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PAM Can't find Elizabeth or Sarah Thacker on the 1841 or 1851 ... This could be Elizabeth on the 1861, Sarah now married, if so they were both born in Whitehaven, Cumbria: William White abt 1829 Whitehaven, Cumberland, Head, Sailor Sarah White abt 1828 Whitehaven, Cumberland, England Wife Georgina White abt 1860 Liverpool, Lancashire, Daughter Elizth Thacker abt 1800 Whitehaven, Cumberland, Mother-in-law Daniel Logan abt 1851 Liverpool, Lancashire, Lodger Address: 26 Bevington St, Liverpool Lancashire There is a Sarah White living with her cousin George Graham & his wife on the 1851, she was born in Cockermouth, Cumbria and her cousin born in Whitehaven. The address is in Toxteth park, Liverpool. Annette

AVRIL Can't find the Gorman family in Norfolk, 1841. I also searched for George (birth range 1821-1825) in all counties on the 1851 and only these 2 came up: George Gorman abt 1823 born Birmm, Warwickshire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire George Gorman abt 1825 Ireland Head Sheffield Yorkshire I have found John Bygrave & family on the 1851: John Bygrave abt 1825 St Miles Norwich Head Labourer Maria Bygrave abt 1826 St Benedict Norwich Wife Dress Maker Lovinia Bygrave abt 1846 Norwich Heigham Dau William Bygrave abt 1847 Norwich St Margaret Son Living in Norwich St Swithin Norfolk Is it possible that your Gorman's originated from Ireland? Annette

Thankyou for trying, Annette. They were definitely born in Norwich--or at least recorded that on other documents!!! Avril

HELEN This looks like them on the 1841: Thomas Durrant abt 1791 Ag.Lab Lucy Durrant abt 1796 Martha Durrant abt 1781 Robert Durrant abt 1826 Ag.Lab Thomas Durrant abt 1826 Ag.Lab William Durrant abt 1827 Sarah Durrant abt 1829 Sophia Durrant abt 1832 Address: looks like Fin/Fen Street, Buxall, Suffolk. All born in the county of Suffolk. Same family on the 1851: Thomas Durrant abt 1789 Buxhall, Suffolk, Head, Ag.Labourer Lucy Durrant abt 1793 Rattlesden, Suffolk, Wife Sarah Durrant abt 1830 Buxhall, Suffolk, Daughter Sophia Durrant abt 1832 Buxhall, Suffolk, Daughter Address: Fen Street, Buxhall, Suffolk On the 1861: Thomas Durrant abt 1789 Buxhall, Suffolk, Head, Ag.Labourer Lucy Durrant abt 1793 Buxhall, Suffolk, England Wife Sophia Durrant abt 1832 Buxhall, Suffolk, Daughter Address: Fen Street, Buxhall Suffolk On the 1871: Lucy Durrant abt 1793 Rattlesden, Suffolk, Head Sophia Durrant abt 1832 Buxhall, Suffolk, Dau, Dressmaker Thomas Durrant abt 1848 Buxhall, Suffolk, Grandson, Ag.Lab Address: Cedar Cottage, Buxhall Suffolk Annette

THANKS ANNETTE FOR YOUR TIME. I'M PROBABLY MORE CONFUSED THAN EVER NOW BUT WILL KEEP ON LOOKING..ONCE AGAIN THANKS JODIE IN OZ

Hi Annette, I would be most grateful if you would look the following people up in the 1841 & 1851 census - they may or may not be in the same household. John Barnes b abt 1829 Yalding, Kent Richard Barnes b abt 1830 Yalding, Kent Peter Barnes b abt 1816 Teston, Kent If you could also look up their parents if they are not in the same household. Peter Barnes b. ca 1778 Yalding, Kent Diana Barnes b. ca 1789 Teston, Kent Thank you so much Liz

Liz, Your Barnes family on the 1841: Peter Barnes abt 1786 Kent, Occ: Ag.Lab Dianab Barnes abt 1796 Kent, Peter Barnes abt 1826 Kent, Occ: Ag.Lab Elizabeth Barnes abt 1827 Kent, John Barnes abt 1829 Kent, Richard Barnes abt 1831 Kent, Living at Benover, Yalding , Kent. All born in the county of Kent. Only one Richard Barnes born in Kent on the 1851: Richard Barnes abt 1831 Kent, England Lodger Occ: Labourer He is a lodger of Edmond O'Brien & family - Chelsea Middlesex JOHN BARNES (No.1) on 1851: John Barnes abt 1831 Eltham, Kent, Head Occ: Smith Harriet Barnes abt 1826 Bromley, Kent, England Wife John Barnes abt 1850 Bromley, Kent, England Son Kidbrooke Kent JOHN BARNES (No2) on 1851: Abraham Brenchley abt 1826 Chart, Kent, Head Eliza Brenchley abt 1829 Pluckley, Kent, Wife Pluckley Kent Thirza C Brenchley abt 1850 Pluckley, Kent, England Daughter Edward Pillet abt 1824 N Lodger Pluckley Kent John Barnes abt 1828 Pluckley, Kent, Lodger Occ: Farm Lab. Pluckly, Kent No luck with Peter & Diana & Peter Jnr on the 1851. Annette

Sheila & Helen, I have e-mailed you the censi copies. Annette

Hi Annette, Thank you so very much for that. You are a gem!!! Liz :~)

