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Could you please see if you could find Richard Joseph Edmonds on previous census, on later ones he is down as Joseph Edmonds, not sure if that would help. 1881 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability R.J. EDMONDS Head M Male 43 Weston Turville, Buckingham, England Hay Binder (Ag Lab) E. EDMONDS Wife M Female 40 Wendover, Buckingham, England R.J. EDMONDS Son Male 15 Wendover, Buckingham, England Hay Binder Albert EDMONDS Son Male 12 Wendover, Buckingham, England Hay Binder Elizabeth EDMONDS Daur Female 9 Wendover, Buckingham, England Scholar George EDMONDS Son Female 5 Wendover, Buckingham, England Scholar William EDMONDS Son Male 4 Wendover, Buckingham, England Scholar John EDMONDS Son Male 3 Wendover, Buckingham, England Scholar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Cold Harbour Census Place Wendover, Buckingham, England Family History Library Film 1341356 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1469 / 8 Page Number 10 Many thanks for your time Jan 1871 View Record Albert Edmunds abt 1869 Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England Son Wendover Buckinghamshire View Record Elizabeth Edmunds abt 1842 Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Wendover Buckinghamshire View Record Elizabeth Edmunds abt 1870 Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Wendover Buckinghamshire View Record Joseph Edmunds abt 1839 Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England Head Wendover Buckinghamshire View Record Joseph Edmunds abt 1866 Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England Son Wendover Buckinghamshire Source information: RG10/1408 Registration district: Wycombe Sub-registration district: Wendover ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 30 Page: 14 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 79 GSU Number: 828766 Occupation of head - Hay binder Addy - looks like chander row - no number given Pen x

Annie - Hun, if I could of spotted him I would of popped 41 on aswell, lol. Looked for a marriage - nothing on the easy search bit. There is one for a David Marlton - no bride to match though - in Thingoe, so thought he might be a rellie and tried looking on 41 for him - nowt. Pen x

Sandra ************************************************************************** 1881 for my ref - Ada Evans abt 1876 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Walcot Somerset Albert Evans abt 1870 Bath, Somerset, England Son Walcot Somerset Annie Evans abt 1869 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Walcot Somerset Edmund Evans abt 1831 Bridgewater, Somerset, England Head Walcot Somerset Edmund J. Evans abt 1866 Bath, Somerset, England Son Walcot Somerset George Evans abt 1877 Bath, Somerset, England Son Walcot Somerset Louisa Evans abt 1844 Bath, Somerset, England Wife Walcot Somerset Robert W. Evans abt 1868 Bath, Somerset, England Son Walcot Somerset Walter Evans abt 1873 Bath, Somerset, England Son Walcot Somerset You have not mentioned the 1871 census...... Albert Evans abt 1870 Bath, Somerset, England Son Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset Edmond Evans abt 1831 Bridgewater, Somerset, England Head Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset Edwin Evans abt 1866 Bath, Somerset, England Son Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset Louisa Evans abt 1869 Bath, Somerset, England Daughter Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset Robert Evans abt 1867 Bath, Somerset, England Son Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset ************************* 61 and 51 ************************* 1841 ? Possibly View Record Edmund Evans abt 1831 Somerset, England Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset View Record Elizabeth Evans abt 1826 Somerset, England Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset View Record George Evans abt 1836 Somerset, England Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset View Record James Evans abt 1801 Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset View Record James Evans abt 1829 Somerset, England Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset View Record Jane Evans abt 1806 Somerset, England Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset View Record Jane Evans abt 1840 Lyncombe and Widcombe Somerset 1851 - This looks like two of the family members from the 1841 View Record George Evans abt 1835 Bridgewater, Somerset, England Visitor Bridgwater Somerset View Record James Evans abt 1797 Nowland, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Bridgwater Somerset View Record Charlotte Sillick abt 1830 Stomdwater, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bridgwater Somerset View Record John Sillick abt 1823 Bridgewater, Somerset, England Head Bridgwater Somerset

thank you for the help,much appreciated...sandra

Hi Pen On the 1891 I have James Robson head aged 32 Coal Miner Hannah his wife aged 48 born North Shields with William Willis step son (Hannh's son) aged 19 Can you trace Hannah on 1901 census please

