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Hi Agaik Penny, This is the info i have on Thomas and Eliza, when i got this i had been searching for their marriage, but couldn't find it, but with the name Eliza instead of Alice i found a probable marriage, going to send for cert next week, but have no info at all on Eliza. Thanks for the help Penny. Best wishes Jean 1881 thomas gillick 1847 laborour allice 1848 mary dau 1870 eliza dau 1872 margaret dau 1875 ELIZABETH dau 1878 living 27 hurst st west derby lancs 1871 thomas, instead of alice they have eliza and mary were living with cullen family. .

David -Frances Yes - so we were, lol. Will take another look tommorow as I'm obviously in need of a break. Back tommorow Nite Pen x

I don't wish to upset you Pen but we were on William? David

Hi Pen, did you manage to get another room decorated during your break? I don't have the '71 but he got married in 1870 I believe, in Bradford so he might give an age to match up with a previous. I found births for '38, '39 and a '40 in FreeBMD. Of course it's the David half of Frances thats leading you this merry dance...

Frances - CONTINUED 1851 - The only one that matches View Record Abel Craven abt 1816 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Head Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Yorkshire View Record Elizabeth Craven abt 1844 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Yorkshire View Record Henry E Craven abt 1847 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Son Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Yorkshire View Record Joshua Craven abt 1850 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Son Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Yorkshire View Record Martha Craven abt 1842 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Yorkshire View Record Sarah Craven abt 1811 Thorp, Yorkshire, England Wife Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Yorkshire View Record William Craven abt 1840 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Son Stanley cum Wrenthorpe Yorkshire Source information: HO107/2326 Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Bretton ED, institution, or vessel: 1h Folio: 537 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 62 GSU Number: 87562-87564 1861 - the closest match found - View Record John Brewster abt 1831 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Son Doncaster Yorkshire View Record Mary Brewster abt 1797 Haxey, Lincolnshire, England Head Doncaster Yorkshire View Record George Craven abt 1835 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Boarder Doncaster Yorkshire Source information: RG9/3519 Registration district: Doncaster Sub-registration district: Doncaster ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 8 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 61 GSU Number: 543145 His occupation is down as labourer Have you got him on the 1871 cenus? Pen x

Frances Hi Frances. Never actually quitted, just took a break from here for a couple of months....feel all refreshed now, lol. Pen x Trying to narrow it down - going back to 1841 - 1881 for my ref View Record Annie Craven abt 1856 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Wife Manningham Yorkshire View Record Harry Craven abt 1874 Bford, Yorkshire, England Son Manningham Yorkshire View Record Louisia Craven abt 1879 Bford, Yorkshire, England Daughter Manningham Yorkshire View Record Walter Craven abt 1877 Bford, Yorkshire, England Son Manningham Yorkshire View Record William Craven abt 1839 Wakefield Head Manningham Yorkshire 1841 View Record Ann Craven abt 1806 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Elizabeth Craven abt 1834 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record James Craven abt 1837 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Jane Craven abt 1827 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Thomas Craven abt 1838 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record William Craven abt 1841 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire Source information: HO107/1271/9 Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Stanley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 16 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Line number: 7 GSU Number: 464241 or View Record Ann Craven abt 1835 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Eliza Craven abt 1826 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Elizabeth Craven abt 1828 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record John Craven abt 1806 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Sarah Craven abt 1806 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record William Craven abt 1839 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire Source information: HO107/1272/5 Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Wakefield ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Folio: 20 Page: 32 (click to see others on page) Line number: 25 GSU Number: 464242 or View Record Benjamin Craven abt 1836 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record George Craven abt 1832 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Jane Craven abt 1806 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record John Craven abt 1830 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Sarah Craven abt 1781 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Sarah Craven abt 1834 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record William Craven abt 1806 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record William Craven abt 1839 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire Source information: HO107/1272/7 Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Wakefield ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 45 Page: 32 (click to see others on page) Line number: 23 GSU Number: 464242 or View Record Abel Craven abt 1821 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Ann Craven abt 1839 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record Sarah Craven abt 1811 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire View Record William Craven abt 1840 Yorkshire, England Wakefield Yorkshire

Hi Pen, Glad to see you are back - couldn't fight the addiction any longer? I recall somebody saying when you quitted that you would not be long away! This one is right up your street - William Craven is shown as born Wakefield, age 42 and Whitesmith in the 1881 census, are you able to pin point him in 1851 or 61 please? (He is in Bradford with family in '81) Many thanks, Frances

Hi Pen Thank you so much for the Craig info, especially as I gave you nothing to go on. Kind regards Wendy

Hi Pen, had a look through all my papers but cant find anything abt John Hurrell at all regards Karen

Hi Jean Do you have them together on any census please - for my ref? Pen x

Hi Penny, I'm asking for your help yet again. I have Eliza Dixon b c 1857 Liverpool married to Thomas Gillick b c 1846 Ireland. I have lots on the Gillick family but can find nothing on Eliza Dixon, hope you can help. Thanks in advance Jean

