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SARAH ************ 1861 for George. ADDRESS: Featherbed Lane.Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire Henry Final abt 1819 Bovingdon, Hertfordshire, England Head OCC: Labourer. Hannah Final abt 1824 Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, England Wife OCC:Straw Plaiter. Emma Final abt 1848 Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Daughter OCC: Straw Plaiter. >>>George Final abt 1851 Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Son OCC;Works at Paper ? Mill. Matilda Final abt 1856 Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Source information: RG9/839 Registration district: Hemel Hempstead Sub-registration district: Hemel Hempstead ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 94 Page: 25 Household schedule number: 137 GSU Number: 542709 ************************************************************************** Parents Marriage Name: Henry Final Name: Hannah Simmons Year of Registration: 1847 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Hemel Hempstead County: Hertfordshire Volume: 6 Page: 701 ************************************************************************* Fathers Death Name: Henry Final Birth Date: abt 1820 Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 79 District: Hemel Hempstead County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 421 *************************************************************************** Mothers Death Name: Hannah Final Birth Date: abt 1825 Year of Registration: 1885 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 60 District: Hemel Hempstead County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 350 *************************************************************************** George's Marriage Name: George Final Name: Annie Biggerstaff Year of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Hemel Hempstead County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 635 ************************************************************************* 1901 for George. ADDRESS: 13 Anchor Lane.Hemel Hempstead Hertfordshire George Final abt 1853 Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Head OCC; General Labourer. Ann Final abt 1862 Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Wife William Final abt 1885 Boxmoor; Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Son OCC:Woodworker at Saw Mill Leonard Final abt 1894 Boxmoor; Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Son May Final abt 1898 Boxmoor; Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Source information: RG13/1326 Registration district: Hemel Hempstead Sub-registration district: Hemel Hempstead ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 28 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 15 ************************************************************************* Lesley :~)

Can you help with this one pse Albert Edward HUMPHRYS b 11th March 1931 reg dist Romford, Sub District Ilford. Am looking for his marriage or death HUMPRYS was the name his father used in a bigamous marriage Mothers name was PAMPLIN and fathers real name was QUY. He was my grandfathers son. Would love to find out what happened to him many thanks brenda

SUZY ******** You are very welcome lol Quick grab this rope I throw or you might Float away never to be seen again lol I dont think he did marry twice I think Ann Is also Mary (Ann) as they both born Ireland and the chances of marrying 2 women born in Ireland when you havn't stepped foot out of manchester is slim lol But you never know he might just like Irish Ladies lol.... Lesley :~)

Lesley, Brilliant!!! Very many thanks again, Suzy - flying very high - in the Skye!

SUZY ********** Here you go hun 1861 Mis transcribed lol ADDRESS: 24 Back Hanover Street. Manchester Lancashire >>>John Coatis abt 1814 Nottinghamshire, England Head OCC: Coach Maker. Ann Coatis abt 1821 Longford, Ireland Wife Henry Coatis abt 1847 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Catherine Conley (Wid) abt 1803 Longford, Ireland Sister-in-law OCC: Formerley a Weaver. Source information: RG9/2952 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Market Street ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 32 Page: 29 Household schedule number: 162 GSU Number: 543055 *************************************************************************** Lesley :~)

hi im trying to find the final side of my tree from hemel hempstead and bovingdon area herts. this is all ive got on them william final born c1917 died 1964 married winifred picton born 1917 they had 3 children. william george final c1884 d1955 married a kate darvell c1879 (miden name walduck) in 1904/6 they had 5 children george final c1852 married a ann(annie?) c1861? they had 3 children william george, leonard, may would like to know who george was married to and who his parents were. thank you sarah

SUZY ******* No problem :~)) It is the only John Coates that Matches anyway I wouldnt worry that the birth yrs are different thats nothing new lol Good luck If you need anything else just ask :~) Lesley :~) UPDATE I HAVE FOUND HIM IN 1861 BACK IN A MO

Lesley you're a marvel. Yes I do think that the John Coates you found is my John. He was previously listed as a Coach Maker on 1851 census. Looks like the wife with him is his 2nd wife though, given the fact that the 2 x stepchildren living with him don't match anything I've seen before. I'm going to see if I can trace his 1st wife's death now & his 2nd marriage. Thanks again for looking. You're great. Suzy xx