Isobel Added by Isobel McEwan on 06/07/2006 13:51:34 Hi Pen On the 1891 I have James Robson head aged 32 Coal Miner Hannah his wife aged 48 born North Shields with William Willis step son (Hannh's son) aged 19 Can you trace Hannah on 1901 census please ******************************************************* 1891 for my ref Hannah Robson abt 1843 No Shields, Northumberland, England Wife Kyo Durham Hannah Robson abt 1883 Harton, Durham, England Adopted Daughter Kyo Durham James Robson abt 1859 Gateshead, Durham, England Head Kyo Durham Jno Robson abt 1881 Heworth, Durham, England Son Kyo Durham Fenwick Willis abt 1875 Lanchester, Durham, England Stepson Kyo Durham Wm Willis abt 1872 Chester-le-Street, Durham, England Stepson Kyo Durham This could be them in 1901............... View Record Robt Longstaff abt 1881 Bishop Auckland Lodger Kyo Durham View Record Hannah Robson abt 1842 Shields Wife Kyo Durham View Record Jas K Robson abt 1858 Gateshead Head Kyo Durham View Record Jno B Robson abt 1880 Shields Son Kyo Durham View Record Martha Robson abt 1881 Lanchester Daughter-in-law Kyo Durham View Record Mary Rogers abt 1838 Shields Sister Kyo Durham Source information: RG13/4666 Registration district: Lanchester Sub-registration district: Tanfield ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 32 Page: 56 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 293 ** Occupation of James (image is abreviated James) - coal miner Pen x

Pen, could you help with my nightmare Jones's? 1891 Robert Jones Head age 56 (dob 13-6-1833) stone mason b capelcerry (probably capelcurig) N Wales Catherine Jones (nee Griffith) (dob 10-12-1840) age 50 Bethesda N Wales John William Jones son 19 Hairdresser Widnes Lancs Grace Ellen Jones dtr 19 Widnes Lancs twins born 13.6.1871 I have them at 20 Church St Widnes Lancs on this census Ref RG12/3011 I cannot seem to find them on previous censii could you have a go for me as I just end up tying myself in knots. Also betwen 1862 and 1868 they had 4 other children who may appear somewhere 1862-1864 Richard 1864-1865 Robert 1866-1869 Grace Ellen (1st) 1868 Catherine Jane (married 1888) Any help would be much appreciated and if you are successful could you tell me how you did it for future reference. Thank you so much Jen

Jen 1891 for my ref Record Catherine Jones abt 1841 Bethesda, N Wales, Wales Wife Widnes Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Jones abt 1881 Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes Lancashire View Record Grace F Jones abt 1872 Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes Lancashire View Record John W Jones abt 1872 Widnes, Lancashire, England Son Widnes Lancashire View Record Robert Jones abt 1835 Capelcarry, N Wales, Wales Head Widnes Lancashire Source information: RG12/3011 Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Folio: 36 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6098121 Please can you share the source of info regarding the other children - Pen x ****UPDATE some progress made, lol. 1881 View Record Catherine Jons abt 1841 Bethesda, Caernarvonshire, Wales Wife Widnes Lancashire View Record Catherine J. Jons abt 1868 Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes Lancashire View Record Elizabeth Jons Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes Lancashire View Record Grace E. Jons abt 1872 Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes Lancashire View Record John W. Jons abt 1872 Widnes, Lancashire, England Son Widnes Lancashire View Record Robert Jons abt 1833 Bangor, Caernarvonshire, Wales Head Widnes Lancashire View Record William E. Jons abt 1879 Bethesda, Caernarvonshire, Wales Son Widnes Lancashire Source information: RG11/3724 Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 78 Page: 76 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 1341892 Address : 21 Cholmondley St Occupation of head : Stone Mason ***************************************************** 1871 View Record Catherine Jones abt 1841 North Wales, Bethesda Wife Widnes Lancashire View Record Catherine J Jones abt 1869 Widnes, Lancashire, England Daughter Widnes Lancashire View Record Robert Jones abt 1843 North Wales, Chapel Cery Head Widnes Lancashire Source information: RG10/3859 Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 60 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 106 GSU Number: 841933 Addy - 19 cromwell Street Occupation - stone mason Can not spot them on the 1861 - waiting to hear back from you with regards to your source of 'other' children. Pen x

Pen, Whoopeee - you dont know how hard i tried the 1881 but NEVER thought that Jones would have been spelt wrong!!!! I mean JONES for goodness sake!! Just shows how much of a newbie i am, thank you SO much. The dates of the other children i got from the usual welsh bible source but it gives no other clues than that. 21 Cholmondley st is interesting too Graces husband to be lived down the road and i wondered how they met. Great answers - thank you for your time and effort they're much appreciated. The only other possibility is 1881 welsh census William Griffith babt 1812 at 41 Clifodau st Llanllechid is Catherine Jones father. Could I ask - when you transferred the info i gave you to a 'for my ref' post - how did you do that? for the future - thanks again Jenx

