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Me again Lesley your not loopy i am i am so sorry but i gave you the wrong wifes name for Robert Stephenson B1773 Snaith her name was Elinor not ann would you mind looking again for me please Elinor was b 1779 Scotland.i was thinking of my gg gran. Thank you again loopy Barbara.

Hi Lesley - for when you next get bored! I have my direct family as such in 1851 samuel guyler 1815 basford bleacher elizabeth wife 1818 beverlee notts george son 1839 basford mary ann dau 1841 beverlee frederick son 1847 mansfield william son 1849 ' emma dau 1851 10weeks basford living academy place basford and1861 samuel gayler 1815 elizabeth frederick william emma john son 1853 samuel son 1855 henry son 1860 I'm trying to work out which 1841 family they belong to -there are 3 Samuel's about 1811,1814 and 1815. I've listed them below. I know my Samuel is a bleacher in 1851 and the children don't match the first lot. However I reckon there should be a Samuel(1815), Elizabeth(1818), George (1839) and possibly Mary Ann (1840/1). THe 2nd and 3rd family seem to be a mixture with a Samuel, Elizabeth and Mary in the 2nd( George missing), and a Samuel and George( Elizabeth missing) in the 3rd. Could you possibly trace these in 1851/61 to see if it helps to sort them out. I did think that perhaps they were all one family - ie parents at one address and grandparents at the other, but that doesn't make sense with a Samuel 1814 at one and Samuel 1815 at the other - am I right in thinking they don't list the relationships in 1841? 1841 all 3 samuel guyler 1811 warper pheobe 1811 matilda 1831 sarah 1834 mary 1839 william 1836 john brandreth lodger 1786 living chaffe st basford __ john 1791 f w k sarah 1781 samuel 1814 elizabeth 1819 ann 1820 mary 1840 living beggailee creasley ------ samuel 1770 ag lab ann 1765 samuel 1815 bleacher thomas 1821 george 1839 living back lane basford Thanks v much Jan

Im logging off now Lesley :~)

BARBARA *************** You are very welcome :~) Sorry I dont know about names.... It might be worth putting a thread up in tips too find out there are lots of people on here that have lots of Name knowledge... Sorry I cant help with that one :~( Lesley :~)

Thank you so much Lesley for the help you have given me just one question do you know if Eliza is the same name for Elinor? once again thank you Barbara.

If anybody needs somebody looking up just SHOUT I am BORED lol Lesley :~)

JAN ******** You are very welcome anytime :~))) Im going to make a coffee for myself aswell now lol Lesley :~)

Lesley you are fantastic - thank you will sort through this lot now! - calls for another cup of coffee! Jan

ANGUS ************ Once again you are very welcome :~)) Anytime :~) Lesley :~)

Lesley Once again many thanks for the look up. Spot on. Angus.

ANGUS *********** Here is 1871 take a look at bottom of this section at Registration District...... ADDRESS:Edmundbyers Durham >>> Thomas Dodd abt 1847 Edmundbyers, Durham, England Head OCC: Lead Ore Miner. Elizabeth Dodd abt 1842 Edmundbyers, Durham, England Wife Robert Dodd abt 1861 Edmundbyers, Durham, England Son Jane Hannah Dodd abt 1864 Edmundbyers, Durham, England Daughter John Thomas Dodd abt 1867 Edmundbyers, Durham, England Son George Edward abt 1870 Edmundbyers, Durham, England Son Source information: RG10/4951 **** Registration district: Weardale****** Sub-registration district: Stanhope ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 47 Page: 9 Household schedule number: 39 GSU Number: 848025 *************************************************************************** 1861 ADDRESS: >>>Thomas Dodd abt 1839 Esmondbyers, Durham, England Head OCC: Butcher. Elizabeth Dodd abt 1842 Esmondbyers, Durham, England Wife Robert Dodd abt 1860 age 7 Months Esmondbyers, Durham, England Son Source information: RG9/3726 ***** Registration district: Weardale************** Sub-registration district: Stanhope ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 22 Page: 11 Household schedule number: 58 GSU Number: 543178 **************************************************************************** Hope these help :~) Lesley :~)

Lesley I have the following who appear in the 1881 Household Record 1881 British Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Thomas DODD Head M Male 44 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Lead Miner Elizabeth DODD Wife M Female 39 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Robert DODD Son U Male 20 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Butcher John T. DODD Son U Male 14 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Labourer Unemployed George E. DODD Son Male 11 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Scholar Elizabeth DODD Daur Female 9 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Scholar William E. DODD Son Male 6 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Scholar Alfred DODD Son Male 5 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Scholar Joseph DODD Son Male 4 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Scholar Wheatley DODD Son Male 1 Edmondbyers, Durham, England Could you look in the previous census to try and follow the Dodd line. Whilst this census shows all the family being born at Edmundbyers In reality i think they would have been born all around the Weardale area.

