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Hi Zoe, This is more of a nightmare than a mystery ! I cannot find d.o.b.'s or marriage for Robert Phipps and Rebecca Clarke. Have tried various alternative spelling plus Family Search and given myself a headache trawling through Ancestry records with no success. They do not feature on the 1851 Census and, if the Ancestry death record is for him, then he died in 1855 in the Strand area. A son, William, was born in 1846 and his birth cert clearly shows Rebecca Phipps, previously Clarke, as his mother. William and another brother, George, born 1851 are on the 1861 Census as sons of a Robert and Sarah Phipps. As this Robert is only 21 years of age then he must have ben a cousin who took in the two boys after the death of their father. William and George were born in the Strand area. I have found a Robert Skinner Phips on Family Search born 1811, baptised St Clement Danes in 1812 and this is the right area. Any help/ideas would be gratefully received.

Hi Zoe, On the two children by Lillian May Walker, she registered the births, and she has given her name as Lillian May Beverton formerly Walker, the latter child b. Oct.1920. Her address 3, Linom Road, Stockwell. On the child with Adele Willems, he registered the birth and she is down as Adele Marie Beverton late Suin formerly Willems, child b.June,1921. His address l, alderney Street, Pimlico. The dates are right!!! Would you have the name of the site for the Electoral Rolls. Thanks Zoe, this part of my tree is doing my head in.

Tom Why dont you order one of the childrens birth certs to confirm mothers name? Name: Isabella Sellars Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Tynemouth County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 261 Name: Mary Sellars Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Tynemouth County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 257 Zoe

Lisa Where are they from do you have them in the 1901 census? Is this Frederick in 1901 Head is a Market Porter Address 11 Clarence street Albert Foot abt 1899 Mile End Old Town, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Frederick W Foot abt 1867 Peckham, London, England Head Bethnal Green London Frederick W Foot abt 1893 Mile End Old Town, London, England Son Bethnal Green London George Foot abt 1895 Mile End Old Town, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Harold T Foot abt 1900 Mile End Old Town, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Henry Foot abt 1897 Mile End Old Town, London, England Son Bethnal Green London Midian Foot abt 1869 Shoreditch, London, England Wife Bethnal Green London Emma House abt 1836 Mile End Old Town, London, England Aunt Bethnal Green London Thomas Lane abt 1847 Limerick, Ireland Boarder Bethnal Green London Do you have his first wifes death year? When & where was their first child born? What address is on the birth cert? Sorry for Q's just need to know where to look Zoe

Trudi For that info you want I would advise you to ask on the tips board where you can get this info certain people may have looked at that area and maybe able to advise you where to go Zoe

Debbie Are these yours 1871 Charles H W Bill abt 1850 Gloucestershire, England Son St Marylebone London Edward W Bill abt 1857 Brompton Son St Marylebone London Emma Bill abt 1827 Kirkby Green, Herefordshire, England Wife St Marylebone London John W W Bill abt 1853 Gloucestershire, England Son St Marylebone London William White Bill abt 1829 Ledbury, Herefordshire, England Head St Marylebone London George Parish abt 1859 Narberth, Hertfordshire, England Visitor St Marylebone London ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Can you post 1881 details please maybe you will have to ask for a parish record lookup for her death. Zoe

Brenda Could you put the census details you have on the children down for me please. And do you have the address and parish from the birth certs please what did it say fathers occupation was? Zoe

Hi yes those are mine but on the 1881 William whiteaker Bill is married to a Mary Ann and living at Sheperdess Walk with 2 step daughters and a son which is theirs and Emma has gone

Hi Zoe, I wonder if you can give me some information, is there anyway I can find out is a married couple had any children after the 1901 census? Is there some other way of finding out, one couple were married in 1892 and the other in 1900. I know they both had one child by 1901 census but I was trying to find out if they had more children later on. Is there anyway I can find out? Betty

I have a poser for you, I have asked for help from others a while ago but have not progressed 1851 Census This cannot be found on Ancestry as page is missing MILTON John 48 Mason Wattiscombe MILTON Elizabeth 44 Compton MILTON Elizabeth 18 Bristol MILTON William 14 with Father Bristol I am trying to find either marriage of John and Elizabeth or his birth, my problem is his given place of birth doesn't exist I cannot find them on 1861, but 1841 gives them as being born in county (Gloucestershire) Any assistance you can give would be greatly appreciated Ken xx

Georgina I know the British library in Kings X holds them look on their site it will tell you what they hold What the British Library has Under the Representation of the people legislation, the British Library has received a complete set of electoral registers for the whole of the United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) from and including 1947. From 2003 the Library holds the full, but not the edited, version of the register. It also has a complete set of registers for 1937 and (except for Northern Ireland) for 1938. Apart from a few Scottish constituencies, the Library has no registers for 1932 to 1936 and 1939 and, apart from some Northern Ireland and the same few Scottish constituencies, it has none of the four registers issued during 1945 and 1946. For the period 1832 to 1931, only a general indication can be given of the British Library’s holdings which nevertheless total some 20,000 registers – it is modest to 1885, good from then until 1915 and modest again from 1918 to 1931. A complete inventory of the British Library’s holdings is listed in Parliamentary constituencies and their registers since 1832 which also lists non-parliamentary registers (burgess rolls, jurors lists, valuation rolls, etc.) and poll books held by the Library. What exists Electoral registration was introduced in 1832 and registers have been issued for each parliamentary constituency every year since then, with certain exceptions. Registration was suspended in both World Wars and there are no registers for 1916 and 1917 (1915-17 in Scotland) and from 1940 to 1944 inclusive. From 1919 to 1926 inclusive there were two registers a year called the ‘Spring’ and ‘Autumn’ registers. There were also two registers in 1945 and 1946; in addition to the regular registers in October, there was a special register in May 1945 for the general election and a supplementary register of service voters in March 1946. There were also two registers in 1868 and 1885. The January registers in both years were supposed to last the calendar year but were superseded in both cases by new registers on revised constituency boundaries in November. The latter registers lasted until the end of the following year and are identified as ‘ 1868/69’ and ‘1885/86’; otherwise registers are identified by the year in which they came into force even if they span part of two years. As a consequence of the Representation of the People (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (SI 1871) and corresponding legislation for Scotland and Northern Ireland, two versions of the register were produced from 2003. The full version of the register contains the names of all voters and is used primarily to support the electoral process. Public access to it is strictly controlled. The edited version of the register is available for sale for commercial use for direct marketing, advertising, etc. It omits the names of electors who have exercised their right to opt out to protect their privacy. Here is their web address you can contact and ask if they hold the area you need http://www.bl.uk/contact/howto.html Zoe