Wendy 1841 View Record Ann Craig abt 1836 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record Jame Craig abt 1807 Manchester Lancashire View Record James Craig abt 1801 Scotland Manchester Lancashire View Record James Craig abt 1838 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record Richd Craig abt 1831 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record William Craig abt 1840 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire information: HO107/570/14 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Deansgate ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Folio: 6 Page: 6 (click to see others on page) Line number: 13 GSU Number: 438722 and View Record Ann Cooney abt 1816 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record Bridget Craig abt 1781 Ireland Manchester Lancashire View Record Eliza Craig abt 1834 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record James Craig abt 1840 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record John Craig abt 1838 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire View Record Mary Craig abt 1811 Lancashire, England Manchester Lancashire Source information: HO107/570/21 Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Deansgate ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Folio: 35 Page: 16 (click to see others on page) Line number: 7 GSU Number: 438722 *************************************************** Pen x

Hi Pen Could you try an1841/51 census lookup for James Craig born 1836 ish in Ireland could be in Manchester at these times, sorry I have no other info on him. Hope you can help. Many thanks Wendy

Lucia 1871 View Record Richd Cambridge abt 1796 Cannock, Staffordshire, England Father-in-law Rugeley Staffordshire View Record Charles Harvey abt 1833 Longdon, Staffordshire, England Head Rugeley Staffordshire View Record Charles Harvey abt 1857 Armitage, Staffordshire, England Son Rugeley Staffordshire View Record George Harvey abt 1859 Armitage, Staffordshire, England Son Rugeley Staffordshire View Record Henry Harvey abt 1861 Armitage, Staffordshire, England Son Rugeley Staffordshire View Record John Harvey abt 1870 Rugeley, Staffordshire, England Son Rugeley Staffordshire View Record Mary Harvey abt 1832 Longdon, Staffordshire, England Wife Rugeley Staffordshire View Record Robert Harvey abt 1866 Armitage, Staffordshire, England Son Rugeley Staffordshire View Record Sarah Harvey abt 1866 Armitage, Staffordshire, England Daughter Rugeley Staffordshire Source information: RG10/2919 Registration district: Lichfield Sub-registration district: Rugeley ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 102 Page: 20 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 108 GSU Number: 836408

Hi Pen, i dont know anything else abt him yet but will try and find out some more after i have got kids tea out the way, regards Karen

Added by Karen Edwards on 10/07/2006 14:52:44 Hi, could you plz do a lookup in 1891 and 1901 for me if you have the time, Im looking for Isabella Catherine Gasson born abt 1861 in Bloomsbury (St Giles), Middlesex. She married in march 1886 in St saviour to John Hurrell, many thanks Karen *************************************************************************** Have you any info on the husband, as I am unable to spot her? Pen x

Hi Penelope, Thank you so much for your time. Sorry I didn't give enough relevant information. Would you be able to find him before 1871? Here is what I know: Charles Harvey, born c1833 (Rugeley/Longdon) married his wife Mary in 1856 and had children: Charles Harvey, born c1857 in Armitage George Harvey, born c1859 in Armitage Henry Harvey, born c1860 in Armitage Robert Harvey, born c1866 in Armitage Sarah Harvey, born c1866 in Armitage John Harvey, born c1870 in Rugeley Alfred Harvey, born c1873 in Armitage Mary Ann Harvey, born c1876 in Armitage On 1881 census: Charles HARVEY Head W Male 48 Longdon, Stafford, England Coal Miner Charles HARVEY Son U Male 24 Armitage, Stafford, England Coal Miner Henry HARVEY Son U Male 20 Armitage, Stafford, England Coal Miner Robert HARVEY Son Male 15 Armitage, Stafford, England Farm Labourer Sarah HARVEY Daur Female 15 Armitage, Stafford, England John HARVEY Other Male 11 Armitage, Stafford, England Alfred HARVEY Other Male 8 Armitage, Stafford, England Mary Ann HARVEY Other Female 5 Armitage, Stafford, England Thanks :-)

hi penelepe thank you for your time tracy

Tracey Hazell Hi Tracey 1901 View Record Nancy Craig abt 1879 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Lancaster Lancashire View Record Robert William Craig abt 1876 Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Head Lancaster Lancashire View Record Robert Wm Craig abt 1901 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Son Lancaster Lancashire View Record Agnes H Webster abt 1882 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Lodger Lancaster Lancashire View Record John Webster abt 1850 Lancaster, Lancashire, England Lodger Lancaster Lancashire View Record William Welsh abt 1883 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Brother-in-law Lancaster Lancashire Source information: RG13/3988 Registration district: Lancaster Sub-registration district: Lancaster ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 175 Page: 11 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 51 Civil parish: Lancaster Ecclesiastical parish: Lancaster Christchurch Town: Lancaster County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Address - 11 Woodville Street Occupation of head - Bricklayers labourer

Patricia What about this one - ties in with the info from the 1861 when Mary Ann is married ? 1841 View Record Ann Hitchcox abt 1837 Oxfordshire, England Alkerton Oxfordshire View Record David Hitchcox abt 1834 Oxfordshire, England Alkerton Oxfordshire View Record Mary Hitchcox abt 1811 Alkerton Oxfordshire View Record Mary Hitchcox abt 1839 Oxfordshire, England Alkerton Oxfordshire View Record Richard Hitchcox abt 1832 Oxfordshire, England Alkerton Oxfordshire View Record Sophia Hitchcox abt 1830 Oxfordshire, England Alkerton Oxfordshire View Record William Hitchcox abt 1811 Alkerton Oxfordshire No addy but occupation of head is listed as Ag Lab Source information: HO107/875/6 Registration district: Banbury Sub-registration district: Swalcliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 5 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) Line number: 21 GSU Number: 474572 Pen x