..The secret is to use one persons details at a time. Using the minimum of info is best. For example - catherine, born 1840, +/- 5 yrs Beth* (wild card*) as place names were often spelt incorrectly or mistranscribed especially the Welsh ones, lol. With regards to posting your message onto mine, pprint my message and follow the instructions. It might sound complicated - but really it's not. x Method for copy and paste:- Using your mouse, click down on the left mouse button HOLDING it down and dragging it down over the work you wish to move. This highlights the piece/text. Remove your finger Find on your keypad the control button (ctrl) usually on the lft hand bottom of the keyboard. Hold down the ctrl button and then type on the letter c Go to the page where you wish to add the piece/text. Click on your left button on the mouse again which will place your cursor where the script/text will appear. Hold down the ctrl button and press the letter v. The script/text should now be where you want it. Try it with this - see if you can post this on my thread ! Why oh why are all the names that I am researching mistranscribed ! Pen x Whey hey aren't i clever!!!!!! Thank you pen for being so patient and helpful - were you a teacher in another life ? - a good one too! Thanks - I'm going to practice this now at every opportunity. Best Wishes Jenx

Hi Pen The Robson family it is mine Thanks Isobel

Hi Pen, Good to see you back again, thought you would of made more of the lovely weather? I,m looking for info on a Rose Sherwin Bagglee born Hartlepool 1876. I have her in the 1881 and 1901but am also looking for info on her parents in previous census. Regards Richard

Richard Hiya, just can't keep away from you all, lol. 1881 for my ref View Record Elizh. Baglee abt 1840 Hartlepool, Durham, England Wife Hartlepool Durham View Record Elizh.J. Baglee abt 1866 Spennymoor, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Katherine Baglee abt 1874 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Margt. Baglee abt 1870 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Martha Baglee abt 1872 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Mary Baglee abt 1865 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Rose Sherwin Baglee abt 1878 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Thomas Baglee abt 1834 Usworth, Durham, England Head Hartlepool Durham View Record Thomas Baglee abt 1863 Hartlepool, Durham, England Son Hartlepool Durham ************************************* 1891 for ref Catherine P Baglee abt 1873 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Throston Durham View Record Elizabeth Baglee abt 1842 Hartlepool, Durham, England Head Throston Durham View Record Martha Baglee abt 1871 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Throston Durham View Record Rose Sherwin Baglee abt 1876 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Throston Durham Head - window and laundress ************************************* 1871 View Record Cathrine Baglee abt 1871 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Elizabeth Baglee abt 1841 Hartlepool, Durham, England Wife Hartlepool Durham View Record Elizabeth Baglee abt 1866 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Margaret Baglee abt 1868 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Mary Baglee abt 1864 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Thomas Baglee abt 1829 Gateshead, Durham, England Head Hartlepool Durham View Record Thomas Baglee abt 1862 Hartlepool, Durham, England Son Hartlepool Durham Source information: RG10/4916 Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 14 Page: 22 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 128 GSU Number: 848014 Addy - 20 Evered Street Occupation - Engine smith ************************************* 1861 Record Elizabeth Baglee abt 1840 Hartlepool, Durham, England Wife Hartlepool Durham View Record Elizabeth Baglee abt 1861 Hartlepool, Durham, England Daughter Hartlepool Durham View Record Thomas Baglee abt 1831 Gateshead, Durham, England Head Hartlepool Durham Heads occupation - blacksmith Source information: RG9/3701 Registration district: Hartlepool Sub-registration district: Hartlepool ED, institution, or vessel: 17g Folio: 61 Page: 24 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 120 GSU Number: 543174 ************************************* Birth entry for the 1st Elizabeth born 1861 Name: Elizabeth Baglee Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Hartlepool (1859-1938) County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 103 (click to see others on page) Marriage entry found on Ancestry *View Record Thomas Baglee 1859 Oct-Nov-Dec Hartlepool (1859-1938) Co. Durham View Record Eleanor Downey 1859 Oct-Nov-Dec Hartlepool (1859-1938) Co. Durham View Record Johnson Errington 1859 Oct-Nov-Dec Hartlepool (1859-1938) Co. Durham *View Record Lsbeth Hogg 1859 Oct-Nov-Dec Hartlepool (1859-1938) Co. Durham Thomas Baglee Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Hartlepool (1859-1938) County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 127 (click to see others on page) Pen x

Hi Penelope Thanks for your kind offer. Would you try and locate a John and Margaret Donohoe / Donoghue / Donaghue, etc., etc., in the 1871 and 1851 Census for Middlesex please. Margaret was born in Ireland circa 1816 - not sure where or when John was born yet. They had a son Michael born in 1855 in Rotherhithe, Surrey who was my g-grandfather. Many thanks Glenys

