if you could find a marriage between Frederick Hiram Loveday and May Fordham Please? I have no date but would have a rough estimate of 1899 onwards. Would be very grateful for any help.Unfortunately I have no idea of the area they were married. Kathryn