BARBARA *************** Here you go 1841 ADDRESS: BondGate. Snaith Yorkshire Robert & Eliza born in same county. >>>Robert Stephenson abt 1776 Yorkshire, England Hellen Stephenson abt 1779 Scotland Eliza Stephenson abt 1821 Yorkshire, England Source information: HO107/1307/19 Registration district: Goole Sub-registration district: Snaith ED, institution, or vessel: 1A Folio: 13 Page: 21 Line number: 16 GSU Number: 464266 **************************************************************************** Lesley :~)

Hi Lesly Could you please look up on 1841 census for Robert Stephenson b 1773 in Snaith yorkshire also his Wife Ann i know she was bScotland in 1779 it may not be north as i found a little scotland in Black rod Lancashire. Thank you for your kind offer regards Barbara [holland]

JAN ******* Here are the Marriages in Rotherham >>>Name: Camilia Beatrice Guyler Name: Thomas Hill OR Name: Joseph Theodore Renshaw Year of Registration: 1902 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Rotherham County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 1045 ************************************************************************* >>> Name: Frederick Guyler Name: Susannah Ashmore OR Name: Annie Elizabeth Fowlston Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Rotherham County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 949 ************************************************************************** >>>Name: John Guyler Name: Martha Merrick OR Name: Eliza Shirt Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Rotherham County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 704 Lesley :~)

JAN ******* These are all the GUYLER deaths in Rotherham Elizabeth Ann Guyler b: abt 1867 died: 1868 Oct-Nov-Dec Rotherham Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire >>>> Emily Guyler b: abt 1847 died: 1891 Oct-Nov-Dec Rotherham Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Emily Dyke A Guyler b: abt 1886 died: 1886 Jul-Aug-Sep Rotherham Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire James Dean Guyler b: abt 1889 died: 1889 Apr-May-Jun Rotherham Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Male Guyler b: abt 1885 died: 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Rotherham Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire >>>> Mary Elizabeth Guyler b: abt 1884 died: 1906 Jul-Aug-Sep Rotherham Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Vesey Colin Guyler b: abt 1888 died: 1888 Jan-Feb-Mar Rotherham Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire ****** So maybe they had other children and they died young and before census night....***** Lesley :~)

JAN ******* Hi yes it is ok at the moment ty :~) Here is 1891 for Frederick (Father) ADDRESS: Old Oaks Yard. Ardsley Yorkshire Sophia Kendall abt 1841 Leicester, Leicestershire, England Head >>>Fredk Guyler (Mar) abt 1846 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England Boarder OCC: Coal Miner. Source information: RG12/3770 Registration district: Barnsley Sub registration district: Barnsley ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 67 Page: 19 GSU Number: 6098880 ************************************************************************* Emily (Mother) in 1891 ADDRESS: 40 Oil Mill Fold. Rotherham Yorkshire >>>Emily Guyler (Mar) abt 1849 Rawmarsh, Yorkshire, England Head Olouza Guyler abt 1877 Parkgate, Yorkshire, England Son Camelia B Guyler abt 1880 Parkgate, Yorkshire, England Daughter Mary E Guyler abt 1884 Parkgate, Yorkshire, England Daughter Source information: RG12/3845 Registration district: Rotherham Sub registration district: Rotherham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 38 Page: 18 GSU Number: 6098955 *************************************************************************** Hope these help :~) Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley - me again - hope your computer is behaving itself still. I wonder if you could look up the following family for me - I have them in the 1881 census and want to know if they have anymore children in the 1891 census and if they are still in Yorkshire then. - they are quite characteristic so far as there don't seem to be other Guylers born at Parkgate. Frederick Guyler (1847 Mansfield) - head Emily (1848 Rawmarsh)- wife H Samuel (1868 Parkgate) Emma (1870 Parkgate) Albert (1872 Parkgate) Frederick (1874 Parkgate) Betsy (1876 Parkgate) Alonsa (1878 Parkgate) Alice Ann (1880 Parkgate) Thank you Jan

Hi Lesley, Thank you so much for the Rouse look up. You are a gem Liz :-}

Too slow Im off to bed GOODNIGHT ALL Lesley :~)