Hi Glenys Can you give me the details from the 1861 census please or any other info at all? Pen x 1851 notes only View Record Ann Donoghue abt 1812 Southwk, Surrey, England Wife Southwark St Olave Surrey View Record Catharine Donoghue abt 1842 Southwk, Surrey, England Daughter Southwark St Olave Surrey View Record Daniel Donoghue abt 1836 Southwk, Surrey, England Son Southwark St Olave Surrey View Record James Donoghue abt 1838 Southwk, Surrey, England Son Southwark St Olave Surrey View Record John Donoghue abt 1806 Ireland Head Southwark St Olave Surrey View Record Joseph Donoghue abt 1834 Southwk, Surrey, England Son Southwark St Olave Surrey View Record Mary A Donoghue abt 1832 Southwk, Surrey, England Daughter Southwark St Olave Surrey View Record William Donoghue abt 1847 Southwk, Surrey, England Son Southwark St Olave Surrey

Hi Pen, Thanks for the Baglee look up, good your see your back. Regards Richard

Hello Pen Sheila Roberts kindly found this family on the 1861 Census but couldn't trace them in 1871, or 1851. I'm pretty sure that this is my family having now verified that Bermondsey neighbours Rotherhithe. On the basis that two heads are better than one, I'm appealing to you. Ann Donohoe abt 1847 Bermondsey Daughter Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Surrey David Donohoe abt 1851 Bermondsey Son Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Surrey John Donohoe abt 1807 Ireland Head Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Surrey Margaret Donohoe abt 1815 Ireland Wife Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Surrey Mike Donohoe abt 1853 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Son Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Surrey William Donohoe abt 1849 Bermondsey Son Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Surrey Kind regards Glenys x

1861 source details Source information: RG9/320 Registration district: Bermondsey Sub-registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 136 Page: 53 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 294 GSU Number: 542614 Sorry - unable to find them on the 1851 or 71. Pen x

HI PPS - I wonder if you have the time to look someone up on the '91 Census please. Eliza Biddlecombe in Yarmouth, Isle of Wight. She was born in 1829 in Yarmouth IOW. In the 81 Census she was a nurse, but that may not mean anything! She also had married daughters living with her. I'd be very grateful. Many thanks. Chris

Added by Chris Elmes on 07/07/2006 09:47:07 HI PPS - I wonder if you have the time to look someone up on the '91 Census please. Eliza Biddlecombe in Yarmouth, Isle of Wight. She was born in 1829 in Yarmouth IOW. In the 81 Census she was a nurse, but that may not mean anything! She also had married daughters living with her. I'd be very grateful. Many thanks. Chris *************************************************************************** 1881 for my ref Eliza Biddlecomb abt 1833 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Wife (Head) Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Harry Biddlecombe abt 1863 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Son Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Joseph Biddlecombe abt 1867 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Son Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Harry Logan abt 1880 Cowes, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Grandson Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Kisten Logan abt 1880 Cowes, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Grandson Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Louisa Logan abt 1852 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Daughter Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Mary A. Logan abt 1875 Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Granddaughter Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Eliza Taylor abt 1878 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Granddaughter Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Georgina Taylor abt 1858 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Daughter Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Rosina Taylor Newport, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Granddaughter Yarmouth Hampshire View Record William Taylor abt 1876 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Grandson Yarmouth Hampshire ************************************************* The one's I can spot on the 1891 are - Annie Biddlecomb abt 1862 Shabbington, Hampshire, England Wife Freshwater Hampshire * View Record Harry Biddlecomb abt 1864 Isle of Wight, Yarmouth Head Freshwater Hampshire View Record Laura Biddlecomb abt 1890 Isle of Wight, Freshwater Daughter Freshwater Hampshire View Record May Biddlecomb abt 1889 Isle of Wight, Yarmouth Daughter Freshwater Hampshire and......... George Logan abt 1882 Isle of Wight, Cowes Son Yarmouth Hampshire *View Record Henry Logan abt 1880 Isle of Wight, Cowes Son Yarmouth Hampshire View Record James Logan abt 1878 Isle of Wight, Yarmouth Son Yarmouth Hampshire View Record John W Logan abt 1845 Ireland Head Yarmouth Hampshire * View Record Louisa Logan abt 1851 Isle of Wight, Yarmouth Wife Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Thomas Logan abt 1880 Isle of Wight, Cowes Son Yarmouth Hampshire View Record William J Logan abt 1876 Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Son Yarmouth Hampshire and Carlotta Taylor abt 1813 Isle of Wight, Chillerton Mother Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Eliza Taylor abt 1878 Isle of Wight, Yarmouth Daughter Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Gorgena Taylor abt 1858 Isle of Wight, Yarmouth Wife Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Rosina Taylor abt 1881 Isle of Wight, Newport Daughter Yarmouth Hampshire View Record Rossew Taylor abt 1856 Isle of Wight, Freshwater Head Yarmouth Hampshire View Record William Taylor abt 1876 Isle of Wight, Yarmouth Son Yarmouth Hampshire Head is a coast guard boatman - sea RN No sign of Eliza or Joseph - have you looked for a death ? Pen x