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HI pen need help with a charlotte gilman ( gilham) born 1798 welford berkshire

Hi Pen, Wonder if you can help with this. Could you please check 1851 & 1861 census for Alfred Murrey (or Murray) born about 1846, Whitchurch, Shropshire. His father and mother were John and Ann. Cheers, Frank

Michael Which census are you wanting a look up in? Any other family members on a census that you can give me - souce details - it's easier to search for a group. Pen x

Francis Bibby Hi, this looks like him on the 1851 * 1861 - what do you think? Do you have any further details regarding his parents? Pen x Name: Alfred Morray Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Nursery Gender: Male Where born: Witchurch, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Sutton Ecclesiastical parish: Drayton Parva Christchurch County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Registration district: Market Drayton Sub-registration district: Moreton Say ED, institution, or vessel: 1i Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Alfred Morray 4 Witchurch, Shropshire, England Ann Roden 62 Newpoart, Shropshire, England Sarah Roden 27 Bishops Castle, Monmouthshire, Wales Thomas Roden 23 Stoke, Shropshire, England William Roden 64 Shawbury, Shropshire, England Address - Stoke Warrant Occupations of William and Thomas - Ag Labs I have not come across NURSERY before, it might mean the same as a NURSECHILD. *************************************************************************** Poor lad...his a servant in 1861 Name: Alfred Murry Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Wroxeter County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Registration district: Atcham Sub-registration district: Atcham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 77 Household Members: Ann Farmer 50 Ann Farmer 18 James Farmer 57 James Farmer 23 Joseph Farmer 9 Mary Farmer 12 Richard C Farmer 20 Thomas Farmer 16 William Farmer 5 George Gainwall 16 John Greary 20 Jane E Jones 18 Sarah Jones 17 Richard Moore 20 Alfred Murry 13 Fanny J Rhodes 21 William Walters 19 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1868; Folio: 50; Page: 16; GSU roll: 542880. Address - Dryton Occupation of Head of House - Farmer 240 acres employing 3 men and 2 boys Occupation of Alfred - Cowherd

hi could you look for louis etheridge harris b1852 lymington hamps in 1861+1871 i would like to know her siblings etc and if poss where the conn etheridge comes in cheers derek from france

Hi Pen, Thanks very much. This looks like him - my great grandfather, didnt have a great life from the start, did he? Looks like name has changed from Morray to Murray over the years, What do you think? Does NURSECHILD mean he was 'fostered' perhaps because mother too ill or died? Could you possibly check 1841 census for John & Ann Morrey (or Morray or Murrey. Thanks again Frank

Hi Penny Haven't been in touch for a while but wonder if you could find the following people on 1841 Census. William Kendrick b. 1833 St George in the East Bethnal Green, Middx (1861 Census) Charles Davis b. 1812 St George in the East, Middx (1851 Census) With hope and many Thanks Pamela

Derek Did you mean Louis? Or Louisa or Louise? This is the only one I can find on the 1871 giving that birthplace.... The image looks like Louisa but the a has a sort of swuiggle at the end like an e, might be an error by the enumerator. Name: Louisa Harris Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Lymington, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Newport Town: Newport County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Newport ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 111 Household Members: Name Age Louisa Harris 18 Hannah M Turner 70 Henry I Turner 65 Her occupation - General domestic servant Addy - 153 High Street ***************************************************** Do you have her marriage cert with a fathers name or any witness names? Pen x This is NOT going to be her parents marriage - but shows that there were Etheridges and Harris in Lymington so maybe it's her mothers maiden name .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1860 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Etheridge Ann Lymington 2b 689 Figgins Thomas Lymington 2b 689 Gauntett Emma Lymington 2b 689 Haries William Lymington 2b 689 Harris William Lymington 2b 689