SUE This is what I found on the 1871, unfortunately none of them fit with the occupation of your John Stedman in 1861 (Clerk): 1ST FAMILY: John Stedman abt 1821 Cranleigh, Surrey, England Head Occ: Carter (Ag.Lab) Mary A Stedman abt 1822 Cranleigh, Surrey, Wife Mark Stedman abt 1847 Cranleigh, Surrey, England Nephew John Stedman abt 1861 West Horsley, Surrey, Mary A Stedman abt 1863 West Horsley, Surrey, Daughter Mary Haines abt 1856 Cranleigh, Surrey, England Niece Keepers Lodge, Polesden, Bagden Gate, Great Bookham, Surrey. 2ND FAMILY: Mary Ann Stedman abt 1792 Bures Hamlet Head William Stedman abt 1818 Bures Hamlet Son John Stedman abt 1822 Bures Hamlet Son Occ: Porter (Unmarried) Charles Stedman abt 1833 Bures Hamlet Son Sarah Ann Stedman abt 1857 Bures St Mary, Suffolk, Granddaughter Valley Stedman abt 1859 Bures St Mary Granddaughter Water Lane, Bures Essex 3RD FAMILY: John Stedman abt 1822 Petworth, Sussex, Head Occ: Shoe Maker & Town Crier. (Unmarried) Jane Stedman abt 1821 Petworth, Sussex, England Sister John Stedman abt 1794 Petworth, Sussex, Father Fanny Elizth Stedman abt 1842 Petworth, Sussex, Sister John Stedman White abt 1863 Fulham, Middlesex, Nephew Albert Wm White abt 1864 Fulham, Middlesex, Nephew Back Street, Petworth Sussex Annette

SUE John's age doesn't fit but as this was the right area I thought I'd post it for you, you may find a connection later: 1871: John Stedman abt 1833 Rochester, Kent, Head Occ: Corn Dealer Mary A Stedman abt 1826 Harriestham, Kent, Wife Thomas Stedman abt 1852 Rochester, Kent, Son Address: 51 Seymour Place, Marylebone. Also found this one (1871): John Stedman abt 1819 Rainham, Kent, England Head Occ: Farm Bailiff Mary A Stedman abt 1822 Rainham, Kent, England Wife Emma Stedman abt 1860 Chalk, Kent, England Daughter Clara Stedman abt 1870 Chalk, Kent, England Daughter John Stedman abt 1864 Chalk, Kent, England Living in Chalk, Kent

Hi was wondering if you could help me find the actual birth of a Francis Burnyeat Stephenson. He's my great Grandad. Died in 1961 aged 49 allegedly was born in 1912 but cant find anyone to meet these requirements. was born in either Whitehaven or Washington. any help would be appriciated. cheers andy

ANDREW Couldn't find anything listed with middle name Burnyeat. These were the ones from this area on Free BMD: Francis Stephenson 1907 Sep Qtr Newcastle Upon Tyne Francis Stephenson 1909 Sep Qtr Stockton, Co. Durham, Francis Stephenson 1910 Mar Qtr Morpeth, Co. Durham, Northumberland And these 4 names were listed on Free BMD (could be connected): Marriages Jun QTR 1900 Burnyeat Elizabeth Stephenson Joseph Crisp William Loughran Ellen Whitehaven 10b 1241 Have you contacted the Resgister Offices of the two areas? Usually, if you know the parents names, they will do a 5 year search. Annette

Annette, Thanks for your kind offer. Could you please look in 1841 & 1851 census for : James Court b.abt 1805 possibly Hulme, Manchester Lancs James Phillips Court b. 1837 Manchester and any other family listed with them. Regards, Kay

KAY Can't find James or Philip on the 1841/1851. It is possible that the name was mis-transcribed, I did a few more 'sound like' searches but nothing came up that matched. I have found this family on the 1861 (which you may already have): Edward Court abt 1840 Manchester, Lancashire, Nephew Gorge Court abt 1822 Manchester, Lancashire, Head Occ: Blacksmith Hannah Court abt 1847 Manchester, Lancashire, Daughter James Court abt 1805 Hulme, Lancashire, Brother (Widowed) Occ: Porter William Court abt 1845 Manchester, Lancashire, Son Elizabeth Miles abt 1848 Manchester, Lancashire, Stepdaughter 22 Broughton Street, Salford Lancashire

Annette, Another mystery - James Court is proving to be very elusive! I think this family in 1861 shows his father James and brother Edward. Thanks for your time and effort - much appreciated. Regards, Kay

Hi Annette, Thank you for your offer. It is very generous. Can you please do a look up for me on the 1841 census. James/Jon Lewsley b abt 1785. Could be living with (son) John Lewsley b. 1804 near Aldenham Street, Pancras, London. Could also be listed as Somers Town (old name for that region). Regards, Lynne (in Aust.)

Jane, No trace of Daniel (with father Samuel) on the 1901, there are quite alot of Samuel Whitehouses in the Staffordshire/Warwickshire area on the 1901 - do you know the name of Daniel's mother? I presume this is Lucy/Ernest: Birth Index Lucy Frear 1900 Sep quarter Aston Warwickshire Death Index: Ernest Frear abt (1873) 1908 Jun quarter Aston Warwickshire I found Ernest (c.1873) on the 1881 but no trace after this.

Hi Annette Thanks for your offer. Can you look up William Crossley on the 1861and 1871 censuses please? He was born c1851 in Carlton, Leeds, West Yorkshire and its likely he would have still been in this area in 1861 and 1871 Thanks very much Steph :)

Lynne, I searched birth range 1775-1790 (all counties) for James/Jon/John Lewsley but found nothing that matched. I think I have found his son, John on the 1841: John Lewsley abt 1804 Middlesex, Occ: Carver & Gilder Jas Lewsley abt 1827 Middlesex, John Lewsley abt 1829 Middlesex, Goldington Street, St Pancras Middlesex