SUZY ********** No joy with 1861 yet for any of them.... But do you think this could be them in 1871? I know the wife is Mary but she might be Mary Ann and use both names? ADDRESS: 24 ....? Manchester Lancashire >>>John Coates abt 1811 Nottinghamshire, England Head OCC:Coach Builder. Mary Coates abt 1821 Limerick, Ireland Wife Catherine Holden abt 1856 Manchester Stepdaughter John Holden abt 1857 Manchester Stepson Source information: RG10/4045 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Market Street ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 83 Page: 23 Household schedule number: 83 GSU Number: 846335 *************************************************************************** Lesley :~)

SANDRA ************ Sorry But I have looked everywhere for your Rulers lol the Family that is lol I have tried first name searches only with no surname given and cant find Robert or Elizabeth nor Isabella nor Isabella as a Harriett.... :~( Sorry :~( Lesley :~)

Hi again Lesley, if its not too much trouble, could you do another look up for me please. trying to find this family on 1861 or later census rtns: They are on the 1851 census as follows:- John Coates, head. age 38 b.Nottingham, Notts. Coach Maker Ann Coates, wife. age 38. b.Ireland Ann Coates, daug.age 4 b.Manchester Henry Coates. son. age 4 b.Manchester. Living at 2 Austin's St, Manchester, sub dist.Deansgate. I don't think that the children are twins, I think the ages have been rounded. Henry, is the Henry who married Teresa Menella from the previous look up you did for me. He was born June qtr of 1847 vol 20.pg 725. any help again much appreciated. Best regards, Suzy.

Hi Lesley, thanks for looking for me - it's been a difficult task for me to trace them too! Sorry but I don't know if Teresa had any siblings so once again no where to look. thanks again, Suzy.

SANDRA *************** For your ref for 1881 Street address: 14 Frean St Name: John Allen Occupation: Painter Source information: RG11/574 Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub registration district: St James Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Folio: 101 Page: 26 GSU Number: 1341131 ************************************************************************* I will see if i can have any luck now with 1871 Lesley :~)

RITA ******** Ok let me know if you get any more info that might help and I will gladly take another look for you :~) Lesley :~)

SUZY ********* Im sorry but I cant find any other info other than what you have... I cant find anything for Anthony... I can only find Bridget in 1871....living with Teresa and Henry.. I have Teresa's Marriage.....1868 Salford Do you know if Teresa had any Siblings? maybe I could find them that way... Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley Thanks very much for marriage of Elizabeth Moss and John Ruler, and census John Allen for 1871. Ref Isabella Harriett Burness Moss Ruler - sorry do not have any reference for 1881 census. It says - View Record George Allen abt 1879 Bermondsey, Son Harriett Allen abt 1857 Bermondsey, Wife View Record John Allen Bermondsey, Son John Allen abt 1848 Maidstone, Head, Bermondsey Painter Address Bermondsey Thank you, Sandra

I'll speak to mum tonight and ask if she's got Henry's birth certificate. I think he married Emma Jane (nee Evans) at St Lenoadogarius church in Nottingham (? spell!). I'll be in touch.... thanks again. Rita x

Hi Lesley, can you please do a look up for me. Trying to find my Gt gt grandmothers birth. She is:- Teresa or Theresa Menella - born Manchester. I have her on various census but only after her marriage to Henry Coates, but the ages for her vary & puts her DoB between 1847-1852. She is always listed as born in Manchester. I have their marriage cert & DoM is 16.02.1868 & she is listed as a spinster aged 19. Her Father is Anthony Menella a Hatter. I haven't had any luck in finding any of the Menella's (including her mother Bridget nee ???) only managed to find Teresa & Henry's marriage. It's an unusal surname & although I have found Bridget on the 1871 Census as Bridget Mauller?, born Kildare, Ireland, I really don't consider this name of Menella to be Irish but Italian. Any help in tracking down Teresa, Bridget or Anthony Menella would be a great help. Many thanks, Suzy.

Thanks Lesley!! That was quick.

REBEKAH *************** 1851 ADDRESS: New Burnley. Basford. Notts. William Frost abt 1814 Blidworth, Nottinghamshire, England Head OCC: Ag Lab. Edith Frost abt 1816 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Martha Frost abt 1842 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Elizabeth Frost abt 1844 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter >>>Thomas Frost abt 1846 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Son Sarah Frost abt 1849 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Edith Frost abt 1850 age 6 months. Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Ann Dunn (UnMar) abt 1833 Greasley, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter-in-law OCC: Lace Worker. ( I dont understand how she is D.I.L when she is Unamarried I looked on Image and that is what it says.) Source information: HO107/2125 Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Greasley ED, institution, or vessel: 5g Folio: 300 Page: 28 Household schedule number: 48 GSU Number: 87755 ************************************************************************** Lesley :~)