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JAN ******** I found this off LDS Site is this your Mary Ann I wonder? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Guyler Compact Disc #64 Pin #143958 Sex: F -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: abt 1840 Place: Greasley, Nottinghamshire.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriage(s): Spouse: John Syson Disc #64 Pin #143863 Marriage: 11 May 1875 Place: Awsworth, Ilkeston, Derby Spouse: ? Tomlinson Disc #64 Pin #143961 Marriage: Place: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Event(s): _MDCL: Place: Noah Tomlinson present at death. Census: 1881 Place: 194, Kiveton Park, Wales, York, age 40, coal miner wife. Census: 1891 Place: 56 Station Road, Ilkeston, age 50, wife. *************************************************************************** Submitter: Simon Garfield CUFF Lesley :~)

JAN ******** Sorry I was not complaing about you requesting look ups just saying the family is confusing lol I hope I have not offended you I didnt mean to :~( You dont need to leave me in peace :~) Lesley :~)

Thank you very much Lesley. It is all very confusing and I agree I need some concrete evidence, but it is useful to have a few pointers and all you have found out helps to that end. I'll try to leave you in peace for a bit. You have been a great help THanks Jan

DI ME ********** Just for reference CHEPSTOW REGISTRATION DISTRICT Registration County : Monmouthshire.. Created : 1.7.1837. Sub-districts : Chepstow; Lydney; Shire Newton. GRO volumes : XXVI (1837-51); 11a (1852-1930). Parishes in Gloucestershire (1837-1930): Alvington, Aylburton, Hewelsfield, Lancaut, Lydney, St. Briavels, Tidenham, Woolaston. Parishes in Monmouthshire (1837-1930): Caerwent, Caldicot, Chapel Hill, Chepstow, Crick, Dinham, Howick, Ifion, Itton, Kilgwrrwg, *****Little Tintern,******* Llanfair Discoed, Llangwm, Llansoy, Llanvihangel near Roggiett, Llanvihangel Tor-y-Mynydd, Matherne, Mounton, Newchurch, Penterry, Portskewett, Roggiett, St. Arvans, St. Bride Netherwent, St. Kingsmark, St. Pierre and Runstone, Shire Newton, Trelleck Grange, Undy, Wolves Newton. Registers now divided between Newport and Forest of Dean districts. CONTACT: NEWPORT 8 Gold Tops, Newport, NP20 4PH. Tel: 01633 265547. Fax: 01633 220913. OR FOREST OF DEAN Belle Vue Centre, 6 Belle Vue Road, Cinderford, GL14 2AB. Tel: 01594 822113. Fax: 01594 826352 **************************************************************************** HERE YOU GO ITS THE ONLY ONE 1853 +/-2YRS Name: John Morgan Year of Registration: 1852 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Chepstow County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire Volume: 11a Page: 11 ************************************************************************** or this one but too early I think Name: John Morgan Year of Registration: 1850 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Chepstow County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire Volume: 26 Page: 81 ************************************************************************* Next one is 1859 so I reckon its the first one :~) Lesley :~)

JAN ******* No sorry there are no Sarah Guyler's in Basford 1841 :~( Only 1 Elizabeth b:c1815 +/- 10 yrs and that is the one living with John & Sarah you already have and it is Greasley.... There are tons of Pearson families in Basford 1841 so I have no idea who are yours if any :~( I am lost now and going more Loopy with this lot lol You need some birth certs to sort this lot out I think :~) Lesley :~)

JAN ******* After looking at the 1841's again 1st Family.... I THINK maybe Sarah is John's second wife as the youngest child Mary is aged 9 Months and the child above her is 21 yrs old that is a big age gap between 2 children.... all other info you have is the same as on image... Samuel 1770 (2nd Family) is the Head BUT I THINK they might be the Grandparents as they are both in the 70's and the children are all in their 20's... Ann (Wife) was not born in same county...Son Thomas OCC: Cotton Stacking. All other info you have is right. Im going to read the rest of your thread and see if I undrstand it lol Lesley :~)

OPEN FOR LOOK UPS AGAIN Lesley :~)

FRANCES *************** You are very welcome anytime :~) Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley, As always your investigations have been most thorough and enlightening. Thank you for all your efforts on the Kents of Ripley. Frances

GOT TO GO OUT NOW BACK LATER Lesley :~)

ANNIE *********** Here is 1871 they put the wrong Birth yrs but I have put in their ages as they are on the Image.. ADDRESS: 6 Warner? Place (south) Bethnal Green London Alfred Blackford abt 1841 ( AGE 30 ) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head OCC:Picture Frame Maker. Elizabeth Blackford abt 1840 (AGE 31 ) Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Wife OCC;Hair Net Maker. George Blackford abt 1851 (AGE 2 YRS ) Ratcliffe, Middlesex, England Son William Blackford abt 1860 (AGE 11 YRS ) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son OCC; Errand Boy. Alfred Blackford abt 1860 ( AGE ? ) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Samuel Blackford abt 1871 ( AGE 2 MONTHS ) Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Source information: RG10/493 Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Church ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 101 Page: 2 Household schedule number: 10 GSU Number: 823375 *************************************************************************** Sorry Cant find him in 1901 even did different spellings on surname and also just searched for all Alfred's and all Robert's and no sign of him anywhere :~(( Lesley :~)