Debbie They also have a child George with them don't they? Have you ordered the marriage cert as it will say if he is a widow or not. And the address may come in handy as it maybe the same as 1871 if I were you I would contact the registry office for that area and ask if they can find a death of Emma Bill in those years as sometimes GRO index misses some peoples details. I could ot find a marriage searched the GRO records no joy my cousin contacted the relevant office by email a few days later we had the details and ordered the cert, it was just not in the GRO records Zoe

Betty After 1911 its a bit easier as the Mother Maiden Name is also on the ref for the certs, If you have a name you can search births in the area you believe them to be in it's much easier with a less common name. Its really hit and miss before 1911 Zoe

Hi Zoe George was their son and the two girls were hers . The address for the 81 is different to 71 that was at Marylebone i think or round there Sheperdess walk is near Hackney or comes under it . so is my best bet the marriage cert ? she must have died they were poor and she was illterate so i dont think they would have divorced .How do i go about getting their marriage cert i tried to get it in Gloucester but because i couldnt give a place or parish they couldnt do it so how do i find that out ? thanks Debbie

Hi again Zoe, No I don't have the names of any children born to these parents after 1901, that's the problem. If I had the names I would be able to search but without their names I can't. Betty

Betty I meant surnames but obviously if its Smith or the like it will be a hard job Zoe

Debbie I mean try to get this cert Name: William Whitaker Bill Year of Registration: 1876 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Holborn County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 1029

Hi Zoe, Sorry about this but as i can't go any further back due to their great great grandparents coming from Ireland. I just though I would try and find their children by going forward.. The two family's married names are McCall and Wharton but of course don't know christian names of any children born after 1901. I am very sure they would have had more than one child. How would I go about finding them?? Betty

HI ZOE I WONDER IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND MY GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER, GEORGE WARREN. BORN 1836 IN CLIFFORDS MINSE, GLOUCESTERSHIRE. DIED 1866 IN PORTSMOUTH, HAMPSHIRE. I HAVE HIM ON THE 1861 CENSUS AS MARRIED TO MARIA WITH A ONE YEAR OLD SON, GEORGE. HOWEVER I AM UNABLE TO LOCATE HIM ON THE 1851 CENSUS AND I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT WHO HIS PARENTS WERE. ANY INFORMATION OR ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOMED. kIND REGARDS sHARON

Betty Which area were they in in 1901? 1911 For instance Births Dec 1911 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name MMN District Vol Pg Wharton Ada E P Washington Ledbury 6a 755 Wharton Alan S Spencer Portsmouth 2b 732 Wharton Albert J Yates W.Bromwich 6b 1614 Wharton Alfred H Painting Worcester 6c 451 Wharton Amy Jones Nottingham 7b 763 Wharton Arthur P Anson Wirral 8a 799 Wharton Dorothy E Usher Wirral 8a 800 Wharton Edwrd Luty Wharfedale 9a 264 Wharton Ella M Batley Forehoe 4b 315 Wharton Elsie M E Veal Stourbridge 6c 265 Wharton Emlyn J Davies Pontypridd 11a 1082 Wharton Ernest Parkin St.Neot's 3b 454 Wharton Ernest G Martin Dartford 2a 1180 Wharton Frederick Williams Birkenhead 8a 916 Wharton Geoffrey Plant Docking 4b 494 Wharton George Wharton Nottingham 7b 618 Wharton George F Jones Cockermouth 10b 1141 Wharton George W Wharton Wrexham 11b 403 Wharton George W ? Wrexham 11b seeJ/23 Wharton Gladys Sheader Sculcoates 9d 472 Wharton Gladys Duffy Birkenhead 8a 828 Wharton Isabella Patey Henley 3a 1905 Wharton James Gilliam Prescot 8b 1343 Wharton James H Wharton Mansfield 7b 245 Wharton John Bryden Skipton 9a 60 Wharton John Revill W.Derby 8b 1331 Wharton John Liptrot Wigan 8c 211 Wharton Joseph H Hulmes Burnley 8e 363 Wharton Mabel M Farrer W.Ward 10b 1314 Wharton Mary E Wharton Penrith 10b 973 Wharton Miriam Law Bramley 9b 427 Wharton Nora K Smith Wycombe 3a 1761 Wharton Reuben A Hallet Ashby Z. 7a 200 Wharton Robert Hughes Prestwich 8d 732 Wharton Ruth Wharton Chorlton 8c 1524 Wharton Stanley Coux Carlisle 10b 1024 Wharton William McCarty Blackburn 8e 656 Wharton William Kay Bradford 9b 180 Wharton Winifred Hope Gateshead 10a 1852 Zoe