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Do the 1891 & 1901 give Ellen as a Widow ?

Fuller family on 1861: Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Adam Fuller abt 1831 Holtin, Norfolk, England Head Susan Fuller abt 1836 Friskney, Lincolnshire, England Wife John Hy Fuller abt 1860 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Skipped to 1841: Elizabeth Fuller abt 1821 Norfolk, England Holt Norfolk (Dress maker) Samuel Fuller abt 1826 Norfolk, England Holt Norfolk Adam Fuller abt 1832 Norfolk, England Holt Norfolk Just these three in house....

based on Heather's find...........1881 Name: Ellen E. Fuller Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Female Where Born: Grimsby, Lincoln, England Civil parish: Great Grimsby County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: 83 Kent St Education: Employment status: View image Source information: RG11/3269 Registration district: Caistor Sub registration district: Great Grimsby ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 32 Page: 10 Reg

... If Heather has found the correct marriage: Then this is Ellen E on the 1871... Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Adam Fuller abt 1831 Holt, Norfolk, England Head Susan Fuller abt 1837 Friskney, Lincolnshire, England Wife John H Fuller abt 1860 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Ellen E Fuller abt 1862 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Sarah Fuller abt 1864 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Samuel A Fuller abt 1867 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son William Fuller abt 1869 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Charles Fuller abt 1870 Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son

Another child's birth reg'n............ Name: John William Playl Year of Registration: 1883 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Caistor County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 645 Reg.

Rachel Why 'couldn't' they? John does not appear with the family, so you simply don't know................ The daughter's birth cert is a absolute 'must' for you Reg

Marriage Sept 1882 Caistor 7a 1013 John Playl and Ellen Elizabeth Fuller on Freebmd Heather

Maybe his name wasn't John ......... Marriages Dec 1890 Playle John Pancras 1b 323 Proctor Ellen Julia Pancras 1b 323 Julia doesn't fit either ....

They couldn have come from Essex Elaine.....

All the Playle's I'm finding are coming up in Essex. (1871 census) Found a Marriage of a John Playle to Ellen ... in Maldon, Essex .... as well :-( Marriages Mar 1887 PLAYLE John Maldon 4a 371 WARD Ellen Baxter Maldon 4a 371 Baxter doesn't fit !

You need this birth cert.......... Name: Lizzie Ellen Playle Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Caistor County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 617 Reg

I dont know for sure Reg.... that's why I put 'I think'.....as I know that is where he lived.....

As John doesn't appear on either 1891 or 1901, what makes you say he was born in Grimsby? Found this chap in 1881 John Playle abt 1861 Maldon, Essex, England Lodger Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Occupation: Fisherman Reg

Certainly am Elaine.....Most of my Playle family are now dead, except my mother and my Nan who isnt in a mental state to know anything and there are literally no records..... But No I dont know her maiden name or where they married.... it is driving me nuts....

1901: I think these are they? Alfred Playle abt 1888 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Charles Playle abt 1900 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Ellen Elizabeth Playle abt 1863 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Head Great Grimsby John Wm Playle abt 1884 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lizzie E Playle abt 1890 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Great Grimsby Quite an age gap between Charles 1900 and Lizze 1890. * update, I see you've now got all this, will check back later to see if you still need help. Mags. x

And 1891 Alfred Plage abt 1888 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire View Record Elen Plage abt 1863 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Head Great Grimsby Lincolnshire View Record Elizabeth Plage abt 1890 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Great Grimsby Lincolnshire View Record John W Plage abt 1884 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Reg

So, you don't know Ellen's maiden name, or where/when they married ? Are you now trying to find details on the parents and working backwards ? Elaine ;-))

Hello Reg, Here goes: John William Playle - 1884 Grimsby Alfred Playle - 1888 Grimsby Lizzie E Playle - 1890 Grimsby Charles Playle - 1899 Grimsby

OK.......found them in 1901 Alfred Playle abt 1888 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire View Record Charles Playle abt 1900 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire View Record Ellen Elizabeth Playle abt 1863 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Head Great Grimsby Lincolnshire View Record John Wm Playle abt 1884 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Son Great Grimsby Lincolnshire View Record Lizzie E Playle abt 1890 Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Great Grimsby Lincolnshire Reg

Firstly, please.............names, ages and birthplaces of the children? Reg