Added by Looby Loo on 28/07/2006 08:51:15 Hi Penelope, Please could you look up Arthur Bennett born about 1860 Whilstead Beds from that date on thanks. Looby *************************************************************************** 1861 Name: Arthur Bennett Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: Jonathan Mother's name: Caroline Gender: Male Where born: Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Wilshamstead County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Bedford Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Arthur Bennett 1 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Benjamin Bennett 12 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Caroline Bennett 33 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Elizabeth Bennett 5 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Frederick Bennett 11 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Jonathan Bennett 33 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Sarah Bennett 8 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Address - none shown Occupation of head of house - Ag Lab **************************************************** 1871 Name: Arthur Bennett Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's name: George Mother's name: Caroline Gender: Male Where born: Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Wilshamstead Town: Wilshamstead County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Bedford Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 87 Household Members: Arthur Bennett 12 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Caroline Bennett 36 Ampthill, Bedfordshire, England Frederick Bennett 7 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England George Bennett 33 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Address - none given Occupation of head of house - Ag Lab his wife is a platter and Arthur is also an Ag Lab **on the same page as the above - this family can be found - looks like a rellie : Alfred Bennet abt 1871 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Son Wilshamstead Bedfordshire Benjamin Bennet abt 1848 Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Head Wilshamstead Bedfordshire Mary Ann Bennet abt 1844 Harefield, Middlesex, England Wife Wilshamstead Bedfordshire Walter Bennet abt 1869 Barnet, Hertfordshire, England Son Wilshamstead Bedfordshire Address - none given Occupation - Ag Lab his wife is a needle wooman (lol) Do you have the 1881 from the family search site...if so post the details. Pen x

Added by Pamela Ward on 28/07/2006 12:50:33 Hi Penny Haven't been in touch for a while but wonder if you could find the following people on 1841 Census. William Kendrick b. 1833 St George in the East Bethnal Green, Middx (1861 Census) Charles Davis b. 1812 St George in the East, Middx (1851 Census) With hope and many Thanks Pamela *************************************************************************** No luck with William Kendrick on the 1841 - Charles Davis on the 1841 - no luck as yet Is this him on the 1851 for referance? Name: Charles Davis Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1812 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: St. Georges, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Stepney Ecclesiastical parish: Limehouse St James County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Ratcliff ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age Charles Davis 39 Thomas Sowary 14

Anne 1841 possible View Record Catherine Forbes abt 1791 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 View Record Catherine Forbes abt 1829 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 View Record Donald Forbes abt 1817 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 View Record Elizabeth Forbes abt 1821 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 View Record Finlay Forbes abt 1833 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 View Record James Forbes abt 1786 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 View Record John Forbes abt 1813 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 View Record William Forbes abt 1827 Inverness, Scotland Daviot And Dunlichity Inverness 95 Name: William Forbes Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Inverness, Scotland Civil parish: Daviot And Dunlichity County: Inverness Address: Druemlea Parish Number: 95 ED: 3 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) or View Record Alexander Forbes abt 1840 Inverness, Scotland Inverness Inverness 98 View Record Amdia Forbes abt 1836 Inverness, Scotland Inverness Inverness 98 View Record Ann Forbes abt 1800 Inverness, Scotland Inverness Inverness 98 View Record Ann Forbes abt 1825 Inverness, Scotland Inverness Inverness 98 View Record Hugh Forbes abt 1788 Inverness, Scotland Inverness Inverness 98 View Record Hugh Forbes abt 1832 Inverness, Scotland Inverness Inverness 98 View Record William Forbes abt 1830 Inverness, Scotland Inverness Inverness 98 Name: William Forbes Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Inverness, Scotland Civil parish: Inverness County: Inverness Address: Leackhin Parish Number: 98 ED: 3A Page: 8 (click to see others on page) ****************************** 1841 Name: Peter Milroy Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Wigtownshire, Scotland Civil parish: Penninghame County: Wigtownshire Address: Waterside Occupation: M S Parish Number: 895 ED: 9 Page: 3 (click to see others on page) View Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Civil Parish County Parish Number View Record Mary Ann Crwe abt 1826 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Mary Ferguson abt 1830 Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Alex Foresyth abt 1776 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Janet Foresyth abt 1786 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Martha Hannah abt 1821 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record David Lawrie abt 1811 Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Jean Lawrie abt 1811 Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Gilbert Makbreck abt 1841 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Ellen McMaken abt 1781 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Ellen McMaken abt 1819 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Jean McMaken abt 1816 Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Jess McMaken abt 1821 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record John McMaken abt 1823 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Peter McMaken abt 1828 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Thomas McMaken abt 1781 Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 View Record Peter Milroy abt 1806 Wigtownshire, Scotland Penninghame Wigtownshire 895 Pen x

hi louisa etheridge harris b 1853 lymington could you look on 1861 census maybe a lead for her parents cheers derek from france