FRANCES ************** Here is 1841 With John But No sign of Mother. ADDRESS:Clint Hamlet. Ripley Yorkshire John Kent abt 1811 Yorkshire, England OCC;Farmer. Elizabeth Kent abt 1826 Yorkshire, England Edward Kent abt 1838 Yorkshire, England >>>John Kent abt 1840 Yorkshire, England Source information: HO107/1286/5 Registration district: Knaresborough Sub-registration district: Harrogate ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 9 Page: 15 Line number: 1 GSU Number: 464251 ************************************************************************ Here is 1851 With John & Christopher. ADDRESS: High Clint.Ripley Yorkshire John Kent (Wid) abt 1809 Clint, Yorkshire, England Head OCC:Landed Proprietor / Occupy 46 Acres Edward Kent abt 1838 Clint, Yorkshire, England Son Farmers Son. Scholar. >>>John Kent abt 1840 Clint, Yorkshire, England Son >>>Christopher R Kent abt 1843 Clint, Yorkshire, England Son Hannah Topham (Wid) abt 1783 Kettlesing, Yorkshire, England Servant OCC:House Servant. Source information: HO107/2282 Registration district: Knaresborough Sub-registration district: Boroughbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 141 Page: 24 Household schedule number: 87 GSU Number: 87468 *************************************************************************** I cant find Thomas or William in any census's so I think they died??? Possible deaths for them? Name: Thomas Kent Year of Registration: 1845 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Knaresborough County: West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 23 Page: 274 ********************************************************** Name: William Kent Year of Registration: 1845 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Knaresborough County: West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 23 Page: 273 ********************************************************* Cant find anything apart from birth for Frances ********************************************************* Hope these help though Lesley :~)

Hi all Im open for look up for about an hour Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley Me again - hope you don't mind.Glad you like puzzles No hurry, just when you want something to do for a moment of boredom. You really are being such a big help on all this Could you look up again for me the following 2 families in the 1841 census and see if there are any details I've not been given, eg occupation for Samuel 1814 and Who is head in family 2? john 1791 f w k sarah 1781 samuel 1814 elizabeth 1819 ann 1820 mary 1840 living beggailee creasley (= greasley I think) ------ samuel 1770 ag lab ann 1765 samuel 1815 bleacher thomas 1821 george 1839 living back lane basford I have an possible theory emerging as I have just discovered that a Samuel Guyler married Elizabeth Guyler in 1845 (an Elizabeth is the mother of the later children) so this would possibly be my Samuel's 2nd marriage and his first which produced George and Mary Ann could be Samuel Guyler and Sarah Pearson in 1838. Maybe she died in childbirth? or soon after . So could you see also see if there is any sign of a Sarah Guyler (around the age of Samuel ie 1810 - 1820) in the 1841 census in Basford or any likely Pearson family in Basford. Also if there are any other Elizabeth Guylers (1815-1820) in Basford - her birth place is given as Beverlee (which = begailee =beaverlee = beggarlee - is counted later as Basford) If my hunch is correct, I think family 1 and 2 above,may be related. Sarah has just died, Mary Ann is staying with Aunt Sarah and Uncle John. My Samuel (1815 bleacher)is living with grandparents Samuel and Ann and his brother Thomas who help look after George who is 2. (Don't know where Samuel's parents are). Then Samuel marries the Elizabeth of family 1, his cousin in 1845 and the next baby arrives in 1847. The fact that in 1851 my Elizabeth and baby Mary Ann both list their birthplace as Beverlee (as opposed to Basford for Samuel and Georgesuggests it may be because she is at Begailee creasley (above) . If they had put relationships it would be a lot easier!! Thanks again Jan

Hi Lesley, Please could you check the 1841 and 1851 census for 5 Kent children all born Knaresborough District (FreeBMD). Frances Kent 1838 John Kent 1839 Christopher Keynore Kent 1842 William Kent 1843 Thomas Kent 1845 I would like to know if they are siblings and who their parents are? Many thanks, Frances

Hi Lesly Thanks again for looking Kind Regards Barbara.

I am Logging off now Back tomorrow Lesley :~)

JENNY ************ I still dont think I can help you but I know someone who MIGHT.. she has thread on here her name is Dorsetbabysearching4family I have nudged her thread for you.. I hope she can help but I am not positive she can but its worth asking :~) Good Luck Lesley :~)

Thanks Lesley, appreciate what you've found, and yes there seem to be hundreds of Daniels that came from the area i'm interested in. Thanks and good luck, Regards Michael