Derek - I did search 1861 and could not find anything for her. Pen x There were 2 families of Harris' from Lymington in the 1861 - but no Louisa Name: Dinah Harris Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Lymington, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Lymington County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Lymington Sub-registration district: Lymington ED, institution, or vessel: 6c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Ann Harris 26 Dinah Harris 9 Jane Harris 11 Mo William Harris 26 Catherine Moody 51 and Name: George Harris Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Son Father's name: Charles Mother's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Lymington, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Lymington County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Lymington Sub-registration district: Lymington ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 173 Household Members: Name Age Charles Harris 51 Charles Harris 17 George Harris 27 Jane Harris 51 John Harris 5 Keturah Harris 12 Robert Harris 5 Stephen Harris 20 John Paris 17 Looking at the census returns - The surname Etheridge appears a bit in Lymington, Hampshire. Have you checked free BMD for a marriage between Etheridge and Harris? Most likely the mothers maiden name. Pen x

Penelope please could you do a census look up for Michael Moran and any family they were at 16 Court Law street Liverpool in 1851 Look up for 1861 Please. june.

June If you have a birth year and place of birth - I can take a look. I can not search by address as stated in initial offer. Pen x

Penelope sorry Michael Moran dob aprox 1801 in Ireland Thanks June.

Looby Loo This looks like him in the 1891 census Name: Arthur Bennett Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Barbara H Gender: Male Where Born: Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Wilstead Ecclesiastical parish: Wilstead Town: Wilstead County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Bedford Sub registration district: Bedford and Cardington ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name age Annie M Bennett 8 Arthur Bennett 31 Barbara H Bennett 32 Clara Kate Bennett 1 Elizth E Bennett 2 Fredk Bennett 5 Lily M Bennett 6 William G Bennett 12 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1252; Folio 179; Page 16; GSU roll: 6096362. and 1881 Name: Arthur Bennett Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Barbara Maria Gender: Male Where Born: Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Oakley County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address: 29 West End Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Horsekeeper Ag Lab Registration district: Bedford Sub registration district: Bedford and Kempston ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William George 2 Arthur Bennett 21 Barbara Maria Bennett 22 Pen x ***1901 ????? Clara K has a dash next to the 11 making look a bit like 71, lol. Looks like a 2nd marriage then.... Name: Arthur Bennett Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Wilstead, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Bedford St Paul Ecclesiastical parish: Bedford St Martin Town: Bedford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Bedford Sub-registration district: Bedford and Kempston ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Albert E Bennett 3 Arthur Bennett 41 Clara K Bennett 71 Emily Bennett 42 Frederick Bennett 15 Lillie M Bennett 16 Nellie M Bennett 9 Susie E Bennett 13 Thomas H Bennett 7

Added by June Kate & Violet on 28/07/2006 20:27:46 Penelope please could you do a census look up for Michael Moran and any family they were at 16 Court Law street Liverpool in 1851 Look up for 1861 Please. june. Sorry June, I misread the posting, thought the addy was where you wanted me to find them on the 61. For my ref - 1851 Name: Michael Moran Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Liverpool Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Dale Street ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age Jane McDonnough 20 Mary McDonnough 48 Patrick McDonnough 50 Mary Moran 32 Mary Moran 14 Michael Moran 50 Michael Moran 10 ************************* Having trouble locating them as a 'family' What about this chap his a labourer by trade and a widower Name: Michael Moran Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Alice W Cloud 32 Michael Moran 60 Catharine Sinott 44 Elizabeth Sinott 14 Ellen Sinott 10 Margaret Sinott 12 Martin Sinott 8 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2675; Folio: 103; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543011.

Penelope thanks for your trouble i was trying to connect a Laurence Moran with Michael as he was dob 1851 this Michael is proving so hard to find the right one. June.

Hi June Add all the info that you know about Laurence and I will take a look if your like. Pen x